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#1 wizzbef

Posted 29 December 2018 - 09:40 AM

So after a little research I have started 16:8 this morning. I'm not going out of my way to announce to any of the household or work colleagues.

At 10am I broke fast by eating 2 slices multigrain toast with 'real' butter and promite. Coffee with a sml tspn sugar.

Considering baked beans a little later in the day and stir fry for tea.

I have a BMI of 35 and would need to lose 25 kg to return to healthy weight range. I am PCOS and on 1500mg metformin daily.

Anyone want to join me or add hints and tips?

Alternatively is there any current threads on IF?

Wizz

#2 born.a.girl

Posted 29 December 2018 - 09:48 AM

Yes, there is one, I'll have a look.


I've been inadvertently doing this for most of my adult life.  Just never ate breakfast and stayed absolutely normal weight most of my life.  It's when I've stopped doing it, that I've put on weight, apart from one time due to anti depressants, and another time due to strong steroids.



I wasn't so strict that I didn't drink tea, coffee with milk, but that was it until lunchtime.

#3 born.a.girl

Posted 29 December 2018 - 10:00 AM

Here 'tis.


http://www.essential...nt-fasting-168/

#4 Hands Up

Posted 29 December 2018 - 01:25 PM

I did the 5:2 version for a while. I lost my self control pretty quickly so it didn’t work for me. I’m now on keto and have lost 5 kilos in six weeks and still losing. It works better for me as I can have (keto friendly) snacks etc whenever I want.

#5 born.a.girl

Posted 29 December 2018 - 01:48 PM

View PostHands Up, on 29 December 2018 - 01:25 PM, said:

I did the 5:2 version for a while. I lost my self control pretty quickly so it didn’t work for me. I’m now on keto and have lost 5 kilos in six weeks and still losing. It works better for me as I can have (keto friendly) snacks etc whenever I want.


The two extremes for me are 5:2, and 16:8.

One is the worst possible way for me, the other the best.

If I fast one day, I'm way too aware of food the next day, and struggle to eat 'normally'.  The only times I've found it useful are when travelling, if we've had a couple of days with lots of meals, then a day to ourselves, I can eat little.  At home?  Hopeless.

16:8 is pretty much what I've always done - not eat breakfast.

Funny how we're all so different.

Congrats on the weight ditched.

#6 Kittichan

Posted 29 December 2018 - 02:08 PM

I'm doing 16/8. Have lost 5 kg (but possibly gained one back over Christmas). I put on a lot of weight due to a stressful few years and thought about what I used to do to maintain my previous slim weight. Realised I never used to eat breakfast, if I had eaten a decent dinner I didn't wake up hungry. I would have tea/coffee then eat when my tummy started to rumble around lunch time.

I have also greatly reduced my alcohol intake which had increased due to stress.

I tried 5/2. I just get really grumpy. Then I get obsessed with food. I find I eat better and get the right balance with 16/8. Now I'm in my forties my metabolism has slowed down and I've found my body simply doesn't need a lot of food. I prefer two decent meals to three bird-like meals.

#7 Sancti-claws

Posted 29 December 2018 - 02:12 PM

I am doing 5:2 and loving it - horses for courses - lost 3kg so far including across Christmas and only been going a few weeks.

#8 coolbreeze

Posted 29 December 2018 - 03:16 PM

I have done 16:8 most of my life. Just how I like to eat.
Never really been a breakfast or lunch person.
I have been within normal weight range all my life, however with perimenopause coming on I am about 5kg heavy than what I would like. Still normal weight range though, a little on the higher end.
My job is quite sedentary though, I am sure upping my exercise a little would certainly help.
CB

#9 BBC

Posted 29 December 2018 - 04:42 PM

I have been trying to do it since mid November. Mostly 16:8, some 18:6 and I am trying to throw in a day each week of one meal a day. I often only do 12:12 on weekends.

Also working on getting the carbs down. Low carb and IF is pretty powerful in getting control of insulin, which is what I want to do.

Fell off the wagon  Christmas  Eve, but started back today. I like the feeling of being more in control over what I eat. More time in the mornings to get ready too. I don't announce what I am doing and no one really pays much attention to what I eat or don't eat.

#10 swimmingalong

Posted 29 December 2018 - 08:45 PM

I have been omad since oct 2017, 35kgs down and 20 to go. Prediabetic for 10yrs and am no longer, dh also sleeps much better because i dont snore anymore.
Usually have a 1 or two hr window during the week and up to 4hrs on a sunday.  Altho ac has kicked in now and i just cant eat as much as i used to.
Loving the autophgagy, i usualky live on antihitstamines for hayfever but this season i havent had any pills at all and my thyroid meds have been reduced 3 times in 12 months

#11 ShelbyP

Posted 29 December 2018 - 09:10 PM

I do 16:8, keto and low cal. Eat brekky at 11am , lunch at 1.30 and dinner by 7pm. It works for me. 5:2 just encouraged binge eating and disordered obsession with food. You gotta find what works for you. I was never a breakfast person.

#12 Tinkle Splashes

Posted 29 December 2018 - 09:25 PM

We’ve been doing 16:8, skipping breakfast and eating a low calorie lunch and dinner. Also getting in a good walk a few times a week. Very successful at getting the weight off.

#13 swimmingalong

Posted 29 December 2018 - 11:06 PM

Do the eb rules allow us to name the fb groups we are in?

#14 born.a.girl

Posted 30 December 2018 - 06:56 AM

View PostShelbyP, on 29 December 2018 - 09:10 PM, said:

I do 16:8, keto and low cal. Eat brekky at 11am , lunch at 1.30 and dinner by 7pm. It works for me. 5:2 just encouraged binge eating and disordered obsession with food. You gotta find what works for you. I was never a breakfast person.

I'm glad I'm not the only one.  I'm not overweight at the moment, after ditching about 7k I put on fairly quickly after coming back from o/s in June, but I have a terrible relationship with food.

I did 16:8 with 1,000 calories, and am doing that a few days now after christmas excess added a few kg (which I was expecting, and what drove me to ditch the 7k).

I've always maintained that if you took 100 people who needed to lose weight, what works for each one would be completely different from the next.

#15 wizzbef

Posted 30 December 2018 - 08:38 AM

Thanks for the replies :) Into my second day and looking forward to my poached eggs on piece of multi grain toast tho I am not hungry.
I've started before EOY as I don't want to associate with NY resolutions.
Concerned about work tomorrow as I sit at my desk all day, eat lunch at my desk as I work (unfortunately that's the job) and not sure what things to eat. Carrot, dip, cheese? Eat larger meal when home at about 3pm?

#16 *Andi*

Posted 30 December 2018 - 09:00 AM

I found fasting really effective for losing weight. I have PCOS too and usually find it hard to shift. I did it for about 6 months last year, I started with 16:8 and after a few months added 5:2. I lost 9kg without restricting the type of food I ate in my windows, and at times doing less exercise than normal. In the first 12 weeks I lost about the same amount as when I did a strict 12-week challenge of exercise and diet.

16:8 came fairly naturally to me as I have never liked eating breakfast, even as a child (and usually made myself as 'they' said you should). And it cut out the mindless after dinner snacking. 5:2 was harder, but I got into a groove. I don't think it would have worked for me if I didn't do 16:8 first, which decreased the amount of food I needed. I only stopped because I was starting IVF, I'm planning to start again with 16:8.

#17 born.a.girl

Posted 30 December 2018 - 09:04 AM

View Postwizzbef, on 30 December 2018 - 08:38 AM, said:

Thanks for the replies :) Into my second day and looking forward to my poached eggs on piece of multi grain toast tho I am not hungry.
I've started before EOY as I don't want to associate with NY resolutions.
Concerned about work tomorrow as I sit at my desk all day, eat lunch at my desk as I work (unfortunately that's the job) and not sure what things to eat. Carrot, dip, cheese? Eat larger meal when home at about 3pm?


Do you have a microwave at work?  One of the meals I'm eating on the days when I'm also trying to reduce calories, is just a plate of veggies, with some grated cheese over the top - otherwise just plain veggies get a bit monotonous.  Lots of broccoli because of the iron.

I know the cheese pretty much doubles the calories, but cheese has its benefits and I've allowed for that. Parmesan is the best bang for buck.

#18 blimkybill

Posted 30 December 2018 - 09:30 AM

I am starting as of today. I have Type 2 diabetes and till recently has been well controlled by exercise but not any more. Sadly. If I try to eat less I feel hungry all the time, like pains in my stomach hungry. And I don't want to go LCHF because we are a mostly vegetarian household. So 16:8 seems the most doable option which might help my situation.
Any thoughts?

#19 born.a.girl

Posted 30 December 2018 - 09:55 AM

View Postblimkybill, on 30 December 2018 - 09:30 AM, said:

I am starting as of today. I have Type 2 diabetes and till recently has been well controlled by exercise but not any more. Sadly. If I try to eat less I feel hungry all the time, like pains in my stomach hungry. And I don't want to go LCHF because we are a mostly vegetarian household. So 16:8 seems the most doable option which might help my situation.
Any thoughts?


Won't you have problems with low sugar levels if you go for a while without eating?  Or is that just for people who take insulin?


How is your cholesterol?  Mine has to come down, and already has, by eating oats.  I put on weight for a start, because i added in eating a cup of oats for breakfast thinking they didn't have many calories.  Ho Ho, 'only' 400, and that's before the milk.  I swapped to making the oats (now 1/2 cup + a tbsp muesli) a very late breakfast, which is working really well.

The only reason I don't do eggs, which is another great suggestion (say spinach or mushroom omelette) is because I don't like eggs without little toast soldiers slathered in an inch of butter.

They do keep you full, too.  Unfortunate about the hunger pains.

#20 blimkybill

Posted 30 December 2018 - 10:50 AM

View Postborn.a.girl, on 30 December 2018 - 09:55 AM, said:




Won't you have problems with low sugar levels if you go for a while without eating?  Or is that just for people who take insulin?


How is your cholesterol?  Mine has to come down, and already has, by eating oats.  I put on weight for a start, because i added in eating a cup of oats for breakfast thinking they didn't have many calories.  Ho Ho, 'only' 400, and that's before the milk.  I swapped to making the oats (now 1/2 cup + a tbsp muesli) a very late breakfast, which is working really well.

The only reason I don't do eggs, which is another great suggestion (say spinach or mushroom omelette) is because I don't like eggs without little toast soldiers slathered in an inch of butter.

They do keep you full, too.  Unfortunate about the hunger pains.
Thanks for your reply. People taking insulin, and I think even metformin, have to worry about low blood sugar, but I don't.  When I was younger I would feel a bit low if I didn't eat. Now sadly even after 16 hours without food I am still above target range.
I felt fine fasting today and am now eating my brunch. I love eggs so do eat quite a few . Muesli and oats have heaps of calories,  I like a breakfast (brunch now) of chopped fresh fruit, a couple of tablespoons of muesli, and plenty of plain yogurt.  My DD is vegan so a lot of our food is rice and noodle heavy, it seems this hasn't been great for my BSL. Also my love of bread.
Cholesterol is not quite right either   overall level is ok but bad cholesterol too high and good too low.

#21 born.a.girl

Posted 30 December 2018 - 10:59 AM

My overall cholesterol went from 7pointsomething (I think 7.1), down to 5.9, with the only change being adding the oats in my diet, for three months.  That really is the only reason, otherwise that meal would be an egg on toast.

By cutting the oats down to 1/2 cup (200 cals), then adding about 1/4 cup muesli (200 cals) I actually enjoyed it.  If I'd just stuck with the oats, I think I'd have given up because it really was like eating chaff in that volume. My husband makes our own muesli and each batch is a little different so that helps with variety.

You might want to look at the calories and sugar you're getting from that fruit and compare that with the oats. Oats might keep you fuller without the sugar hit, and reduce your cholesterol.

I have a distant relative who has T2 diabetes that needs insulin control, and she had the test done that showed the results of different types of food, and something like jasmine rice was far worse than some other sorts.  I was astonished, I had no idea there were such differences.

Yeah, bread, rice, pasta ... yum, yum, yum.

#22 Lady Sybil Vimes

Posted 30 December 2018 - 11:43 AM

View Postborn.a.girl, on 30 December 2018 - 06:56 AM, said:



I'm glad I'm not the only one.  I'm not overweight at the moment, after ditching about 7k I put on fairly quickly after coming back from o/s in June, but I have a terrible relationship with food.

Me as well. I won’t ever do 5:2 again. It triggered all kinds of binge and starve cycles that I’m only starting to move past. I think anyone with a history of binge eating or any kind of disordered eating should approach it with caution.

That said, I know there are lots of people who love it and find it easy to stick with.

#23 Sancti-claws

Posted 30 December 2018 - 03:32 PM

 Lady Sybil Vimes, on 30 December 2018 - 11:43 AM, said:

Me as well. I won’t ever do 5:2 again. It triggered all kinds of binge and starve cycles that I’m only starting to move past. I think anyone with a history of binge eating or any kind of disordered eating should approach it with caution.

That said, I know there are lots of people who love it and find it easy to stick with.
That is actually one of the main things that is flagged before you start - if you have a history to not attempt it.

In the group that I am with on FB, it is pretty obvious that some members are taking the basic concepts and then just bolting into eating disorder territory.

I was very skeptical - but after reading a few books on it have started with baby steps.

The sheer existence of fruit mince pies is my own personal issue, but otherwise it works for me - I couldn't do 16:8 as low blood pressure in the past has floored me if I didn't have small amounts across time.

#24 Lady Sybil Vimes

Posted 30 December 2018 - 04:34 PM

I wouldn’t have thought that I had binge eating or disordered eating. On reflection, though, three hyperemesis pregnancies might have laid the groundwork for it.

I wish it worked better for me because it seems very lifestyle friendly but the plus side is that I now do more of a carb cycling approach which I love and has sorted my eating patterns out nicely.

#25 Mozzie1

Posted 30 December 2018 - 05:08 PM

 born.a.girl, on 30 December 2018 - 09:55 AM, said:




Won't you have problems with low sugar levels if you go for a while without eating?  Or is that just for people who take insulin?


How is your cholesterol?  Mine has to come down, and already has, by eating oats.  I put on weight for a start, because i added in eating a cup of oats for breakfast thinking they didn't have many calories.  Ho Ho, 'only' 400, and that's before the milk.  I swapped to making the oats (now 1/2 cup + a tbsp muesli) a very late breakfast, which is working really well.

The only reason I don't do eggs, which is another great suggestion (say spinach or mushroom omelette) is because I don't like eggs without little toast soldiers slathered in an inch of butter.

They do keep you full, too.  Unfortunate about the hunger pains.

Dr Jason Fung, who is a leading medical specialist on fasting, is known for his treatment of type 2 diabetes. Fasting is an effective way of lowering insulin levels, but it does need to be monitored.




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