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#76 WaitForMe

Posted 08 December 2018 - 09:35 AM

View PostLou-bags, on 07 December 2018 - 10:57 PM, said:

It’s a bit different though. You don’t rinse a contaminated dish or container under cold water without soap and then shake it off or let to drip a bit before moving it onto a plate/cutting board/ into some paper towel. You put it into hot soapy water.


And to PP questioning using soap vs just plain water on hands- washing with soap is far more effective than water alone (which is still much better than nothing). Especially if used properly, not just a cursory rub of the hands and rinse.

It wasn't really about hands, I was just comparing rinsing fruit and veg to hand washing. They say to rinse salad before eating to reduce listeria etc. But how effective is it really given it doesn't involve soap? Or is it different because the bacteria doesn't adhere to fruit and veg the same way it does to our hands?

#77 Lou-bags

Posted 08 December 2018 - 09:45 AM

View PostWaitForMe, on 08 December 2018 - 09:35 AM, said:



It wasn't really about hands, I was just comparing rinsing fruit and veg to hand washing. They say to rinse salad before eating to reduce listeria etc. But how effective is it really given it doesn't involve soap? Or is it different because the bacteria doesn't adhere to fruit and veg the same way it does to our hands?

Oh I’ve just realized I thought I was replying to two diff PP for some reason but both posts were yours- sorry.

This is a good question. My feeling is that the surfaces of fruit and veg might be less hospitable to microbe growth than our hands are, and probably exposed to less over all too (given we use our hands for many things, including toileting etc) so maybe have a lower microbe load overall?

For me rinsing fruit and veg is primarily about washing off any treatments (pesticides etc). But any washing will reduce microbe loads. When I have some time I’ll see if anyone has actually looked at this (I’m sure they would have) and come back with want I find!

#78 jgirl7

Posted 08 December 2018 - 10:10 AM

View Postseayork2002, on 07 December 2018 - 03:43 PM, said:



Oh another I have in my head is cooked rice can't stored for a long time (not sure the time frame though) as it has something that can make us sick?
Spores from the bacteria Bacillus cereus can thrive if cooked rice is left out of the fridge for too long.
Basically rice left at room temperature for 2-4 hours must be consumed immediately, over 4 hours it should be thrown away. So the rice dish that has been sitting around on the buffet table for hours shouldn't be refrigerated for consumption the next day.

#79 *Nasty*Squeekums*

Posted 08 December 2018 - 04:58 PM

View PostJenflea, on 07 December 2018 - 06:27 PM, said:

I only started rinsing my uncooked rice after I read about it on here.
And I use a microwave rice cooker, I never can get it right on the stove!

I don't often wash fruits or veggies to be honest, not dead yet!

I peel or cook most veggies, but really, how effective is a rinse under the tap at removing germs anyway?

Microwave rice cooker is awesome, set n forget, perfect rice every time. Never got it right on the stove  I dont rinse rice though
Dont rinse fruit or veg either, still alive

#80 Lou-bags

Posted 08 December 2018 - 10:31 PM

View Postjgirl7, on 08 December 2018 - 10:10 AM, said:


Spores from the bacteria Bacillus cereus can thrive if cooked rice is left out of the fridge for too long.
Basically rice left at room temperature for 2-4 hours must be consumed immediately, over 4 hours it should be thrown away. So the rice dish that has been sitting around on the buffet table for hours shouldn't be refrigerated for consumption the next day.

Yes and reheating thoroughly will do very little. Even if you kill all the bacteria, the toxins they produce remain in the food and these make you very ill.




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