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Posted 05 July 2018 - 02:42 PM
Not after advice really just experiences with your late talkers, twins in particular.
I have a DS1 (4.5) and B/G twins who are about to turn 2. I know I shouldn't compare but the twins are talking no where near as much as my older son was doing at the same age.
My girl twin is talking a little bit but my boy really only says a few words (car, sock, ball etc) and doesn't even say mummy or daddy. He is a lovely little boy who takes direction and has no hearing issues or other behavioural problems other than the usual frustrations because he cant verbalise what he wants. But even then he is so laid back nothing really upsets him (other than his sister taking his toys off him which is a whole other thread lol). They babble to each other and they will both tell stories in gibberish which of course is adorable but not practical as none of it can be understood.
I have been to the public speech therapy parent info nights and am on the waitlist for public speech therapy but at their age its mostly about the parents behaviours and encouraging them to talk. This hasn't helped a great deal as yet
Just after others experiences.
Posted 05 July 2018 - 04:22 PM
Just anecdota - but I know of 3 sets of twins who communicated to each other via their own language/gibberish for a long time before speaking in English. Best to keep your your appointments but it may be your children prefer to talk to each other right now & English is surplus to requirements!
Posted 05 July 2018 - 04:32 PM
I thought this was normal for twins?
My younger brother was a very late talker, to the extent Dad wanted to take him to a specialist (in the fifties when that would have been extraordinary, so very very late).
My mother insisted he was quite capable of having all of his needs met without talking (five older siblings) and she didn't sense a problem.
Sure enough, he eventually talked when he went to school - whole, articulate sentences.
He's still a man of few words.
Posted 05 July 2018 - 04:39 PM
I had one DS with less than 10 words at 2yrs. His language explosion started at 27 m and by 30m no worries when he came out with “mummy I think perhaps a train may be coming soon”. By the time he was 4 his teachers said “does he ever shut up”.
DS2 had 20 words at 2yrs, his language explosion showed he had hearing loss due to fluid filled ears (sounded like he was talking under water). He had problems because it was onky at 4 yrs that he returned a normal hearing test. So he has had ongoing articulation issues., mostly fixed at 10yrs.
My nephew at 2yrs we were celebrating new sounds (nit even babbling). By 3yrs he was a “mini professor” with perfect articulation.
So yes a family of natural late talkers.
Posted 05 July 2018 - 07:44 PM
Have a look at Hanen It Takes Two to Talk while you wait for speech. I thought I was encouraging speech, but there were particular strategies that made a a big difference for DS, and I still use them to try to extend his abilities. I haven’t done any of it consciously with DD and her speech has come along well. Some kids just need more help for whatever reason.
Posted 05 July 2018 - 08:00 PM
Not a twin but one of mine was a very late talker. Pretty much silent until 3. Has had not shut up since he turned 4. He did have speech therapy, though I think just maturity helped as much.
He now, at 6, has a huge vocabulary but still pronounces a few words wrongly. Hope that helps.
Posted 05 July 2018 - 08:27 PM
Not a twin but my second son is a late talker. At 2 only had a few single words, whereas DS1 was saying short sentences at 2, he was so advanced. At 3 DS2 is only just starting to say 3 words. And the other day he actually initiated a conversation and I nearly fell of my chair, because he never just comes out and talks, it’s always an effort. DS1 was taking at 3, like fully talking, it was like talking to an adult really.
DS2 Is seeing a speech therapist next week actually, just for an assessment, but I’m thinking he will be fine, he is just a late talker.
Half the problem is that DS2 gets talked over constantly by DS1, and also, being second child, he didn't get as much one on one communication as a baby as I was just flat out surviving the days with two young kids. These may apply to you too?
The other half of the problem is just him and his personality and that’s just who he is.
Posted 05 July 2018 - 08:43 PM
I should add that DD was 20m before she started talking.... came out with “DS1 give me ball back NOW”.
I would recommend hearing test. DS2 followed directions well but had moderate hearing loss. He had basically learnt to lip read and anticipate things (he is a very bright cookie - when he finally could hear his speech comprehension was in top 0.03%).
Posted 06 July 2018 - 06:53 PM
At 18months I clearly remember going to the ECHN and her telling me my girls should be speaking in sentences by now and know over 50 words 🙄
Seems one of my twins listened because within a week she started talking....and talking...and talking and we can’t shut her up! She is very clear with her speech and I am amazed by her vocabulary (they’re now 3y3m)
Her twin has been very slow talking in comparison. She’s still not very clear but really tries hard 💜 She doesn’t articulate her words as well as her sister but can speak sentences and hold conversations. You just have to really listen sometimes. She’s really come out of her shell over the past few months which I think has really helped. I had hearing checks done too just in case but all came back fine.
I’m going to give her another 6 months and reevaluate her speech and see if I see a speechie during the year before school and go from there. At the moment I just try and help her say words properly and sound them out. She thinks it’s a bit of a game so is happy to oblige 😊
Edited by tintin78, 06 July 2018 - 06:55 PM.
Posted 06 July 2018 - 09:01 PM
Unless you’ve had his hearing tested I wouldn’t discount it. My Oldest DD didn’t say real words for a long time
and I didn’t think she had hearing issues. She could hear me/follow simple instructions etc. Turns out she had glue ear and everything sounded like it was under water to her. Which is why I knew what she meant but no one else did. It also turns out she couldn’t hear all sorts of things - like cars, or fans or fridges humming. I had no idea. Once her grommets were in her speech came in almost overnight (along with a long period of being scared of all the sounds she couldn’t hear before), she got her grommets at 2.5.
My twins just turned 2 (and were born at full term), one talks SO much it makes the other look like she’s behind. But she isn’t if you look at averages she’s ahead if anything. So don’t stress just because they don’t talk as much as their brother. I’d only stress if they’re outside the “normal” range.
Posted 06 July 2018 - 09:20 PM
I had three kids that attended Speech therapy for delayed speech.
All of them were fine once they started kindy and school.
Our youngest did not even open his mouth to form any sort of words until he started to attend Kindy. He had already had two and half years of speech therapy by then. By term 2 of kindy they told me that he did not need any further assistance as he was within the normal ranges.
He is now Year 2 at school and is the best reader in the whole three year 2 classes in his unit. He has passed the reader levels and has to go to the library to get books to read in class.
We certainly never focused more on reading than any of our other children. He also is never quiet and asks the most questions about random things that all of our other 5 children put together.
I would say take them to speech therapy, it is helpful (we went public) but don't panic too much as they will talk when they are ready.
Posted 07 July 2018 - 10:45 AM
I wonder if your boy twin is more physical? I have girl twins and one is way more physical than her sister. She isn’t saying words clearly or putting two words together (almost 2 years old as well). She is very communicative though. I taught them sign language and she took to it much better than her sister. She signs or points to everything, attempts associated words, and is very expressive with her face.
Her sister is starting two word sentences, occasionally 3 word sentences but physically is no where near as communicative as her sister.
I remember with their older brother he took a bit longer to talk because of the sign language. It was all in there, he just had to make that leap from communicating with his body to communicating with his mouth.
Posted 13 August 2018 - 09:39 AM
Were your twins prem? My b/g twins were 31 weekers and DD talked at chronological age but DS3 was diagnosed with a receptive language delay and received speech therapy for around 12 months. He was never a big talker until he hit 11 and even now it can be like pulling teeth to get information from him.
Err on the side of caution and keep pushing for intervention.
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