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ASD diagnosis, is it ADHD also?


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#1 Jbeep

Posted 10 June 2017 - 02:50 PM

DD 3.5 has had a diagnosis of ASD for just over a year.

I am wondering if something else is at play also.

The issues I'm concerned about is her lack of ability to sit still for very long, she just goes from one thing to the next, and runs from one end of a room to another.

She has about 30 words but is pretty inconsistent at this stage.

It is so difficult to teach her anything as she's always on the go. Trying to get her to engage has always been difficult, but I always put that down to her having ASD of course. She is also a very strong sensory seeker and mouths absolutely everything.

But could she be having trouble with learning due to the possibility of ADHD also?

I don't know a lot about it. But we were at the clinical psych recently for treatment regarding self harming behaviour. He mentioned that she doesn't sit still, or even sit in one spot long, and it's extremely difficult to get her attention or to engage. His words were 'hyperactive' but he never mentioned ADHD. I guess she is far too young to diagnose this anyway.

Just looking for some insight from those who have child/ren on the spectrum who also have ADHD.

My son is a complete contrast to this. He has ASD also but will engage and learn and has far more speech/language ability.

DD is also being investigated for epilepsy, so I'm wondering if seizure activity is also impacting on her ability to learn/develop.

It's really hard to see my son progress, and my daughter have so many difficulties. I realise they are different and I know they will not have the same prognosis. I just wonder if I'm missing something else with my daughter.

Thanks in advance.

#2 Quirk

Posted 11 June 2017 - 07:17 PM

Most definitely possible, in fact could be seen as highly likely.
Given that 70% of children with ASD will also have another medical or psychiatric condition, then the chances are very real.
http://raisingchildr...omorbidity.html

Of my three, one has ASD plus ADHD (Inattentive), one has ASD, SPD and ADHD and the third is looking like ASD plus tourettes.

I am reading a brilliant book at the moment, would highly recommend reading it.
https://www.bookdepo...72612503&sr=1-1

#3 Jbeep

Posted 11 June 2017 - 09:34 PM

Thanks quirk.

I will definitely be doing a bit of reading on the topic.

Thanks for the link, most appreciated

#4 Mum of a miracle

Posted 11 June 2017 - 09:52 PM

It could be or could just be part of his asd.

My son is hyperactive and couldn't sit still at preschool and in kindergarten but with help from his OT and dome resources he is great now and his concentration levels are really great yes at home he is a million miles a minute but thats just him.

We've also been told in talks with his OT he is hyperactive but with talks with pediatrician and psychologist adhd isn't there for us it's his asd and just who he is he is a active 7 year old first and asd 2nd.

#5 Lokum

Posted 12 June 2017 - 08:35 AM

My ASD boy does not have ADHD but can appear hyperactive if he is over stimulated, when he is bouncing off walls and spinning. Much of the time he is quiet and concentrating.

My actual ADHD boy, (non ASD) presents quite  differently. He was suspected ADzhD at 3y8m, dx at 4y4m and medicated at 4y6m.  His life has improved a lot with meds.

#6 Mumsyto2

Posted 15 June 2017 - 05:35 PM

Mine has ASD and ADHD (hyperactive & inattentive). The ASD diagnosis came first then they had to work out if the ADHD traits were a component of the ASD or were ADHD in their own right. Turned out to be the later. ADHD Meds made a huge difference and resulted in a functional child in our case. Also had to add in meds additional later for ASD issues but the ADHD meds alone did the trick for a number of years. It did not 'fix' the issues but allowed them to engage with the world in a more positive manner, learn at school and realise academic potential.

#7 Chaotic Pogo

Posted 15 June 2017 - 11:07 PM

Just a thought, I wonder if it could be like an overtired baby can't get to sleep?  DD 3.5 gets sensory overloaded very easily and can appear manic in strange places (Drs), crowds (supermarket) or loud noise (vacuuming).  Yet she always has a dummy and rubs something soft on her face (sensory seeking) to calm down.  
I wonder if an OT assessment could be useful? She might be sensory seeking on somethings but avoidant on others and the overload causing inability to stay still.  
DD scored high for ADHD but they won't investigate  yet, too young. However she has fabulous concentration when not overstimulated and I wonder if we scored her again it would be much lower because we now provide an environment she copes with, give her decompression time etc.  

Just random late night thoughts




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