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Posted 31 January 2017 - 01:02 PM
I would go to the GP or baby health clinic for a discussion about the level of crying, in case there's a medical reason. I did just that at wit's end with DD1 & turned out she suffered from reflux, so was referred to paed for meds. Also got in priority at Tresillian to help with routine & settling. Finally by 6 months she was a completely different baby.
Posted 31 January 2017 - 01:48 PM
OP, if you're loathe to go back to that GP then you can go to another GP for a second opinion. I understand that antacids like gaviscon are over the counter at the pharmacist too. You could trial the milder OTC antacid and see if it helps before a GP check.
Posted 31 January 2017 - 02:23 PM
Just read your update. I would go back to the GP, say that you're not comfortable giving the thickened formula (no need to justify your decision) and ask about reflux meds. If the GP isn't helpful, then I would go to another GP.
Posted 31 January 2017 - 06:18 PM
I replied in your thread about the thickened formula, yep it's not going to solve it. Also if it's reflux, unfortunately it can keep going on for some time, my two refluxers were 12+ months before it started settling.
A chemist can help you with trialling over the counter medication for her, you don't have to see the gp for it. You do have to see one for a script for losec etc but you can then walk in there and tell them that x has been working and you want a script. Or see another gp.
I have seen a number of gps and while i often got the "come back in 2 weeks if it hasn't settled" the first time, they weren't hesitant to at least give the antacids a try the next time i was there. If it doesn't work it doesn't work but no harm in trying. And then you know to look elsewhere if it doesn't work.
I had severe reflux with all pregnancies that needed to be medicated. It must be excruciating for babies. It makes me stabby when doctors stuff around and hold out on giving something that can really help a baby and situation. It's not a perfect fix but a whole lot better than the alternative.
Posted 05 February 2017 - 01:12 PM
How's your little girl doing Coeur de Lion? Have you been able to take her anywhere?
Posted 06 February 2017 - 12:48 PM
This sounds a lot like the reflux! My brother had undiagnosed silent reflux for the first few months - he screamed constantly - in the car, in the pram, in the cot etc unless held upright by my mother - my mother had to sit on the lounge with him laying on her upright.
The first time medication was given by the doctor - on the way home they pulled over - they thought he had stopped breathing as he was so quiet - he was there happily watching the world go by.
I've also seen the meds work wonders on friends babies.
Your poor bub is probably in a lot of pain - the mild heartburn I have in pregnancy sucks - it would be worse for a baby lying on their back and mainly or entirely on milk.
Go and see a different GP or your GP again - and try your best to be assertive. I doubt the formula would do much.
Good luck OP - you're doing great - just keep pressing the health providers so they help you!
Posted 06 February 2017 - 07:43 PM
I have a silent reflux bub here. He over ate to try to settle the reflux. He's over 8kg at 4 months (that's about 90th percentile.) He was 3kg at 3 days old.
He wasn't chucky, but has become in the last month or so. His pain isn't when he chucks though. I think they chuck because they overeat to try to stop the pain.
From 3 weeks to 9 weeks, he screamed 12 hours a day. That horrendous scream they do when they get a needle. For hours and hours every day. He would take 2 1/2 hours to settle to sleep, all through the night too. He would only sleep in his bed at night time. To get any kind of sleep out of him in the day, we had to hold him.
We tried Zantac at 9 weeks and it gave temporary relief, but then we moved to losec.
All of a sudden my crappy sleeper was sleeping 7pm to 7am (with two feeds at 1 and 4am, but they are literally 5 mins feeds and he feeds to sleep!!!)
Then the last 2 days, he has had naps that were over 2 hours!! Previously they were 40 min cat naps, *if* we were lucky. And we could only even get him to sleep out of our arms once he started Zantac (but we had to hold him for 20 of the 40 min sleep). Now, we can put him in bed, kiss him, dummy in, walk out and he goes to sleep (after 2 mins whinging.)
He also was finishing every feed with screaming before losec.
If you aren't getting any satisfaction from your GP, perhaps join the silent reflux FB group and ask for a recommendation of a paed (or even GP) near you who are more willing to try meds. I was lucky in that my GP respects my opinion and after listening to why I thought he might have reflux, she gave me the meds. Another GP at the practice hold me he wouldn't have given me the meds.
I actually got to a point in Dec where I thought I had PND or PNA but I didn't actually feel depressed. But I just wanted to run away. After 2 nights of decent sleep I felt amazing and it turns out that 3 months of 3 hours sleep a night cause exhaustion and that's enough to make you want to run away to get sleep.
I even tried going to the residential hospital for sleep issues, and their solution was to just hold him all day. I went with meds and now my baby is so much happier.
Posted 04 March 2017 - 08:12 AM
Your original post has made me cry. Not that you needed to hear about more tears. I am feeling the exact same strain at the moment with my 4 month old non stop crier.
Can i just say that you are already an amazing mum! It is so hard to put your crying baby down so you can take a breath and stop yourself from losing it. That takes great strength. When you go back to her you are giving her a better percentage of yourself that can manage the situation.
I hope your situation has improved since original post and i know you just wanted to vent and not looking for suggestions but I can offer a couple of things that seem to help me.
White noise in the room the baby sleeps in - a radio in between stations will do.
Sing the same song to baby while taking baby to bed - seems to be a cue baby understands.
Wrap baby up.
I hope you find your baby settles soon, remember some can take longer than others. Hang in there.
Posted 04 March 2017 - 11:55 AM
My experience with a crying bub ended up being the fault of food intolerances. It took over a year to figure out. My advice is to see your gp or health nurse, and keep making follow up appointments weekly (or more often) until it's fixed. My mistake was to see a doctor, try what they said (which wouldn't work) and then not go back because of how exhausted I was.
You should also book into a mother and baby unit now. It can take ages to get in so I'd get your name down now. You can always cancel it if you don't need it when your slot comes up, but it could be really beneficial.
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