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#51 SelceLisbeth

Posted 17 May 2017 - 08:54 AM

ok, that happened. DS is now well and truly 16, his attitude proves it. The paperwork was submitted early (apparently it was meant to be sent out in November but just kind of wasnt?!?!) and yet it still hasnt been processed and may not be processed for some months, so I have no end outcome just yet.

I didnt need to provide a TFN, - but when I looked at applying for DS to have a Disability Support Payment (DSP), I know that was required. As it is I am sticking with the Carer Payment (for a person over 16), but again, it wont make any difference as my younger son also qualifies me for that payment and I wont be receiving two lots of it, so its all just a bit of red tape BS.

#52 Acidulous Osprey

Posted 21 May 2017 - 09:48 PM

TFN are just filling out a form, which I am pretty sure is online.

Dead easy and once done, it's done.

#53 Fresh Start

Posted 21 May 2017 - 10:07 PM

View PostLisbethSalander, on 17 May 2017 - 08:54 AM, said:

ok, that happened. DS is now well and truly 16, his attitude proves it. The paperwork was submitted early (apparently it was meant to be sent out in November but just kind of wasnt?!?!) and yet it still hasnt been processed and may not be processed for some months, so I have no end outcome just yet.

I didnt need to provide a TFN, - but when I looked at applying for DS to have a Disability Support Payment (DSP), I know that was required. As it is I am sticking with the Carer Payment (for a person over 16), but again, it wont make any difference as my younger son also qualifies me for that payment and I wont be receiving two lots of it, so its all just a bit of red tape BS.

Would it be worth claiming a DSP for him? If he qualifies it's a lot more than the FTB you'd be getting for him (I don't know if he'd qualify of course).

#54 SelceLisbeth

Posted 22 May 2017 - 07:53 AM

Ive gone over the paperwork and he would definitely qualify. I will apply when I can manage to face it all. The applying for a TFN requires an interview at austalia post (never knew that, but that was what google told me). Then of course a lot of reports and he has only just started with a new psych, speechie and OT so I just want a bit more of a solid basis for the reports.

I did have a question though, having downloaded a copy of the application, it mentions only the person not being able to go to school or work, but Ds is in school. I do know kid who are at school full time and receive it. I just dont know how that works with the actual form.

#55 meljbau

Posted 22 May 2017 - 09:44 AM

View PostLisbethSalander, on 22 May 2017 - 07:53 AM, said:

The applying for a TFN requires an interview at austalia post (never knew that, but that was what google told me).

School students can apply via their school. It's much easier and no interviews needed. All 3 of mine did it this way for their part time jobs. They just picked up the forms from their school office.

#56 SelceLisbeth

Posted 22 May 2017 - 12:06 PM

Thanks. Thats really helpful. :)

#57 Fresh Start

Posted 23 May 2017 - 12:00 AM

View PostLisbethSalander, on 22 May 2017 - 07:53 AM, said:

The applying for a TFN requires an interview at austalia post (never knew that, but that was what google told me).

I did have a question though, having downloaded a copy of the application, it mentions only the person not being able to go to school or work, but Ds is in school. I do know kid who are at school full time and receive it. I just dont know how that works with the actual form.

Re the TFN there is a form you can lodge with the DSP claim that Centrelink send off, because you use that form the ATO will provide it to Centrelink as well as you.

It's mentioned here:
https://www.ato.gov....or-individuals/

Re the school thing I think they can be at school - I'm sure there is someone on here whose son is at school and gets DSP.

#58 SelceLisbeth

Posted 23 May 2017 - 08:17 AM

Thank you. That is also really helpful. I have found this one really confusing.

#59 Acidulous Osprey

Posted 23 May 2017 - 07:04 PM

Both of mine were at school and in receipt of DSP.  One also did further study and I know others who are at uni.

#60 SelceLisbeth

Posted 29 May 2017 - 05:59 PM

Spoke to NDIS care co-ordinator today. Will begin DSP application process tomorrow. Wish us luck.

#61 SelceLisbeth

Posted 06 June 2017 - 11:04 AM

So I have the forms. I am filling them in. I should have letters of support/ reports from the paed, OT, psych, NDIS case manager and speechie. Im still struggling with how to word my bits and generally how to word it. Any advice?

Ive broken it down to each dx. ASD, ADHD, GA, PTSD, CVS and the incontinence. Do I need to specifically explain how each affects his ability to support himself?

#62 Beqa

Posted 19 June 2017 - 04:10 PM

Does anyone recall how long it took to process the forms?  So from when you submitted, how long was it until you were contacted?

We just has CA cut off as we went over the number of allowed overnight respite stays. That is fine, but they also cancelled DSs health care card as apparently it is attached to the carers allowance. DS has seven different medications. One we already pay $300 for as it is off label. To fill them all without a HCC could cost us a fortune.

#63 SelceLisbeth

Posted 19 June 2017 - 04:35 PM

They usually warn it takes around eight weeks or so. I have had someone process it on the spot and I have had a six week wait.

I would call and hassle. A lot. Because Im sure you have plenty of time in your day for that <lots of sarcasm>

So sorry. I hope it gets done asap.

#64 Beqa

Posted 19 June 2017 - 05:06 PM

Hit redial 1000 times. Finally didn't get engaged signal, instead got the message saying they were now closed :(

#65 meljbau

Posted 20 June 2017 - 05:07 PM

 Displayanome, on 19 June 2017 - 04:10 PM, said:

Does anyone recall how long it took to process the forms?  So from when you submitted, how long was it until you were contacted?

We just has CA cut off as we went over the number of allowed overnight respite stays. That is fine, but they also cancelled DSs health care card as apparently it is attached to the carers allowance. DS has seven different medications. One we already pay $300 for as it is off label. To fill them all without a HCC could cost us a fortune.

I realise you may have CA reinstated, but for anyone who has CA cut off for their 16 year old I want them to know that your child is now eligible for the Ex Carer Allowance Health Care Card. It will be issued every 12 months provided he/she is studying and not working full time. You just reapply every 12 months until their 24th birthday. I do the application (as I am a nominee for my son) over the phone. There is no earning limit, so he can work part time.

It seems to be the most misunderstood benefit at Centrelink. So many working there don't even seem to know it exists and they will try to steer you onto the low income HCC, but you have 8 years to use the Ex Carer Allowance Health Care Card so long as you maintain eligibility.

Edited by meljbau, 20 June 2017 - 05:10 PM.


#66 Beqa

Posted 20 June 2017 - 06:29 PM

EFP

Edited by Beqa, 05 July 2017 - 10:04 PM.


#67 SelceLisbeth

Posted 27 June 2017 - 07:02 PM

Heading in tomorrow to submit DS's application for DSP. I have two reports. One from the speech and OT as a combined report and one from the paed.

Im sure there will be many hoops to jump through now. Wish us luck.

#68 Mollycoddle

Posted 27 June 2017 - 07:41 PM

View PostLambChop, on 13 October 2016 - 06:01 PM, said:



I have a similar issue, DS does NOT want to acknowledge or discuss his disability with others.  Following on from the whole, turning 16 etc thing - is there such thing as a 'Carers Power of Attorney' type of thing where you can sort things out for the adults you care for without having to drag them everywhere ?

Guardianship? You being a Centrelink nominee won't be sufficient, he will need to give consent for his medical information (treating doctor reports etc) to be released to Centrelink. I'm going through a similar thing with a client I'm supporting at present, she's a young carer for her mother but can't get carer's payments as the nature of her mother's mental illness means mum won't consent to her information being shared. Mum herself has been on the DSP for years so Centrelink already have all the info but it would be way too simple to just go on that, wouldn't it  (actually there are likely privacy laws that prevent it for good reason but still...).

Edited by Mollycoddle, 27 June 2017 - 07:49 PM.


#69 Acidulous Osprey

Posted 28 June 2017 - 02:40 PM

DSP means a face to face assessment is done.  Even with POA or medical guardianship there is no way to avoid this.  The person applying for DSP must be present.  I was able to answer questions on behalf which was gruelling in itself.

#70 Beqa

Posted 28 June 2017 - 02:44 PM

EFP

Edited by Beqa, 05 July 2017 - 09:58 PM.


#71 SelceLisbeth

Posted 28 June 2017 - 03:25 PM

View PostAcidulous Osprey, on 28 June 2017 - 02:40 PM, said:

DSP means a face to face assessment is done.  Even with POA or medical guardianship there is no way to avoid this.  The person applying for DSP must be present.  I was able to answer questions on behalf which was gruelling in itself.

I brought DS in with me today (as he refused to go to school) to submit, thinking that if they wanted to they could ask him anything they needed to. Our city doesnt have anyone here that processes the applications, so I dont know how they do interviews.

DS will be difficult during an interview but that is kind of the point.

#72 SelceLisbeth

Posted 18 July 2017 - 08:37 AM

So, apparently as soon as the claim was lodged, DS was removed from my Family Tax Benefit. It doesnt matter that his application for the DSP is a fair way from being approved, or that there is a possibility it wont be (I know a friend whose 16yo nonverbal, severely disabled child was rejected).

Word to the wise, if you cant go some time without your usual amount of payment (which I cant. I budget carefully and rely on every part of each payment), then its a bit of scary situation to be in. Family Tax lady said there was nothing she could do. She said I MIGHT get back paid if for some reason DS's claim was rejected.

In the meantime, I'm over a hundred dollars down on my fn pay and ready to give up and rescind the application.

Currently on hold to Centrelink to see where the application is at and how long they expect it all to take.

ETA: Ive been told it will take three to four months to process. I cant live with over a hundred dollars less a fortnight while they do that.

Its just one more way that people who can afford it will do it and people who cant are disadvantaged once again.

Im not sure I have any other choice than to withdraw his application. It took everything he had in him to agree to this. He was so embarrassed at the idea and ashamed (no matter what I said). He just wants to be able to contribute to supporting himself. He cant work. He cant work because of his disabilities. He is entitled to apply. Why does our family get penalised for asserting his right?

Edited by SelceLisbeth, 18 July 2017 - 09:15 AM.


#73 Divine 37

Posted 18 July 2017 - 09:41 AM

View PostSelceLisbeth, on 18 July 2017 - 08:37 AM, said:

So, apparently as soon as the claim was lodged, DS was removed from my Family Tax Benefit. It doesnt matter that his application for the DSP is a fair way from being approved, or that there is a possibility it wont be (I know a friend whose 16yo nonverbal, severely disabled child was rejected).

Word to the wise, if you cant go some time without your usual amount of payment (which I cant. I budget carefully and rely on every part of each payment), then its a bit of scary situation to be in. Family Tax lady said there was nothing she could do. She said I MIGHT get back paid if for some reason DS's claim was rejected.

In the meantime, I'm over a hundred dollars down on my fn pay and ready to give up and rescind the application.

Currently on hold to Centrelink to see where the application is at and how long they expect it all to take.

ETA: Ive been told it will take three to four months to process. I cant live with over a hundred dollars less a fortnight while they do that.

Its just one more way that people who can afford it will do it and people who cant are disadvantaged once again.

Im not sure I have any other choice than to withdraw his application. It took everything he had in him to agree to this. He was so embarrassed at the idea and ashamed (no matter what I said). He just wants to be able to contribute to supporting himself. He cant work. He cant work because of his disabilities. He is entitled to apply. Why does our family get penalised for asserting his right?

Can you get a disability advocate involved, or even put a complaint in ?

#74 SelceLisbeth

Posted 18 July 2017 - 09:44 AM

Already have an advocate. I have made a complaint.

#75 Acidulous Osprey

Posted 18 July 2017 - 11:11 AM

Have you talked to Welfare Rights?

FTR this didn't happen to me or I would have warned you to expect it.




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