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#1 nspired

Posted 23 December 2015 - 09:35 AM

EDIT: Sorry I've just joined and others have suggested it looks a bit spammy. I'm not a dealer, or associated with it. Just a happy forum user trying to help out others looking at cars :-)

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Hey guys thanks I've been using this forum a lot as we recently had our 4th child arrived.  One of the hard things to do was find a suitable car, so I thought I would write my thoughts on the van we just bought.

The car we got was Mercedes V Class - V250 Avantgarde

My family:
  • 4 kids: 7.5, 5.5, 2 year old and 8 month old
  • I need room for double pram (Phill and Teds Vibe)
  • I will be keeping kids in car seats until they are 145cm at least (e.g. 10-12 years old)
I compared it to:
  • New model 2015 Kia Carnival Platinum
  • 2015 Honda Oddysey
  • Outgoing model of VW Multivan (T5 Trendline and Highline)
Kia Carnival 2015 model:
  • The new model Very impressive car in every way
  • I wasn't happy with the 4 star safety rating
  • I had actually ordered it but cancelled it when safety rating came out.  I was wanting a reason to get the Merc and this was it
Honda Odyssey
  • Great car
  • Not big enough
  • I couldn't fit the pram in the boot and the anchors straps from the car seats in back cut in to boot space
VW Multivan
  • Great car
  • 12 year old platform though
  • interior dated
  • Fantastic amount of room
  • Didn't feel like getting old, outgoing model on such an old platform
Mercedes V250 Avantgarde:
  • I added: Metallic paint + 360deg Camera + Digital Radio + 8 seat option (instead of 7 seats)
  • So its 2 + 3 + 3 seating configuration
  • Very Large car - lots of room!
  • SUPER IMPORTANT: 5 star safety rating, has curtain airbags and everything safety
  • Has all the warning things, Lane departure warning, blind spot assist, etc etc
  • New model has fantastic interior quality
  • Great to drive.  (we had Audi Q5 and this van is WAYY better!)
  • Both sliding doors are electric
  • Car Seats: It has 4 ISOFIX locations and 6 seat belt anchor points
  • Anchor points are built in to the back of each chair, so it doesn't impinge on accessibility to cabin
  • I put Baby behind driver. 5.5 year old in the middle in the middle row;  2 year old in back row on left and 7 year old back row behind driver
  • So that means middle row LEFT seat can fold (and flip if need be) for easy access to back row
  • I can carry 2 year old into back row, standing up and strap him in, without hurting back.
  • My 70 year old mum with arthritis can get into back row easily enough
  • Large Adults can fit in the 2 spare seats
  • I could remove the middle left seat if i wanted to
BOOT:
  • Electric tailgate
  • The glass can open independently too
  • There is a parcel shelf that can support 50kg of load.  So its like having two boots.  So the pram stays in bottom half (and only removed when needed) and most of day to day boot accessing happens through glass window only
Travelling:
  • We have gone away on holidays, so I put three kids in middle row, and just left 2 year old in back row
  • I folded down the back 2 seats on the rear right/middle and that gave me even more boot space
  • I fit all our clothes, suitcases, esky etc.
  • Fit a high chair (large one) and 2 port-a-cots
  • Toys, playmats etc
Whats missing:
  • No keyless entry (i.e. we cant keep key in the handbag and just touch the door handle to unlock it)
  • No keyless start! (not even a start button. So we have to put key in ignition to start the car lol)  (We've had 8 years of cars with keyless entry and keyless start
Overall: Really happy with it, great choice.  Drives like a car.  Parking takes a bit of getting used to.  Highly recommended!

It really feels like it is a no-compromises vehicle.  (And it is priced accordingly!)



Feel free to ask any questions that you may have.

Edited by nspired, 23 December 2015 - 10:21 AM.


#2 ~river song~

Posted 23 December 2015 - 09:46 AM

First post and it's to review a car...and one that's out of most people's budgets at nearly $90,000

Rightio then

Edited by ~river song~, 23 December 2015 - 09:47 AM.


#3 BadCat

Posted 23 December 2015 - 09:48 AM

never mind.....

Edited by BadCat, 23 December 2015 - 09:49 AM.


#4 EsmeLennox

Posted 23 December 2015 - 09:49 AM

Business a bit slow at your Mercedes dealership then?

#5 nspired

Posted 23 December 2015 - 10:08 AM

ah lol yes sorry bad move for my first post ...   I haven't joined a new chat forum in a while so I totally forgot how it looks being my first post and all.

in all seriousness though it is legit, not advertising, just trying to be helpful.. definitely not a car dealer or mercedes rep etc..

I know not many people would be buying with in that budget but I just found it annoying when looking at all these vehicles that I couldn't even find info such as what seats can be removed and where the anchors points are. Half the time the dealers don't even know..

#6 BadCat

Posted 23 December 2015 - 10:36 AM

Fair enough.  :lol:

#7 dulcinea

Posted 04 January 2016 - 02:43 PM

Just come across this and I do have a few questions - in case you want to come back and help OP.

We're probably in the market for a people mover. I have a 4yo, a 5yo and I am due with twins in Feb. We have a Landrover Discovery (which is a 7 seater) and we a very happy with it, but I can't really see how to get all our stuff and a double pram fitting in. Plus access to the back row is not ideal. I need to capsules to fit in the middle row behind the driver and I am NOT keen on having to lift a capsule into the middle seat.

Do you think I could both capsules into the middle row, one on the left one on the right and still have my other children access the back row easily? Do the doors open wide enough for them? Or would I need to take out the middle row middle seat and have them go through there?

I think I will just have to go look at it but any hints are helpful!

#8 nspired

Posted 04 January 2016 - 03:21 PM

View Postdulcinea, on 04 January 2016 - 02:43 PM, said:

We have a Landrover Discovery (which is a 7 seater) and we a very happy with it, but I can't really see how to get all our stuff and a double pram fitting in. Plus access to the back row is not ideal.

Yeah I looked at that vehicle too, and accessibility to the back row was the reason I went with the van.

View Postdulcinea, on 04 January 2016 - 02:43 PM, said:

Do you think I could both capsules into the middle row, one on the left one on the right and still have my other children access the back row easily? Do the doors open wide enough for them?

Capsules fit easily in the car.  And multiple in 1 row won't be an issue in terms of fitting it in.

There are two seating options for the middle row.  One is having 3 seats, and the other is having 2 captains chairs.

We went with the 3 seats in the middle row.  (So that we can have 8 seats if we want)

I currently have our 8 month old (capsule) behind the driver) and our 5 year old in the middle of the middle row.  And the back row has our 7 year old and 2 year old.

I actually fold the left chair in middle row over and carry the 2 year old in to the back row (there is enough space) and its easy enough on my back thank goodness)

Not sure if it would be practical with a capsule that way.

But to answer your question, I can have the seats all upright and my 7 year old can squeeze in to the back row.  So your 5 and 4 your old could do that.  (But how would you access it if you need to do their seat belts or get them out!

View Postdulcinea, on 04 January 2016 - 02:43 PM, said:

Or would I need to take out the middle row middle seat and have them go through there?
No you can't take out the middle row, middle seat (unless you get the captains chair). But the capsules would be blocking access.

The way I would probably do it is:
  • Get the 8 seat option. (3 seats in middle row)
  • Remove the left seat in the middle row.
  • Put the two capsules in the middle right, and middle middle seats.

Because there is no seat on left in the middle row, you'll be able to access the capsule and put it in easily enough. And this way you have plenty of access to the back row.

NOTE: I'm going to have our 8 month old rear-facing until at least 18months to 2 years (or longer if I can swing it!).  The new seats you can get allow them to be rear-facing up to 3 years.  So maybe keep that in mind when planning the seating configurations...

#9 meeka_inc

Posted 06 December 2018 - 06:50 AM

View Postnspired, on 23 December 2015 - 09:35 AM, said:

EDIT: Sorry I've just joined and others have suggested it looks a bit spammy. I'm not a dealer, or associated with it. Just a happy forum user trying to help out others looking at cars :-)

------
Hey guys thanks I've been using this forum a lot as we recently had our 4th child arrived.  One of the hard things to do was find a suitable car, so I thought I would write my thoughts on the van we just bought.

The car we got was Mercedes V Class - V250 Avantgarde

My family:
  • 4 kids: 7.5, 5.5, 2 year old and 8 month old
  • I need room for double pram (Phill and Teds Vibe)
  • I will be keeping kids in car seats until they are 145cm at least (e.g. 10-12 years old)
I compared it to:
  • New model 2015 Kia Carnival Platinum
  • 2015 Honda Oddysey
  • Outgoing model of VW Multivan (T5 Trendline and Highline)
Kia Carnival 2015 model:
  • The new model Very impressive car in every way
  • I wasn't happy with the 4 star safety rating
  • I had actually ordered it but cancelled it when safety rating came out.  I was wanting a reason to get the Merc and this was it
Honda Odyssey
  • Great car
  • Not big enough
  • I couldn't fit the pram in the boot and the anchors straps from the car seats in back cut in to boot space
VW Multivan
  • Great car
  • 12 year old platform though
  • interior dated
  • Fantastic amount of room
  • Didn't feel like getting old, outgoing model on such an old platform
Mercedes V250 Avantgarde:
  • I added: Metallic paint + 360deg Camera + Digital Radio + 8 seat option (instead of 7 seats)
  • So its 2 + 3 + 3 seating configuration
  • Very Large car - lots of room!
  • SUPER IMPORTANT: 5 star safety rating, has curtain airbags and everything safety
  • Has all the warning things, Lane departure warning, blind spot assist, etc etc
  • New model has fantastic interior quality
  • Great to drive.  (we had Audi Q5 and this van is WAYY better!)
  • Both sliding doors are electric
  • Car Seats: It has 4 ISOFIX locations and 6 seat belt anchor points
  • Anchor points are built in to the back of each chair, so it doesn't impinge on accessibility to cabin
  • I put Baby behind driver. 5.5 year old in the middle in the middle row;  2 year old in back row on left and 7 year old back row behind driver
  • So that means middle row LEFT seat can fold (and flip if need be) for easy access to back row
  • I can carry 2 year old into back row, standing up and strap him in, without hurting back.
  • My 70 year old mum with arthritis can get into back row easily enough
  • Large Adults can fit in the 2 spare seats
  • I could remove the middle left seat if i wanted to
BOOT:
  • Electric tailgate
  • The glass can open independently too
  • There is a parcel shelf that can support 50kg of load.  So its like having two boots.  So the pram stays in bottom half (and only removed when needed) and most of day to day boot accessing happens through glass window only
Travelling:
  • We have gone away on holidays, so I put three kids in middle row, and just left 2 year old in back row
  • I folded down the back 2 seats on the rear right/middle and that gave me even more boot space
  • I fit all our clothes, suitcases, esky etc.
  • Fit a high chair (large one) and 2 port-a-cots
  • Toys, playmats etc
Whats missing:
  • No keyless entry (i.e. we cant keep key in the handbag and just touch the door handle to unlock it)
  • No keyless start! (not even a start button. So we have to put key in ignition to start the car lol)  (We've had 8 years of cars with keyless entry and keyless start
Overall: Really happy with it, great choice.  Drives like a car.  Parking takes a bit of getting used to.  Highly recommended!

It really feels like it is a no-compromises vehicle.  (And it is priced accordingly!)



Feel free to ask any questions that you may have.


BRAVO!!! Thanks for this in-depth review! I know this post is a bit old, but wondering how you're still liking the M.V/Class 3 years later?  My parents have a M. Valente and love it!

I do Family Day Care and currently have Toyota Tarago (and looking to upgrade), and while I LOVE it for the super ease of driving and parking, with 8 bodies (3 of those being teens with school bags/ laptops & sports bags), we are super squished!

I need to be able to fit 3 car seats (Safe'n'Sound Maxi Riders) in the 3rd row; I read that the M. only has two  ISOFIX points in each row, so would be needing a 3rd anchor point.

Thanks again!

Edited by meeka_inc, 06 December 2018 - 07:13 AM.


#10 meeka_inc

Posted 06 December 2018 - 07:08 AM

And just to add, I need my seat configurations to be 2 + 3 + 3;

3rd Row: 3 x car seats - do love the Safe'n'Sounds Maxi Guard Pro, but just realised they don't come with ISOFIX - grrr!

2nd Row: 1 x car seat (fitted behind driver's seat).


#11 nspired

Posted 06 December 2018 - 05:33 PM

View Postmeeka_inc, on 06 December 2018 - 06:50 AM, said:

BRAVO!!! Thanks for this in-depth review! I know this post is a bit old, but wondering how you're still liking the M.V/Class 3 years later?  

Functionally/Practically the car is fantastic.   It works really well for us.  Our kids are now 10.5, 8, 5, 3.5.  

10.5 is in a Safe n Sound Tourer Booster Seat.
8 is in Safe n Sound Hi Liner
5 is in Safe n Sound Maxi Guard Pro
3.5 is in Safe n Sound Platinum Pro ISOFIX


Middle row is 3.5 year old; 8 year old;
Barck row is 10.5 and 5 year olds.  

(Tourer Booster seat sometimes goes between rows 2 and 3 and is easy because no anchor needed.

Quality issues/faults!
I'm dissapointed to be honest.  We've taken it in for warranty issues at least 8 times this year? (Car is just turning 3)

Their customer service is great, but its a massive inconvenience.

* Boot wasn't closing properly
* Boot wasn't opening properly
* One of autosliding doors wasn't automatically closing/opening properly (took in 2 or 3 times)
* Lane Departure warning wasn't working (warning showed on dash)
* Distronic wasn't working (warning showed on dash)
* Boot played up again
* Autosliding side door played up again
* Wiring loom under front seat had issue

And there are some other issues too.   (I'd still get the car again but I'm very dissapointed in so many issues)



View Postmeeka_inc, on 06 December 2018 - 06:50 AM, said:

with 8 bodies (3 of those being teens with school bags/ laptops & sports bags), we are super squished!

I need to be able to fit 3 car seats (Safe'n'Sound Maxi Riders) in the 3rd row; I read that the M. only has two  ISOFIX points in each row, so would be needing a 3rd anchor point.

Whilst there are only 2 ISOFIX points in each row, you can use the traditional anchor points to securely fasten the child seats to the vehicle.  ie there are 6 Australian Standards Anchor points, and 4 ISOFIX.

So I don't see why you wouldn't be able to do that.

I would consider putting 2 of the Maxi Riders in the middle row, rather than 3rd, because whilst you can get in and out of back row fairly easily to strap the younger children in, it could get annoying on a daily basis with multiple kids.

3 of those seats would fit easily side by side with no issues.


View Postmeeka_inc, on 06 December 2018 - 07:08 AM, said:

And just to add, I need my seat configurations to be 2 + 3 + 3;

3rd Row: 3 x car seats - do love the Safe'n'Sounds Maxi Guard Pro, but just realised they don't come with ISOFIX - grrr!

2nd Row: 1 x car seat (fitted behind driver's seat).


Yes that configuration will be fine.  

The split boot opening (on the V250 Avantguard model) is great because you can just open the glass section, rather than the whole boot tailgate, if you want.

Let me know if you have any other questions




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