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Job position restructure.


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#1 Mrs.Owl

Posted 27 February 2013 - 05:37 PM

How would this make you feel within the work place and on a personal level.

Example: You have been working with 100% dedication and successfully within your company for 10 years. Without no warning, a restructure has been organised and your position has been made redundant. You finish up within one month.

You have the opportunity to apply for the same position, except taking on 130% more of a work load than you currently have, and you will have more support, however alot more travelling to do.

How would you feel if a younger person who hasn't been with company for nearly as long as you, came and applied for the position also - also taking into affect, that this younger employee is the only one who has gone out of their way to support your position and taken on part of the work load, even though not required.

I don't want to state what side of the coin I am personally on at this stage.

But how would you feel in this position?

#2 FiveAus

Posted 27 February 2013 - 05:39 PM

If it's exactly the same position, in the same company, then the position isn't redundant.

#3 PatG

Posted 27 February 2013 - 05:46 PM

I would feel that I, and the younger person, both have every right to apply for whatever job is going.  If I missed out on the job and the other person got it I might feel hard done by by the company but have not negative feelings towards the other person.



#4 KT1978

Posted 27 February 2013 - 05:51 PM

I'd be taking the money and running a mile.

They should give you the "new" position in a restructure? This sounds like a dodgy way to replace you. It's not a redundancy.

#5 Awesome101

Posted 27 February 2013 - 06:07 PM

Redundant means that position no longer exists. How can you then turn around and apply for the same position???

If theres more work and travel etc but the same position then that sounds more like a promotion...

That aside - If I were the older person I would be gutted, feel under valued and replaceable in a company I stayed so loyal to for 10 years. But I would understand that the younger person has every right to also apply for the position and if they got I would be upset, but only that I didnt get the position. I wouldnt resent the younger person.

#6 Mrs.Owl

Posted 27 February 2013 - 06:26 PM

The redudant position was a local position,the new position will be a regional position. Higher position within the company. So taking out the little guy I guess is a way to put it.

#7 Just Another Cat

Posted 27 February 2013 - 06:50 PM

QUOTE (Mrs.Owl @ 27/02/2013, 07:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The redudant position was a local position,the new position will be a regional position. Higher position within the company. So taking out the little guy I guess is a way to put it.


So the new position is a higher role, hence the extra workload.

I wouldn't have a problem with it. Companies restructure all the time. Anyone has the right to apply for the new role. Whichever position you're in, you probably already have an idea of whether you are likely to get the new role or not.

Edited by BlackKitteh, 27 February 2013 - 06:52 PM.


#8 saxa

Posted 27 February 2013 - 06:51 PM

I would be a little annoyed they didn't at least explain the new role and offer it to me before making me redundant and re advertising the new role.



#9 two_ones

Posted 27 February 2013 - 08:18 PM

Has the younger person been made redundant as well?

If so, absolutely fair that they should apply.

If not, I would secretly feel annoyed because they at least still have a job but I would know deep down that that's business for you. However, would be annoyed position was not offered to me before being advertised.

Interesting topic for me as I was actually made redundant yesterday as well.

#10 Luxe

Posted 27 February 2013 - 09:06 PM

As the younger person... I would feel I have the right to go for a newly advertised role that I had some limited experience on.

As the person who has been made redundant. I'd be counting up the long service leave, plus annual leave plus redundancy pay (which I think is about 6-8 weeks) and thinking good riddance to an a-hole company that treated me that way.

#11 SylviaPlath

Posted 27 February 2013 - 09:25 PM

The new postion requires a higher workload, more travel and also has an understudy (?)/ assistant, then in my opinion it's a new position.

On principle, I would be hurt that I was not given the courtesy that this restructuring would happen, that my role would be made "redundant" without giving me a heads up. I would be upset for the lack of acknowledgement for my 100% dedication etc, however I don't believe that 10 years plus does not make a person "better" at a job. Sometimes fresh eyes is actually a good thing. Work roles should not be based on a pyramid scheme, people should not be "entitled" to a role simply because they have kept it warm. It should be based on talent, skills and individual attributes, especially if your role requires flexbilty and adaptability in an ongoing and changing environment.

As such, I believe the younger person, as well as the older person should be entitled to apply for the position and based on merit and merit alone, be assessed.




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