Jump to content

Just what is "gifted and talented"?


  • Please log in to reply
14 replies to this topic

#1 liveworkplay

Posted 25 February 2013 - 04:58 PM

I hear this term so much and have always been.confused at just where "bright" stops and "G&T" starts. DD1 is in year 3. Due to cut off dates, she is the eldest in her year group and always done we'll. But I kind of expect her too being appreciate eldest. She was doing some maths extension last year at school.with a group.of about 10 of her classmates.Today we get notification that she has been chosen for a G&T program run through our states catholic education office. It's an online based program with students from catholic schools.around the state including a couple of meet ups with local participants.

Of course we are proud of her for being chosen but it has got me thinking. Is she in the "bright" or "gifted" category? What is the difference? and should we have been doing anything else to nurture her if she is indeed gifted?
Any thoughts would be appreciated

(edited because im on my phn....)

Edited by liveworkplay, 25 February 2013 - 05:03 PM.


#2 brazen

Posted 25 February 2013 - 05:13 PM

in education it's according to the theory of Gagne for the most part

#3 BadCat

Posted 25 February 2013 - 05:13 PM

I find that schools use bright and G&T interchangeably so that they can fill their "G&T" groups.

#4 capper

Posted 25 February 2013 - 05:15 PM

Have a look here.  It really depends on who you talk to.  There are many gifted and talented program's full of bright, hard working kids.  

http://www.hoagiesgifted.org/identification.htm

For us, having a highly gifted child means he is years ahead, with little or no effort.  Poor school fit, even with a grade skip and extension and enrichment in most subjects, the ability to pick things up without you even knowing where info comes from.  Although, his motivation is often lacking, due to not being suitably engaged.

#5 Kay1

Posted 25 February 2013 - 05:15 PM

IME its used to mean "kids who need extension", not actual, tested giftedness.

#6 baddmammajamma

Posted 25 February 2013 - 05:16 PM

I just bumped a thread from last year on the very same topic - mainly because the dialogue reached 11 pages, and some of us wrote out thoughtful (or somewhat thoughtful) responses in it.

Sorry to have two threads in parallel!

http://www.essentialbaby.com.au/forums/ind...howtopic=979615

#7 barrington

Posted 25 February 2013 - 05:24 PM

I'll preface by saying that at this point, none of my children have been tested. But I believe that my DS is gifted and his younger sister, bright.  He simply picks up and understands new concepts very, very quickly.  With DD1, it usually takes a couple of times for her to 'get' things, although she is easily one of the top students in her class.

Both are in extension programs at their respective schools, and both deserve to be there.




#8 kpingitquiet

Posted 25 February 2013 - 07:00 PM

For me, it meant my mom and preschool teachers saw lots of signs (self-taught early reading, advanced language, quick grasp of new concepts, boring easily, correcting authority) and had me assessed (IQ + interviews) before starting FYOS. I was in the G&T program from Day 1. Other kids are recognized earlier or later and their parents or schools may or may not want formal testing.

#9 Hypnic Jerk

Posted 25 February 2013 - 07:06 PM

So what's the difference between being 'gifted' or being 'talented,'?

#10 sad small umbrella

Posted 25 February 2013 - 07:14 PM

Gifted is an IQ over 120.

Talented is a child who excels at music or art or drama.

Not all gifted kids are talented and not all talented kids are gifted.  Some domains such as maths or creative writing are considered talents.

#11 Fifi

Posted 25 February 2013 - 07:28 PM

Hi liveworkplay - which state are you in? Would love to look into something similar for my kids. Gifted kids in country nsw - opportunities are few and far between - this sounds great!!

#12 Canberra Chick

Posted 25 February 2013 - 07:51 PM

QUOTE (Kay1 @ 25/02/2013, 06:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
IME its used to mean "kids who need extension", not actual, tested giftedness.


Yes. DS is very bright but nobody has suggested testing him. However, he gets extension activities at school and was invited by his school to attend extension clubs run by the local G&T group. Is he gifted? No idea. So long as he is enjoying life, including school and not feeling bored we are happy.

#13 Foogle

Posted 25 February 2013 - 08:20 PM

True G & T individuals have both static or crystallised intelligence combined with fluid intelligence happening.

Static intelligence is the ability to listen closely, recall, verbalise and communicate clearly information.  A lot of people have this ability (and I think many parents recognise this in their children)

Fluid intelligence is the ability to take that information and apply it in a deductive manner and come up with new scenarios, new reasonings, new ways of seeing the old so to speak.  Not many people have this ability.

The two combined (coupled with spatial intelligence - the whole visual thing going on which is a different again but added to the mix just makes it all the more powerful) - when all of that is combined then you have what I think is a true intelligently gifted person.

I honestly don't think that many people have the whole gambit going on - the static combined with the fluid combined with the spatial.

The more important thing however is to acknowledge that there are multiple intelligences at play, set aside our traditional focus on formuliac stuff and encourage more reasoning and inferential abilities.





#14 LynnyP

Posted 25 February 2013 - 08:27 PM

What do you think the advantages are of a gifted and talented stream?  My daughter goes to a small school, one class of boys and one of girls just about all through primary.  Specialist teachers for things like music, art, languages, IT, science etc.  There are around 16 in each class.  They practice differentiated learning within the class.  Yet I have had a couple of people say they prefer the larger primary schools that have G&T "streams".  In the secondary school they stream the classes (different stream for English than Maths say).  To me, in primary, it seems to be better to stay with your social group but there are lots of different opinions.

#15 liveworkplay

Posted 25 February 2013 - 08:33 PM

Fifi, I'm in Tas.

CC, that's basically how we feel. As long as she is happy, learning new stuff and not bored, we are happy. Being my eldest and not having any friends with older children, I do find that I do not know really what "normal" is. In speaking (socially) with one of her old teachers (not at the school now), she was saying how she is pretty good at gauging the spectrum of "normal" now due to seeing/teaching so many kids. She taught my DD in grade 1 and thinks that her art (which she has always loved and is good at) was on the exceptional end and certainly not normal. She is also a natural at maths and quite sporty as well.  

We almost had her assessed for early entry for school as she missed the cut off by less then 2 weeks but in the end let it be. Luckily our fear of her being bored never eventuated.

QUOTE
What do you think the advantages are of a gifted and talented stream?


LynnyP, our school works like yours (but with larger class sizes but "team teaching" across the grade. The only advantage of the extension groups and this program that I can see, is it a bit of fun outside of the curriculum that stretches them a bit. It's not about streaming or accelerated learning, more a fun addition to stretch the mind with like minded kids.


]

Edited by liveworkplay, 25 February 2013 - 08:36 PM.





1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users

 

Why Tracey Spicer has given up make-up

"After 30 years on television, I had become what I despised: a painted doll who spent an hour a day and close to $200 a week putting on a mask."

Empowering bikini photo of 46-year-old mum goes viral

When a group of teenagers made rude remarks about her body as she walked past them in a bikini at the local beach, Julie Cross refused to cover up.

Devastated widow discovers she's pregnant the day before husband's funeral

They had been trying to conceive a baby for seven years. Tragically Kristy Kirchner found out she was pregnant the day before her husband Royce's funeral.

Gabriella Goat sues Peppa Pig

Every toddler's favourite television pig is being sued by an Italian woman who shares a name with a Peppa Pig character.

Meet the Mpregs, the male pregnancy enthusiasts

"Men can't have babies - that's something only women can do! But our community is full of like-minded people who wish otherwise."

Your new motherhood survival kit

Forget about the bright, pretty baby things - while you're in survival mode, all you'll need are the essentials.

More than 100,000 cars recalled globally after death of pregnant woman

The announcement of a mass recall comes as Malaysian police investigate the death of pregnant woman in July.

Win a family pass to Disney Live!

We have 4 family passes to give away to see Disney Live! presents Three Classic Fairy Tales, touring Australia this December/January.

I had a 'good baby' but still suffered from postnatal depression

I had a much wanted precious baby girl, a 'good baby' who slept well, self settled and was mostly content. It just seemed implausible to think I could succumb to depression.

There's no need to eclipse a babymoon

As long as pregnant women do their research, travelling during pregnancy can be done safely.

Mum and daughter have babies on same day

"It's not really something you ever want or think could happen. To have my mum going through it with me is probably the most special, amazing thing ever.”

Our baby's reflux caused the longest endurance test of our lives

I'm glad she wasn't my first child, or I would have thought that this was normal.

Win one of 5 Little Tikes Cozy Coupe Sport

Australia?s No 1 selling car is now available in a Sports model and we have 5 to give away to some lucky Essential Baby families.

The podcast that reminds mums they are not alone

A mum's complicated, gruelling labour gave birth to two lovely beings: her daughter and her delightful podcast, The Longest Shortest Time.

Is it too late to change my midwife?

My wife is nine months pregnant and we are planning a home birth - but we've had late problems with our midwife team.

The Very Hungover Caterpillar: a parody many can relate to

A new book released this month will be sure to have parents nodding and giggling in recognition the world over.

Babywearers unite against misinformation

Everyone has heard of people power, but what about passionate babywearing power?

Reliving the birth experience

When people ask about how my labour went, I usually respond: "Good, I think? Four hours long, and yeah it hurt, but I dunno, it's labour, it's giving birth, it's painful... but I guess it was good? As good as good gets?"

Literary baby name inspiration

From Harry Potter to Shakespeare and everything in between, we've scoured the library shelves for literary baby name inspiration.

Preparing your child to attend a sibling's birth

Thinking about having your kids at the birth of your baby? Here are some things to consider.

Counselling helps mum deal with triplets' early birth

When Kimberlee King's waters broke nine weeks before her triplets were due, she went into autopilot as she packed her hospital bag.

The women balancing babies with new businesses

Motherhood teaches us that we can be more tolerant, patient, and loving than we ever thought possible - and can also show us that we're innovative, creative and entrepreneurial, too.

It's true, kids grow up overnight

A dad ponders how his toddler daughter can change so much in just one 24 hour period.

Father sings to dying son days after losing wife

A heartbreaking video shows a new dad singing 'Blackbird' to his dying son just days after losing his wife.

Download now: Essential Kids Activity Finder app

Got bored kids? Quickly find the best activities for kids wherever you are in Australia with the Essential Kids app.

 
Advertisement
 
Advertisement
 
 
 

What's hot on EB

Win one of 5 Little Tikes Cozy Coupe Sport

Australia?s No 1 selling car is now available in a Sports model and we have 5 to give away to some lucky Essential Baby families.

Join PADDINGTON on the red carpet!

To celebrate the release of PADDINGTON, we are giving five lucky winners the chance to win a family pass to the exclusive Australian Premiere in Sydney on December 7!

Knowing you are one of the lucky ones

I am secure, confident and strong, but the responsibility of protecting my children can almost bring me undone.

Why I am so emotional now I have kids?

There are so many ways in which parenthood changes us as women, but one of the most noticeable, for me, has been the changing state of my emotions.

Baby survives despite sharing womb with 'foreign body'

Baby Maia was conceived against the odds, only to find she was sharing a womb with an ominous "foreign body".

Video: Baby shows dog how to jump - or vice versa

They say dog is man's best friend, but this playful pooch seems to have chosen a jumping baby as her number one buddy.

10 ways to soothe a crying baby

New paernts can get frustrated when their newborn gets fussy and can't settle down. When you're feeling overwhelmed, try some of these simple tips to help soothe your baby.

20 baby names that are becoming more popular every year

The data-lovers at nameberry.com have been at it again – this time, they’ve discovered the names that are continually rising up the ranks, ready to take out some top spots in the next few years.

10 great meals to make for new parents

Ideally, you want to give food that isn’t expensive to make, isn't too difficult to create, and freezes well; stews, bakes, soups and pasta sauces are perfect.

'It's not you, it's me': Boston bombing survivor mum to have leg amputated

Rebekah DiMartino is going through a break-up. She even wrote a farewell love letter. But it's not to her husband.

What it's like to go through early menopause

In a cruel twist, Carla had been breastfeeding and perimenopausal at the same time. But she's far from the only one to go through menopause early.

Restaurant served alcohol to two-year-old

Busy restaurants can be forgiven for getting food and drink orders mixed up from time to time, but not when the confusion leads to a two-year-old being served an alcoholic cocktail instead of the child-friendly beverage they ordered.

Julia Morris tells of miscarriage on a flight

Julia Morris has spoken about the devastation of suffering a miscarriage while on an international flight.

Woman's survival after birth 'a story of two miracles'

A US mother is home and tending to her new baby less than a month after surviving without a pulse for 45 minutes.

Eating ice may give mental boost to the iron deficient: study

A new study proposes that, like a strong cup of coffee, ice may give those with insufficient iron a much-needed mental boost.

Tiny lives in caring hands: Thank U NICU Day

Each year in Australia, over 40,000 newborns need the help of a special care nursery or neonatal intensive care unit. One day a year, the staff are honoured by the parents they help through those dark days.

I paid $50,000 to have a girl

This time my husband and I hadn't taken any chances. We had paid $50,000 and travelled 13,000 kilometres to make sure the baby growing inside me was female.

Weird pregnancy products

Some pregnancy products come to market and are just awesome. Others just leave you scratching your head.

Dear firstborn, I'm sorry

Being a first-time mum is tough for so many reasons – particularly because you really have no idea what you're doing.

A trace of sesame could kill my son

Helen Richardson son's had two anaphylactic reactions in a month. It's traumatic for everyone.

When you know before the test says yes

It wasn't a pregnancy test or missed period that told me I was pregnant with my second baby; it was too early for those things. A doner kebab told me I was going to be a mum again.

What not to do when your partner is in labour

Robbie Williams stole the show during his wife Ayda's labour, pretty much demonstrating everything on the "what not to do when your partner is in labour" list.

Best maternity swimwear and beach cover-ups

Thinking about a tropical babymoon but have nothing to wear? Here are some great swimwear and beach cover-up options for mums-to-be.

Dad breastfeeds his babies

Trevor Macdonald has now been pregnant twice, and is successfully breastfeeding his newest family member.

 

How many weeks til Christmas?

On your To-Do list

Get the "Santa" shopping done without the kids in tow.

 
Advertisement
 
 
Essential Baby and Essential Kids is the place to find parenting information and parenting support relating to conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids, maternity, family budgeting, family travel, nutrition and wellbeing, family entertainment, kids entertainment, tips for the family home, child-friendly recipes and parenting. Try our pregnancy due date calculator to determine your due date, or our ovulation calculator to predict ovulation and your fertile period. Our pregnancy week by week guide shows your baby's stages of development. Access our very active mum's discussion groups in the Essential Baby forums or the Essential Kids forums to talk to mums about conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids and parenting lifestyle. Essential Baby also offers a baby names database of more than 22,000 baby names, popular baby names, boys' names, girls' names and baby names advice in our baby names forum. Essential Kids features a range of free printable worksheets for kids from preschool years through to primary school years. For the latest baby clothes, maternity clothes, maternity accessories, toddler products, kids toys and kids clothing, breastfeeding and other parenting resources, check out Essential Baby and Essential Kids.