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#1 lucy12345

Posted 25 February 2013 - 03:41 PM

Just after some advice as I dont know what to do, a month ago a friend was at the pound and saw 2 gorgeous little maltese type dogs, one white a younger and an older black one. they were due to be put down at 12 the following day. They took the young pup and sent us an sms about the other knowing we would love it.The local ranger bought it over to us and said if we wanted to look after it for  2 days and see how it goes we could keep it if not return it to be pts. She is a gorgeous dog and my son fell in love with her so obviously she fitted in well and we said we would be happy to have her. We have registered her and had her vet checked (all fine).
Now a month later my mum has seen a sign put up (date stamped today) with a picture of her. I feel as though I should call them but the dog had been in the pound 1 month and a month has passed since we got her. She was advertised in local papers and the shire site. The ranger said she was in bad health when they took her in, very underweight due to malnutrition. She was riddled in fleas and had worms etc.
I am in 2 minds about what to do. She has a loving home here, great diet, walked 3 times a day, brushed and bathed regularly and very loyal to us, for example she jumped the back fence a few times (now fixed by adding height to it) but as soon as we notice she is sitting nicey at the front door, ready to be let in original.gif.
So in all honesty what would you do in this situation?

#2 niggles

Posted 25 February 2013 - 03:49 PM

I'd say to myself 'It's just a photo. It might not be the same dog." Actually I don't know what I'd do. The dog being malnourished could be because it got lost, not because it was neglected. It's a hard position to be in but the dog does seem to be yours now and wouldn't be easy to let go.

#3 laridae

Posted 25 February 2013 - 03:51 PM

Are your sure its the same dog?  Might just look similar - and they are only just looking now?

I'd keep the dog....

#4 Iliketoflounce

Posted 25 February 2013 - 03:52 PM

QUOTE (lucy12345 @ 25/02/2013, 03:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Now a month later my mum has seen a sign put up (date stamped today) with a picture of her. I feel as though I should call them but the dog had been in the pound 1 month and a month has passed since we got her. She was advertised in local papers and the shire site. The ranger said she was in bad health when they took her in, very underweight due to malnutrition. She was riddled in fleas and had worms etc.
So in all honesty what would you do in this situation?

why would the owner be putting signs up now if the dog was in the pound for 1 month and with you for 1 month that would mean she has been missing 2 months (maybe more if she was underweight). Are you sure it is the same dog? TBH I wouldn't know maybe call the old owner and ask what her name is and see if she responds

#5 againagain

Posted 25 February 2013 - 03:53 PM

Ohhh that is a tough one. I would be worried the owners had been away or something and the person who was meant to be looking after the dog had been crap at it.

Was it microchipped or desexed or anything? Are there any tell-tale marks on the dog that you might be able to find out if it is in fact the dog in the picture?

It's very true that it might not be the same one. But I personally would probably feel bad if I didn't put effort into finding out.

Good luck deciding!

#6 tamietamara

Posted 25 February 2013 - 03:54 PM

I would personally keep her. A month in the pound is a long time for her owner to not find her.

#7 DEVOCEAN

Posted 25 February 2013 - 03:54 PM

Normally I would say it is right to return the dog to its home. However you have had it a month and it was in the pound for a month before that. You saved its life, so I say keep it.

#8 TopsyTurvy

Posted 25 February 2013 - 03:55 PM

I would ring from a blocked telephone number and find out the reason why it's taken over a month for them to post that their dog is missing.  If its a genuine reason (such as they were away and the dog escaped from a pet sitter etc) then I would also ask to contact their vet to find out if they give adequate care normally.  If they pass both tests then the right thing is to return their pet to them.  If not then I would keep the dog.

#9 noi'mnot

Posted 25 February 2013 - 03:57 PM

I doubt it's the same dog.

Could you talk to the pound from which you adopted the dog? They might have some suggestions for you. Otherwise, I'd call the people from the poster and ask them when the dog went missing, and go from there.

#10 Fluster

Posted 25 February 2013 - 03:58 PM

My cat went missing while she was being cat-sat as I was overseas on holidays. It wasn't until I returned home and went to pick her up that I was advised she had escaped.  She also has a rare skin condition, so I'm sure she didn't look fabulous.  So, the fact that the posters appeared a month later and she dog didn't look great don't strike me as being out of the realm of possibility.  That said, my cat was microchipped... I think most responsible owners do this nowadays.

I'd do as the PP's suggested and call the old owner.  


#11 tibs

Posted 25 February 2013 - 04:00 PM

Well all pound dogs had an owner, and the system is set up to help them get their animals back - when found they are checked for microchips/id tags etc, then they are held for a certain period before they are allowed to be adopted or put down to give the owner enough time to realise they are missing and make endeavours to locate them.  If that fails (as it did in your dogs case) the dog is no longer considered to be owned by their original owner that is why they can be adopted or put down.  So you have done everything right, so in your case I would keep the dog.  As opposed to my brother who one day came home from school with a kitten.  Said he had found it wandering lost.  A couple of days later we saw posters up for it as a lost kitten.  Well it turns out my brother had 'found' the kitten by picking it up over the fence from its owner's house  ohmy.gif  Obviously a very different situation from yours and the kitten was returned by my parents without hesitation.

#12 Feral_Pooks

Posted 25 February 2013 - 04:03 PM

I would call and ask a few questions, and be vague about your sister finding a dog until I sussed them out. I doubt it's the same dog. At least it would put your mind at ease.

If you hadn't rescued the dog, it would have been PTS. It's your dog.

Eta. As PP above said, the owner forfeited their rights as owners at the point the pound was able to adopt it out or PTS. It's YOUR dog.

Edited by Pooks_fembo, 25 February 2013 - 04:05 PM.


#13 KatakaGeoGirl

Posted 25 February 2013 - 04:04 PM

Our cat went missing for a year. I was SO glad to have her back and she's still with us now (she's an old cat). Someone had taken her in and fed her (overfed her mind you!) and eventually she must have escaped again and ended up at the pound. I was so glad to have her back.

Tell the owners. You don't forget a lost pet... you wonder every single day what happened to them. Put the owners out of their misery. I'd probably say to them to pay the costs you've endured if they want puppy back; but I think just knowing that they are okay makes a difference.

#14 DEVOCEAN

Posted 25 February 2013 - 04:06 PM

It is not theft. It was actually given to them by the pound, to see if they liked it. So no, they have not stolen it. They have rescued it.
If the OP had not taken this dog in, it would be dead.

#15 KeisarynjaDoe2010

Posted 25 February 2013 - 04:07 PM

QUOTE (TopsyTurvy @ 25/02/2013, 04:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I would ring from a blocked telephone number and find out the reason why it's taken over a month for them to post that their dog is missing.  If its a genuine reason (such as they were away and the dog escaped from a pet sitter etc) then I would also ask to contact their vet to find out if they give adequate care normally.  If they pass both tests then the right thing is to return their pet to them.  If not then I would keep the dog.


I'd have to do that. I couldn't leave it with no contact, I'd be wracked with guilt. I know it could be painful if it IS their dog but imagine their pain too. sad.gif

#16 DEVOCEAN

Posted 25 February 2013 - 04:08 PM

QUOTE (Katakacpk @ 25/02/2013, 05:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Tell the owners. You don't forget a lost pet... you wonder every single day what happened to them.

Only if you are a responsible pet owner.
Some people just don't give a sh*t.

#17 againagain

Posted 25 February 2013 - 04:13 PM

QUOTE
Only if you are a responsible pet owner.
Some people just don't give a sh*t.


Owners that do not give a sh*t do not put up flyers looking for their lost pets. They just buy another one.

#18 countrychic29

Posted 25 February 2013 - 04:14 PM

Hard one OP, I think i would call and be quite anon and say you saw a dog like that at the pound...the pound can then give them the news etc.

#19 Tammy Swanson

Posted 25 February 2013 - 04:15 PM

QUOTE (Madame Protart @ 25/02/2013, 03:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I can't believe people are advocating not contacting these people.  It's theft if not immoral.  They could have a perfectly legitimate reason for not looking earlier, or perhaps they were but in the wrong area.  Either way, it's not up to you to decide.

It's probably not even the same dog.  Ring them and ask how long the dog has been missing.


It is not theft. All pound dogs have previous owners and if it wasn't for the OP that dog would have been put to sleep the following day so there would have been no more dog for anyone.

Having said that, the right thing to do is contact the owners of missing dog. I know your son will be heartbroken if it is in fact theirs, but think it will teach him a valuable lesson of returning things that do not belong to them. As a PP said, when you have a pet go missing you always wonder what happened. if they were neglectful as you suggest then you will have no guilt in not returning the pet to them.Good luck

#20 lucy12345

Posted 25 February 2013 - 04:16 PM

To answer a few questions, the name on the poster said cocoa, we called her chole and use "clo-clo" to call her, so she does come to the name. sad.gif Also it is a very small town and the ranger did say she had been in a few times previously due to "climbing" fences.) And to add to it we relocated a week ago 350kms away, that is why my mum saw the sign in the local shop not me. I am maybe thinking of an anon call just to let them know she has a new home and is well looked after.
I do wonder as the ranger said she had been in a few times before if they didnt have the money to "bail" her out so to speak, but also then that would explain why she was always skinny flea and worm infested when found. I would not take on a dog I could not afford to keep well and comfortable. But then again maybe it was a pensioner who couldn't afford it? But still if they cant look after her properly I would feel bad returning her to them, and 350kms is a bit excessive to take her for a visit.
So do you think my idea of an anon call to let them know she is in a well loved house a good idea? She is just so happy,spoilt (fresh bones good food lots of walks and swims at the beach) and loyal here sad.gif
So torn

#21 Ninja Lemur

Posted 25 February 2013 - 04:19 PM

From what you ahve written the pound knew who her owner was and they chose to give the dog to you.






#22 niggles

Posted 25 February 2013 - 04:20 PM

Contact the pound and ask their advice. Then perhaps contact the owner and let them know you saw a dog like that at the pound. Ask the pound to vet the owners. The dog is actually yours now so if they aren't able to care for it in the rangers opinion I'd ask the ranger to let them know the dog has gone to a good home.

#23 DEVOCEAN

Posted 25 February 2013 - 04:21 PM

Just ring them anonymously. Ask them when their dog was lost.
If they couldn't fix the problem to stop the dog escaping and that is what happened, they do not deserve to have her back.
Maybe they couldn't afford to bail her out, and they are now trying to get her back at your expense.

#24 Feral*Spikey*

Posted 25 February 2013 - 04:29 PM

QUOTE (niggles @ 25/02/2013, 04:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Contact the pound and ask their advice. Then perhaps contact the owner and let them know you saw a dog like that at the pound. Ask the pound to vet the owners. The dog is actually yours now so if they aren't able to care for it in the rangers opinion I'd ask the ranger to let them know the dog has gone to a good home.


This.

Was the dog microchipped? If it was, then it was possible to ID the owners. From your further information, it sounds like the Council may have been aware of who the original owners were, and that the owners did not, or were not, able to collect it before it was due for euthanasia.

Legally, the dog is yours. If you're uncomfortable with the situation and are considering passing the dog on to another owner that may or may not be a past owner, I suggest using the Council to negotiate any change of circumstances, including a reimbursement for any costs you've borne.

#25 @m@nd@

Posted 25 February 2013 - 04:29 PM

QUOTE (lucy12345 @ 25/02/2013, 04:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
To answer a few questions, the name on the poster said cocoa, we called her chole and use "clo-clo" to call her, so she does come to the name. sad.gif Also it is a very small town and the ranger did say she had been in a few times previously due to "climbing" fences.) And to add to it we relocated a week ago 350kms away, that is why my mum saw the sign in the local shop not me. I am maybe thinking of an anon call just to let them know she has a new home and is well looked after.
I do wonder as the ranger said she had been in a few times before if they didnt have the money to "bail" her out so to speak, but also then that would explain why she was always skinny flea and worm infested when found. I would not take on a dog I could not afford to keep well and comfortable. But then again maybe it was a pensioner who couldn't afford it? But still if they cant look after her properly I would feel bad returning her to them, and 350kms is a bit excessive to take her for a visit.
So do you think my idea of an anon call to let them know she is in a well loved house a good idea? She is just so happy,spoilt (fresh bones good food lots of walks and swims at the beach) and loyal here sad.gif
So torn


So to clarify... you are saying that the pound adopted out the dog
With full knowledge of the dogs owner??




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