I used to believe it was owners at fault....
Pet section - Warning- Graphic
, Feb 25 2013 12:28 PM
100 replies to this topic
Posted 25 February 2013 - 12:28 PM
Warning, the content of this post contains graphic descriptions of an animal's death - Chelli
I have always been a firm believer that it is not the breed of dog but moreso the way they have been bought up. I have never jumped on bandwagons about viscious dogs and didn't think that I would ever change but last Thursday, I arrived home with my children to what resembled a scene from a horror movie.
We live on acreage with plenty of animals and had 2 five year old pure English staffies (Brother and sister both desexed), a bull mastiff x sharpei (absolute sook of a puppy) and my sons English American Staffy and have never really had any issues until last week.
My DH and I had our 3 girls in the car and pulled into our property to find that a Brahman steer was missing from his paddock. Upon further investigation, our entertainment area was flattened, furniture broken, pot plants smashed, the TV hanging off the bar but as we got even closer we realised that the walls were sprayed with blood. Our poor bull was laying in a garden, broken leg, his ears missing, a mutilated nose and one of his horns gone as well. My girls were screaming, my 12 year old arrived home 5 minutes later and he too was devastated. It was pure hell.
We had a horse vet arrive about 15 minutes later and she gave us a 50/50 chance of him pulling through but the outcome would not be favorable so he was put down straight away. I won't ever forget the look in his beautiful eyes
Our dogs on the other hand were covered in blood, they had been locked in our shed by us and we made the decision to put them down the following day for fear of our children's safety as well as other animals in the rural area. It has taken us days to clean blood off three outside walls of our house, our property has a vile smile of old blood even though we have had rain.
Our dogs were part of our family, they were fed twice a day as well as getting scraps etc, they got bones, were always healthy and given medical attention if they required it ($600 had been spent the previous week on surgery for one of the staffies) They were given so much attention and were allowed inside at times and yet they turned, without warning they turned and they tortured a 300kg beast for hours on end and I am devastated.
So devastated that they could do that and I did not even say goodbye as my DH drove them to the vet on Friday morning.
So it happens, I never thought it would happen to us but it did and there are certain breeds now that I will never trust again.
Edited by Chelli, 27 February 2013 - 06:20 AM.
Place graphic content warning
Posted 25 February 2013 - 12:33 PM
Im so sorry this has happened & have no words. I really feel for your familyx
Posted 25 February 2013 - 12:34 PM
I'm so sorry
Posted 25 February 2013 - 12:35 PM
So very, very sorry this has happened to you.
I worry as my rescue spaniel can be quite agro at times, but we watch him very closely at all times (we only got him in December).
Posted 25 February 2013 - 12:37 PM
I am sorry your heart is broken
but I think you absolutely did the right thing in getting the dogs put down.
I wish you and your family all the best and hope that time heals your hearts.
Posted 25 February 2013 - 12:37 PM
That is just a horrible tragic story OP. hugs to you and your family. I hope your kids are okay, they must be traumatised.
Posted 25 February 2013 - 12:39 PM
Oh gosh my heart broke for you as I was reading that
I'm terribly sorry you and your family have gone through this, and in particular that your children saw so much. I've also seen similar (not a bull, but German Shepherds attacking 2 staffys) and it's just awful, something I'll never forget. I hope you're ok
Posted 25 February 2013 - 12:39 PM
OMG - that would have been nightmarish.
I hope your kids will not have long term effects
Not meaning to be a know it all - but I always have believed that at the end of the day no one can guarantee any
animals (Or humans) behaviour.
Posted 25 February 2013 - 12:39 PM
I am very sorry...sadly we had experiences on our property with non vicious dogs that were always treated very well, its more about the pack mentality and instinct.....I hope you and your family can replace the bad memory with some happier ones
Posted 25 February 2013 - 12:41 PM
Oh my, what a horrible story.
I feel for all of you and the steer. What horrible thing for him to go through and for your children to witness.
You made absolutely the right decision about the dogs though.
Posted 25 February 2013 - 12:43 PM
Do you know the breeder of these dogs?
If you do, I would be notifying them ASAP.
They shouldn't be breeding from the parents of those dogs.
So you put down all four dogs?
Unfortunately some dogs (mine included, I own 3 Basenjis) cannot be trusted around livestock, no matter what!
Edited by annodam, 25 February 2013 - 01:05 PM.
Posted 25 February 2013 - 12:51 PM
Thank you everyone for your kind words. Two of my girls are ok, one of them is still upset about it all and my 12 year old misses his puppy.
Unfortunately I don't know the breeders so it is not possible to contact them. I do know we did the right thing but it still pains me. I go through stages of feeling angry with them and then being sad as I didn't say goodbye!
Posted 25 February 2013 - 12:54 PM
That's awful, I'm so sorry
Witnessing a dog fight when I was young was one of the most frightening experiences I've ever had. I'm so sorry you and your children had to witness that.
Posted 25 February 2013 - 01:37 PM
I am so glad that noone was home to witness/hear it, my poor inside cat would not come out from behind the TV unit all night
Thankfully, even though I do not believe in replacing animals immediately, I was able to bring some smiles back to the children's faces by purchasing 2 adorable 10 week old purebred Black Labradors that afternoon.
Posted 25 February 2013 - 01:48 PM
Oh no, the poor steer. I hope he didn't suffer to terribly. Your post has made me sick to my stomach, I couldn't imagine coming home to that horrifying scene.
Posted 25 February 2013 - 01:50 PM
That is so utterly horrific on so many levels.
I am sorry for your whole families losses and hope the labs help ease a bit of your pain.
Posted 25 February 2013 - 01:51 PM
What an awful experience for the poor steer.
So sorry your kids had to witness that.
Posted 25 February 2013 - 02:02 PM
I am so sorry
I'm in tears reading your story.. my heart breaks for you and your family.
Posted 25 February 2013 - 02:55 PM
I totally agree with you that you made the right decision to put them down, however I have the opinion that any dog can do that, regardless of the breed or size, or owners. The dogs were being dogs, pack animals, and unfortunately sometimes these things do happen, and I would be as upset as you are right now. *hugs* My dogs are my fur babies and I would be distraught.
Family labradors have been shot in our district for attacking lambs. Small terriers are known for being terrible with chickens/rabbits and birds. They are just doing what thier instincts tell them, and pack mentality will mean one might start it, but then they all get involved. Prey drive is a strong pull and very few dogs can resist once the others have started. Unfortunately for them its not acceptable in our society and i do believe they have to be put down, as once they do it, they cant stop themsleves from doing it again.
I live on a farm, our 2 dogs are locked up in their run when we are not supervising them. I simply dont give them the opportunity to mess up. However, If they did something similar, they would get put down.
Take a deep breath and just talk to your kids, as im sure your doing already. I cant imagine how hard it is for them to understand.
Posted 25 February 2013 - 02:58 PM
Oh OP, I'm so sorry. I had chills reading that. That poor poor steer. I think you did the right thing by getting him euthanized as soon as you could and I also think you did the right thing by having all 4 dogs euthanized. You would never ever be able trust any of them around animals or people again, so really, it was the only responsible thing to do.
I hope you can all put it behind you and get the pictures out of your heads soon.
Posted 25 February 2013 - 03:00 PM
Im so sorry for your loss :-(
As a staffy lover you did the right thing. After a attack like that they would not be able to be trusted.
Enjoy your beautful new puppies
Posted 25 February 2013 - 03:04 PM
I am so sorry to hear that OP
I love animals and I have tears in my eyes now thinking of your poor steer
I also think that animals behave accordingly to how they are brought up, unless you have a lot of them together where I think the pack mentality can take over. I could never have more than 2 and even then I tend to have one small dog With the bigger one and not 2 medium or large together.
My best friend had a staffy puppy that she had put down after it attacked a pony
Posted 25 February 2013 - 03:05 PM
Oh OP, how awful for all of you! I'm sorry you had to go through that.
It's far too easy to forget that dogs, regardless how close they are to us, are animals with animal instincts. These can definitely be heightened when they are in groups of 3 or more, as they then take on pack mentality, but as a PP showed, even one single dog can still act out of character.
It's something I fear with our two girls, and this is a valuable reminder to never take their gentle natures for granted.
I've been outside with them when they started snapping at each other (one kept trying to take the other's ball in confusion about which was which) and it was scary to see how quickly they escalated. I was right between them petting one of them at the time and grabbed them both apart (not the smartest idea, but it was in the heat of the moment) and copped scratches from one of their open mouths. I was lucky they calmed down quickly.
Big hugs to you and your family, and I wish you all the best with your new puppies.
Posted 25 February 2013 - 03:14 PM
It can be any breed, it can be any dog.
I read once that 'any dog, at any time, can revert to instinct and interpret the unco-ordinated movements and high-pitched noises of the human infant as the signals of prey' and it's true.
The moment you have more than one dog, you have a pack, and a pack will behave differently from a single dog.
I love dogs, I have worked with rehabilitating dogs, worked in shelters, very pro-dog but they are animals. There was a case recently with a labrador who had grown up with a family, spend four years with the child, much loved, trusted, adored, yada yada. One day it forgot it was a pet and mauled the child it had lived with for so long.
These cases tend to be the exception and lots of people will reply that surely the child was taunting it or something - it wasn't, it was just a dog being a dog.
I think you were probably very lucky with your pack in a rural environment that nothing happened before now.
It's an awful thing to go through and I really am sorry.
Posted 25 February 2013 - 03:16 PM
Wow, what a horrific thing to happen to the steer.
I would hope you wont get quite so many dogs again- it seems to have been a pack action- something you would hope would be less likely in a single or double dog household. It would seem the responsible thing to do when you have livestock around.
1 user(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users
to WIN 1 of 2 $500 Coles/Myer gift cards
Your schedule is not important to your two-year-old, and you cannot convince her otherwise. So what can you do?
A child whose remains were dumped in a suitcase in the South Australian bush is believed to have been a girl aged between two-and-a-half to four.
An Argentinian mum and politician has caused a stir on social media after being filmed breastfeeding her baby.
It was 1am on a cold winter's night when I woke suddenly to the screams of my 12-month-old son. Our lives were about to change forever.
Inflatable and portable children's pools may be required to be sold with compulsory fencing to prevent backyard drownings, with some experts even floating the idea of a ban.
At 11.07am on April 2 this year, Sarah Marriott welcomed baby Sebastian into the world.
These kids' beds definitely fit the brief of providing personality and personal space for little people who are moving up in the world.
Since becoming noticeably pregnant, my son has taken more of an interest in the sibling he'll soon have.
In this age of political correctness, it seems the one subject still subject to discrimination is that of the Only Child.
A neighbour heard a child screaming before a baby was found dead, believed to have been stabbed, in a house in Newcastle.
So far, 206 Samsung washing machines have caught fire and some have exploded. But many remain in people's homes.
We all know that having a baby can turn your life upside down - and it can also bring a raft of new anxieties and worries.
Couples using IVF may be able to choose the gender of their babies and women could be financially compensated for donating their eggs.
Not too young, and not too old. That's reportedly the best age to get married. Not everyone agrees.
After giving birth, the last thing you want to think about is contraception. But you can get pregnant before your period comes back.
Parents of toddlers everywhere know the feeling. After working up the courage to take your child out for lunch or dinner in public you are rewarded with a mid-meal meltdown.
Two children were killed when pieces from their Malm furniture line tipped over.
If you're looking to introduce an organic element into your baby's nursery but want to step away from natural timber, we have the perfect alternative.
I am in no way qualified to advise women on how to cope with hyperemesis, but I've learnt some lessons that might be worth sharing with other partners.
Best friends share everything - and for these two life-long friends, that includes family.
Samuel Forrest didn't want his wife as a trustee of their baby Leo's half million dollar trust for her own "protection", it has emerged.
Men who become fathers experience weight gain and an increase in body mass index, a measurement of body fat based on height and weight, according to a new, large-scale study
She said the photo of a boy with Down syndrome in a washing machine was taken just for fun, but no one else was laughing.
An opulent high tea at a luxury Melbourne hotel has left 44 people with salmonella poisoning - including a pregnant woman, who went into early labour.
Would you know what to do in a fire emergency? How safe is your home and family?
Prince George's second birthday has been marked by the release of an official picture showing the toddler smiling as he is held by his proud beaming father.
Is it safe to use fake tan, hair dye and nail varnish during pregnancy?
The truth is, I can no longer deny that my walking, babbling, somewhat-independent little miss is no longer a bona fide 'baby'.
I'm not usually one who believes in love at first sight but that's exactly what happened when I first saw the Cybex PRIAM.
Get your free ticket to the Sydney Essential Baby & Toddler Show for September 25-27 - register online now.
to WIN 1 of 2 $500 Coles/Myer gift cards
I believe that you get out of families what you put into them, and I will give mine my all.
I have had two postnatal psychotic episodes. The first when my eldest child was six weeks old, and another after my second child was born.
French names are always in fashion, but a few have risen in popularity in recent years.
A British woman who gave birth in Spain has told of her ordeal after spending weeks trying to convince medics the baby girl was hers.
Some friends of ours say that it's dangerous to have a dog around a newborn and that we should start looking for a new home for him. Is it?
First Apple and Facebook announced they would pay $20,000 towards the cost of their female employees freezing their eggs, now IBM in the US has come up with an innovative new policy aimed at retaining female employees.
The Duke of Cambridge opened up about family life and his plans for the future in an interview to mark his first day as an air ambulance pilot.
A simple photo taken in front of an evening fire gave new mother Sarah Bowers the power to save her baby's life.
Of all the advice people told me before having a baby, no one warned me about the amount of decisions involved.
Parents of toddlers all know the moment when realise your child is being suspiciously quiet. It can only mean one thing - trouble!
If you have trouble recalling the ages of Jeremy Ryan's seven children on The Voice, you're not alone. So does he.
Getting glasses can be a formative moment in a person's life.
When a mum of six was caught shoplifting nappies, clothes and shoes for her kids, the last thing she expected was for a stranger to pay for her haul.
The risk of having uncontrolled depression is far greater than the small increased risk of birth defects that may be associated with specific antidepressants.
Police have raided properties and arrested a number of people over a brawl at a child's birthday party at a play centre in Sydney's west.
Looking for a creative way to share some big news? Look to the skies, like this family did.
Little Owen DiCandilo's name means "young warrior", and it's a description that perfectly fits the inspiring 18-month-old
The exhaustion that comes with caring for young children often means romance between parents becomes a thing of the past.
I've been fat for pretty much most of life, besides a few crazy moments of being less-fat, but for the most part I've existed on this earth with a little more meat on my bones than desirable.
Since the dawn of civilisation, generation after generation of new parents have had to rely on instinct, trial and error - and sometimes get it wrong.
Get your free ticket to The Essential Baby & Toddler Show and save $20 - register online now!