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#1 Futhermore

Posted 23 February 2013 - 05:39 PM

I didn't finish high school.  Haven't completed any further study either.  I worked as kitchen hand, then strawberry picker, completed an intro to vet nursing but found it too hard to get into. Every where employs vet students as their nurses. Worked a few years as a concreter's labourer.  Did the paper work side of thing for that business but wasn't particularly good at it.  Started an accounting diploma at TAFE but dropped out within a term - baby at home, only two hours contact a week, couldn't organise my time or keep up etc.  Did 3/4 of a horticulture certificate and worked for 2 years in a nursery which I LOVED.  Thought I would work in the field indefinately but my back is buggered so I can't do it anymore.  I'm currently working 9 hours a week in a school tuckshop.  Money is bad, atmosphere is horrible.

I have no idea what I want to do.  Tafe online would be fine, university is out of the question.  I did o.k at school but I've pretty much lost any smarts I had.  Lack of use, lack of confidence and maybe a beer or two too many perhaps? I have poor time management, I procrastinate.  I have difficulty working as part of a large organisation with lots of red tape where the wheels turn at snails pace.  Working for the school's p&c as uniform convenor taught me that.

I can't do anything with lots of lifting or bending.

I once upon a time wanted to  be a counsellor.  I like the teenagers at school so I thought maybe youth work, or teacher aide work, but then I think, 'I can't get my own personal life together, how could I possibly help other people with theirs?'   Also fronting up to a school or other organisation looking for vocational placement scares the sh*t out of me, and I can't picture myself feeling comfortable or confident in any roles that mean talking with co-workers a lot.  I'm not a people person, my social skills are poor,  mostly due to being extremely self consious and lacking in confidence I think.   I have a bogan accent I'm embarrassed of but can't seem to kick,  and I don't even enjoy maintaining regular extended family contact or friendships, never mind work relationships.

So I'm at a bit of a loss.  I can't touch type.  I have never done any office or reception work.  My computer skills are basic.  I'm mostly on my own with two school age kids while my partner works away, so in the short term I have to fit what ever it is I decide to do around their needs too. In the longer term I'm hoping to share the work load more evenly though, so even if I can do study and placement now, and work FT later, that would be all right.

Ideas anyone?

Edited by ~maryanne~, 23 February 2013 - 08:31 PM.


#2 TwinkyBear

Posted 23 February 2013 - 05:55 PM

I'd suggest visiting MyFuture, signing up for a free account in MyGuide and taking the free careers quiz.  It's fairly comprehensive and asks about your interest, skills and preferences.  It's a start at least to narrowing it down to an area you think might suit you.

#3 Mianta

Posted 23 February 2013 - 06:09 PM

I think your biggest problem is your confidence. You have to believe that you can do something and follow through with it.

I didn't think I was smart enough to study ever but ended up going to uni, twice and earning two qualifications, one as a nurse, another as a midwife. I am a complete science idiot but got through it. I have a feeling that other people didn't believe I could do but I did it. With little kids and a husband that was in the army, so away A LOT!!!

As a side note, my extremely smart brother (much more academic than me at school) ended up doing an apprenticeship, because that was what he wanted to do. I think he was the one everyone was banking on acquiring a degree or two but I was the one who ended up doing it. Not that his apprenticeship didn't take him places. He is now the manager of a meat department (butcher) for a major supermarket and does very well for himself as well.

My point is, confidence and complete perseverence can lead you to your dreams. You don't need to be Albert Einstein to go to TAFE or to go to uni. You DO have to believe in yourself though.

#4 Affogato

Posted 23 February 2013 - 06:15 PM

Maybe community services through TAFE or OTEN? They have courses like http://oten.tafensw.edu.au/courses-and-car...rse-search/5565
You could work in mental health perhaps, depending where you are there are organisations like Richmond PRA and other places.

Confidence is difficult. Hopefully getting into study helps a bit, and you could also see a psychologist about strategies if you wanted to work on that, and maybe the thought processes that are leading to you feeling less confident with others. If you are finding it problematic and wanted to.

I hope you find what you want to do, and enjoy it!

#5 76 others

Posted 23 February 2013 - 06:52 PM

It does sound like its your confidence as well. Many TAFES offer short courses for women returning to work. Can you look into something like that?

#6 Coffeegirl

Posted 23 February 2013 - 07:14 PM

I agree with PPs. You need to work on your own self esteem and confidence.  You've raised children!  That in itself is a job and a career!   Have you thought of being a nanny or live-out housekeeper?

Why not finish your horticulture degree?  Approach some of the local nurseries or Flower Power.  Explain that although your back is screwed, you can sell.  Or work as a cashier.  They still get asked lots of questions that I'm sure you could answer.

Or get into the buying office of the nursery?

Try your local Tafe.  They have lots of free courses for women who need to upgrade or learn new office skills.



#7 niggles

Posted 23 February 2013 - 07:17 PM

I think you express yourself well. Give yourself a little more credit. What a shame your back keeps you from the nursery job you loved. What was it about it that you liked? That might give some idea of where to look into next.

#8 MarsBarSlice

Posted 23 February 2013 - 07:17 PM

Confidence is so hard to find but if you can recognise that is what you need, it's a starting point.  I lack alot of confidence when it comes to studying and jobs.  I haven't worked since July 2008 and need to make that first step and don't know where to start either.  Thinking of you and hope you find what you need. biggrin.gif

#9 Futhermore

Posted 23 February 2013 - 07:38 PM

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I'd suggest visiting MyFuture,


Thank you, it comes up with a lot of things I physically can't do.

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Have you thought of being a nanny or live-out housekeeper?


That would be my worst nightmare - kids and cleaning.  Eek!

QUOTE
Why not finish your horticulture degree? Approach some of the local nurseries or Flower Power. Explain that although your back is screwed, you can sell. Or work as a cashier.


I was only doing cert 2, and the last thing I need to do to complete is lay turf and contruct paved area and concreteing.  I just can't do it.  My back struggled to get through the weed componant.  Even if I could I guess I don't see the point apart from personal interest.  Even the sales lady in a nursery needs to bend, lift and twist - they also tend the plant and unpack orders.  I'm not anywhere near a degree and don't think horticulture work without a very hands on componant exists.  And if it does I can't imagine it would be easy to get into.

QUOTE
Confidence is so hard to find but if you can recognise that is what you need, it's a starting point. I lack alot of confidence when it comes to studying and jobs. I haven't worked since July 2008 and need to make that first step and don't know where to start either. Thinking of you and hope you find what you need.


Thanks :-).  I think the confidance is only going to come by actually achieving something - but I'm terrified of starting yet another thing I'll fail to finish or be bad at.

Edited by ~maryanne~, 23 February 2013 - 07:44 PM.


#10 Futhermore

Posted 23 February 2013 - 07:42 PM

QUOTE
I think you express yourself well. Give yourself a little more credit. What a shame your back keeps you from the nursery job you loved. What was it about it that you liked? That might give some idea of where to look into next.


The jobs I have liked the most have all been quite physical.  The thing that made nursery better than the others was that it was physical without being exhausting, it was outdoors without constantly being in the weather, and it involves such a wide variety of tasks.

Edited by ~maryanne~, 23 February 2013 - 07:42 PM.


#11 MarsBarSlice

Posted 23 February 2013 - 07:46 PM

I have no experience or knowledge in the area of horticulture however what about landscaping design?  That way you would be outside to do quotes and talk to the potential clients and then sitting down to do the actual design.  Sorry if that doesn't make sense.

#12 feralgreenthumbs

Posted 23 February 2013 - 07:47 PM

Sorry if this is a stupid suggestion, but can your back be fixed?

Can you see an osteo, GP, physio, chiropractor etc? Find out exactly what the problem is and look into fixing it? Perhaps it could be done.

I only suggest this as my story is so similar to yours. Didn't finish school, barely scraped through my school cert. Worked in waitressing, office dogsbody, proceeding to accounts dept (but hate working with people in close quarters) tried to study at tafe with accounting, didn't have the motivation to continue, finally quit that, am now working in horticulture and absolutely adoring it! Big difference though is that I am fortunate that my back problems have actually gotten better from not sitting at a desk all day.

Either way, some great suggestions from pp's. Hope you figure something out. Perhaps visit or speak with some horticulture teachers at tafe and see if there are options for working in the industry despite back issues?

#13 Dionysus

Posted 23 February 2013 - 07:52 PM

The hort certificate has about 68 competencies in it, only 13 of which need to be selected to make up the certificate.

Can't you find something other than the turf one to finish it off?

#14 Futhermore

Posted 23 February 2013 - 08:00 PM

QUOTE (greenthumbs @ 23/02/2013, 07:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sorry if this is a stupid suggestion, but can your back be fixed?

Can you see an osteo, GP, physio, chiropractor etc? Find out exactly what the problem is and look into fixing it? Perhaps it could be done.

I only suggest this as my story is so similar to yours. Didn't finish school, barely scraped through my school cert. Worked in waitressing, office dogsbody, proceeding to accounts dept (but hate working with people in close quarters) tried to study at tafe with accounting, didn't have the motivation to continue, finally quit that, am now working in horticulture and absolutely adoring it! Big difference though is that I am fortunate that my back problems have actually gotten better from not sitting at a desk all day.

Either way, some great suggestions from pp's. Hope you figure something out. Perhaps visit or speak with some horticulture teachers at tafe and see if there are options for working in the industry despite back issues?



It's been 18 months, physio, chiro, osteo, musculo-skeletal specialist.  Several diagnoses (scoliosis, 2X deranged disks, 1 x herniated disk, pinched nerve, sacro iliac joint dysfuntion, ligament damage, but no explanation for some symptoms :-( ) and no solutions beyond stretching, dry needling, manipulation, massage and core exercises.  That has got me to a point where I can drive long distances, push a shopping trolley, clean the floors, but not do much more than that.  Even at work in the tuckshop I bend at the knees in a half squat to reach into the bottom of the sink.  I can't even bend over to make a bed, or carry a carton of drinks to the fridge, or sit with my legs straight out in front of me.  It has certainly improved, but honestly, I don't see it improving enough that I could work full time in a physical role.

#15 Futhermore

Posted 23 February 2013 - 08:03 PM

QUOTE (**Mel** @ 23/02/2013, 07:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The hort certificate has about 68 competencies in it, only 13 of which need to be selected to make up the certificate.

Can't you find something other than the turf one to finish it off?



No, they are grouped into units - You need to do all but one.  √Čven if I finished it off - what would I do with it then?

ETA:  The course brochure is here - http://coursesearch.bn.tafe.qld.gov.au/Ass...0219_013405.pdf.  

You need the two core competancies and 13 of the 14 electives to complete the certificate.

Edited by ~maryanne~, 23 February 2013 - 08:20 PM.


#16 Angelot

Posted 23 February 2013 - 08:03 PM

QUOTE (~maryanne~ @ 23/02/2013, 08:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The jobs I have liked the most have all been quite physical.  The thing that made nursery better than the others was that it was physical without being exhausting, it was outdoors without constantly being in the weather, and it involves such a wide variety of tasks.


This is a suggestion way out of left field, but what about work as a tour guide of some sort?  I thought of it because of guided tours of botanical gardens and stuff, but there are guides to everything under the sun - or the people who are points of contact for tourists in the CBD, that sort of thing?

#17 Futhermore

Posted 23 February 2013 - 08:04 PM

QUOTE (Ange Vert @ 23/02/2013, 08:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is a suggestion way out of left field, but what about work as a tour guide of some sort?  I thought of it because of guided tours of botanical gardens and stuff, but there are guides to everything under the sun - or the people who are points of contact for tourists in the CBD, that sort of thing?



That would be pretty bloody awesome and worth looking into.

#18 pruehp

Posted 23 February 2013 - 08:08 PM

For someone who thinks they lack education you write extremely well. Your prose flows very nicely and it easy to read.  I think you should pursue some type of office work. Perhaps learn to touch type - it is a very useful skill.

#19 Futhermore

Posted 23 February 2013 - 08:16 PM

QUOTE (pruehp @ 23/02/2013, 08:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
For someone who thinks they lack education you write extremely well. Your prose flows very nicely and it easy to read.


Thanks.  :-)  
  


#20 Ms.Nolte

Posted 23 February 2013 - 08:17 PM

You could also look into being an administrator or advispr (in an office environment) for companies who rehabilitate contaminated sites? A lot of rehab work has to do with monitoring plant growth and things like that. Someone with your knowledge could be very valued.

#21 Bottom

Posted 23 February 2013 - 08:18 PM

Well, you can certainly write well, and that is a rarity these days. Plus, your grammar and punctuation is near perfect on the page. Have you considered a proof reading or editing course- there is work around, and you could do a course to write copy for adverts and things, too.

Edited by mummatoo, 23 February 2013 - 08:19 PM.


#22 kpingitquiet

Posted 23 February 2013 - 08:21 PM

This may sound strange but maybe your first stop should be a counselor or therapist? Maybe they can help you work on your anxiety surrounding talking to co-workers and prospective workplaces, help you build tools to increase your confidence, and help you figure out just what path you feel your life should take.

#23 Futhermore

Posted 23 February 2013 - 08:25 PM

QUOTE (mummatoo @ 23/02/2013, 08:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, you can certainly write well, and that is a rarity these days. Plus, your grammar and punctuation is near perfect on the page. Have you considered a proof reading or editing course- there is work around, and you could do a course to write copy for adverts and things, too.



I'll look into both those courses.  I quite enjoy reading and writing,  and editing other's work comes naturally to me.

#24 Futhermore

Posted 23 February 2013 - 08:28 PM

QUOTE (kpingitquiet @ 23/02/2013, 08:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This may sound strange but maybe your first stop should be a counselor or therapist? Maybe they can help you work on your anxiety surrounding talking to co-workers and prospective workplaces, help you build tools to increase your confidence, and help you figure out just what path you feel your life should take.



Not a strange suggestion at all.  I am quite aware I have issues there that are holding me back.  In fact it was after some counselling I decided to do the horticulture, and having something I enjoyed doing and was good at really helped.  Now I am back to square one.

#25 kpingitquiet

Posted 23 February 2013 - 08:30 PM

That has to be really hard to cope with, when your body stops letting you do what you love. I hope you find your path.




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