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#1 qak

Posted 22 February 2013 - 11:46 AM

I am quite sure the system has changed since I went to uni 20+ years ago!

We have a relative who is asking for money for Uni costs, and we are sceptical this is the real purpose of funds.  There have been many requests for more money over the years.

She is in her last year of school so would not be starting Uni until next year.  Are there costs to be paid now?  Like enrolment application fees or similar?  She lives in Southern Queensland, I don't know what Uni she would be going to but she is apparently interested in a diplomatic career - she likes travel wink.gif - I can only guess the course would be Arts?

When she does actually start Uni I am assuming there are up front uni fees, student union, books etc.  How much would need to be set aside for these?  I understand the actual course fees can be deferred under HECS or whatever it is called today.

#2 HerringToMarmalade

Posted 22 February 2013 - 11:53 AM

All uni fees can be deferred with HECs, the student union fees may also be covered by a HECs type thing. Books need to be paid upfront if she buys them, but many people don't, especially not before the course has actually started. The earliest she'd need to pay anything would be sometime in March in her first year of uni. There are no application fees etc.

#3 qak

Posted 22 February 2013 - 11:59 AM

QUOTE (HerringToMarmalade @ 22/02/2013, 12:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The earliest she'd need to pay anything would be sometime in March in her first year of uni. There are no application fees etc.


This is pretty much what I thought ... yet another scam ...

#4 Beancat

Posted 22 February 2013 - 12:03 PM

although the structure of Hecs has changed there are no application fees unless she is going to a private uni?  She is not planning on going to Bond or the like?

#5 PrincessPeach

Posted 22 February 2013 - 12:05 PM

No fees need to be paid for now. If she is in her final year she wouldn't even know if she has been sucessful - nor would she have even lodged her QTAC application yet!

The offers for next year are not released until January next year & then she need to accept. QTAC applications are simply a phone call.

After that, the only fees to be paid upfront should be her textbooks. Even then, we were advised to not buy them until after our first lecture, in-case they needed to be changed. She will also need to have access to a computer, printer & Internet.

I can also tell you that Griffith, UQ, QUT & USQ also do online streaming of their lectures, so if transport is an issue on a particular day, then she can just view them online.

#6 WinterDancesHere

Posted 22 February 2013 - 12:06 PM

I assume she would be applying through QTAC, and I don't think applications have opened yet (from memory applications start August or September).

QTAC

There is a small application fee that is paid when you apply (under $100).

If she does got to uni and gets youth allowance the government gives a lump sum each semester for book costs as well, in case she asks for money for that.

Edited by WinterDancesHere, 22 February 2013 - 12:08 PM.


#7 katpaws

Posted 22 February 2013 - 12:10 PM

This might help:

http://studyassist.gov.au/sites/studyassis...cs-help-welcome

http://www.usq.edu.au/current-students/org...rring/hecs-help

http://future.ask.sydney.edu.au/app/answer...o-to-university

You have HELP, which had different loan fees for tuition cost and uni amenity fees.

There should not be any costs now as if she has not deferred a place, i don't think she would have received a place yet as you need to have a tertiary entrance score as a younger person to apply to uni. There is no capping of places at public universities and the unis decide how many students they want to take on but they can't ask people to pay for places to be held before they get an enrolment etc. She should be able to provide you with n invoice outlining all the charges.

Other costs are placement (work experience) costs, books, printing, union fees, residential fees if living in campus, transport costs, parking etc.

I completed a degree recently and really only paid the costs of the tuition (i did not use HECS).

If she is going to a private university/college the fees could be a lot more but at the moment i understand that unis have to set the prices for tuition as set by the Federal Goverment but other fees/costs are up to them.

Find out where she is going and check out their website.

Edited by katpaws, 22 February 2013 - 12:13 PM.


#8 qak

Posted 22 February 2013 - 12:12 PM

I did briefly wonder about Bond, but looking at their website, they have no fee deferral (and the cost of an  undergraduate fee is nearly $100,000!).  I don't think that is within her reach, somehow; and I am pretty sure she would not be likely to get a scholarship.

#9 HollyOllyOxenfree

Posted 22 February 2013 - 12:21 PM

Is she asking just randomly, or asking for money towards uni as a birthday gift? Just randomly is rude and bizarre, but if she's requesting it as a birthday gift I don't see a problem with it. There are costs associated with uni even with the various fee help options, so perhaps she's being conscientious and starting to save towards it?

Or she's mooching wink.gif

#10 B.3

Posted 22 February 2013 - 12:23 PM

I go to uni in QLD.

I paid $115 2 years ago to QTAC to file my registration and preferences.

In my first term I paid $700 for books for 3 subjects. I never made that mistake again!! Since then, and 2 years later I have spent a total of about $150 on books!! You don't need half of the ones they tell you and they ones you do need I have been able to buy second hand or borrow from the library.

I defer most of my fees. Sometimes every now and then I pay a term in cash here and there to prevent my HECS debt growing. It's not essential though.

My degree is far more expensive than my sister's degree (teaching). I have next to no national priority subjects. She had a half hour drive through 2 tolls and pay parking at her uni though where as I am 5 minutes away and parking is free. Her out of pocket is much more than mine but my debt will be three times as much!!

There are a few variables. She shouldn't need help with whatever fees she has though. I can't believe you have been asked for money!!

#11 PrincessPeach

Posted 22 February 2013 - 12:26 PM

QUOTE (Bek+3 @ 22/02/2013, 12:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In my first term I paid $700 for books for 3 subjects. I never made that mistake again!! Since then, and 2 years later I have spent a total of about $150 on books!! You don't need half of the ones they tell you and they ones you do need I have been able to buy second hand or borrow from the library.


I used to pay over $500 a semester for my textbooks & that was 10 years ago...however most of them were legislation & I still refer to some of them even today.

The second hand bookshop was great for any non-law books!

#12 B.3

Posted 22 February 2013 - 12:35 PM

Yes, a lot of the books I have bought I've sold on again too so I got my money back. I am anti clutter though. I get rid of things now and worry about them later!! My DH did an engineering degree and kept all his books. I keep tell him to sell them before the editions get too far out of date but he says NO, he uses them!!!  laugh.gif

#13 Georgette47

Posted 22 February 2013 - 12:37 PM

Is she moving out of home to go to uni? As a rural kid, I remember saving to go away to uni - most was for living costs, although I did pick up a part-time job as soon as I could.

#14 qak

Posted 22 February 2013 - 12:43 PM

QUOTE (HollyOllyOxenfree @ 22/02/2013, 01:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is she asking just randomly, or asking for money towards uni as a birthday gift?


She asked the grandparents for it on the basis that she needs money it to enrol in Uni now.  
The grandparents asked us what had to be paid now. They have contributed so much towards her education already!

There is a lot more history than I would be willing to put on here, and I would guess that it has to do with her mother/father/guilt trip on the grandparents (on both sides)/entitlement etc.



#15 katpaws

Posted 22 February 2013 - 12:49 PM

I don't think that she would have been offered a place without a TE score. The grandparents should ask to see the invoice or letter of offer.



#16 DontPokeTheBearMum

Posted 22 February 2013 - 12:59 PM

Is she a citizen? I am a permanent resident and have to pay fees upfront before the census date at the end of March. So $4000 odd dollars for full time study.

#17 qak

Posted 22 February 2013 - 01:01 PM

QUOTE (Captain Fembo @ 22/02/2013, 01:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is she a citizen? I am a permanent resident and have to pay fees upfront before the census date at the end of March. So $4000 odd dollars for full time study.


Yes - born in Australia, both parents born in Australia.

#18 ~*Twilight~Zone*~

Posted 22 February 2013 - 01:08 PM

This is in WA so probably different but last year when my DD applied for Uni there was an application fee (something nominal around $30).

Applications closed around Sept and she then had to wait until Jan this year to see if she had a high enough TEE/ATAR score to get in.  Offers from the Uni's were then sent out soon after.  Asking for money now seems a little odd.

Also depending on her parents income she could be eligible for Youth Allowance.  If she is she would also get paid $1025 per semester to assist her in purchasing of books and stationary.

Also if she uses HECS then there would also be no fees to pay as these will be deferred until she is earning a high enough income.

There really is no need for her to be approaching her grandparent for money at all IMO.

#19 starsg

Posted 22 February 2013 - 01:13 PM


I work in student admin at a university and I can tell you at this stage (is she planning on going to uni in 2014?) she will not have to pay anything, she is trying to scam you.

the way it works is (in vic anyway, I assume it would be fairly similar in QLD), around September she will put in her course preferences. then, she'll get her results around the start of December. Universities will make their first round offers to students in January and will generally enrol students into their courses in Jan.

Unless she is applying for fee paying places which hardly any local students do unless their results are bad, she will be in a commonwealth supported (CSP) place which means all her fees are able to be deferred on HECS. she will not have to pay ANY of her HECS debt until she is earning over the threshold which is around $45k. For an arts degree, books should be under $300 a semester and if she is accessing any type of government support she will get an education start up payment of around $600 at the start of each semester to cover these expenses.




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