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#1 American-Pie.

Posted 20 February 2013 - 09:18 AM

We got a new puppy last week, as company for our other dog through the day.

He is 7 weeks, the other dog is just over a year old. Both Staffy x's. Puppy is male, and other dog is Female.


However, the puppy just wont stop whinging when outside, even with the other dog, and now the other dog is starting to whinge.

I exercise them in the morning ( walk the older one ) and play numerously with the puppy to get good level of exercise out of them before work.


I feed the puppy, to ensure he has a full tummy, feed the other dog as normal. Give chewy bones to occupy, toys, water etc.


But the puppy wont stop whinging and now the older dog is starting to copy.


I just got back from walking DS to school and could hear the dogs crying, I'm jut grateful we have construction going on in the streets that it eliminates the noise a bit.


But how do I get on top of this behaviour.  The only effective thing that seems to be working is a smack on the glass door ( which they are 2m away from ) and a stern no.

I've done it this morning, when they wouldn't stop, and then did it promptly when they started again 10mins later, and it has worked, but im just concerned when I'm not home.


They are inside and outside dogs, spend more time inside really. But they need to get used to being outside, well the older one is. Until the puppy starts crying, so does she.



WDYT?

#2 Epitome

Posted 20 February 2013 - 09:24 AM

Honestly - at 7 weeks the puppy should still be with his mother.  He's crying because he misses her and his litter mates.

#3 Tikiboo16

Posted 20 February 2013 - 09:25 AM

7 weeks is still a bit too young to be seperated from Mum... This shouldn't happen until 8 weeks.. I think the puppy is just settling in.. this is a massive change for him and he just needs to feel secure in his new life. I would spend as much time as you possibly can just being in his presence and gently guiding him. I wouldn't worry abou the whinging.. it will stop very soon when he settles into his new life.. good luck!

#4 CharliMarley

Posted 20 February 2013 - 09:32 AM

Has the puppy got a nice comfortable bed outside, because he misses the comfort of being with his litter mates. Perhaps an old stuffed toy in the bed with him may help.

#5 FiveAus

Posted 20 February 2013 - 09:56 AM

The poor little button, he's just a tiny, tiny baby and like all tiny babies he needs warmth, skin contact, comfort and a snuggly place to nap......and plenty of opportunity for sleeping. Bring him inside, make up a crate for him with some soft rugs and cushions, cover it so its nice and cosy and put him in there to sleep. When he wakes up, take him out for a wee and a play, then give him some more time in his crate. Give him lots of cuddles and make him feel secure and safe.He is really too little to be in a new home, by law puppies aren't supposed to be sold until they are 8 weeks old. But what's done is done and you'll have to be his mum until he's a bit bigger.

#6 Gossipgirl

Posted 20 February 2013 - 10:16 AM

I also have a staffy pup she is 14 weeks now but I got her around 9 weeks give or take and she is a sook the one thing I have heard about the staffy breed is they are complete sooks and love company they want to be around you all the time and get lonely (as a lot of other dogs do)

Bring him inside with you he is so young and needs lots of cuddles and affection.
My husband said when we got our pup she is a outside dog not inside but the day we got her he fell in love and she now comes inside and naps in her crate all the time and if she is outside and we are home we have to have the curtains open so she can see us all the time she really just wants to know we are around so maybe your puppy is looking for the same??

#7 Bottom

Posted 20 February 2013 - 10:18 AM

7 weeks!How do people justify separating a puppy from its mother at 7 weeks?! You should be cuddling it constantly, especially at night. Is it getting an opportunity to suckle on anything- a bottle?

#8 Bottom

Posted 20 February 2013 - 10:22 AM

8 weeks is way too youmg too. 12 weeks is just acceptable, but still cruel and hard for puppies and mothers. Just because something is legal so people can have an animal for their entertainment doesn't mean it is morally right.

#9 Gossipgirl

Posted 20 February 2013 - 10:23 AM

Just read the post again you said he was 7 weeks and you got him last week so you got him at 6 weeks old??
Who would sell a puppy at 6 weeks? no wonder he is making noise he is missing his mum sad.gif

#10 little bird

Posted 20 February 2013 - 10:53 AM

totally agree with all the above. we had a 1 year old staffy girl when we got our 7 week old staffy boy (sold at 7 weeks by the breeder - no chance of keeping him there longer). knowing the very young age, we didn't leave his side until around 12 weeks. i took 5 weeks off to be there while he grew. the pup needs constant love, comfort, warmth and cuddles.

leaving an older dog alone with a pup that age is also a recipe for disaster. we couldn't take our eyes off the older one, who is as gentle as a butterfly, but was so excited by the new addition that she didn't know her own strength.

i don't think smacking the door and discipline will help in any way but scaring the poor thing.

and yep, staffies are sooks. absolute sooks. even at 1 now, our boy is a talker and a vocal little sook. you might have a future talker on your hands.

#11 Guest_~Karla~_*

Posted 20 February 2013 - 11:20 AM

I'm another one echoing what has been said. Instead of scaring him by hitting the door, can't you just keep him with you for a few weeks? Let him be your little shadow and follow you around and give him loads of cuddles and attention and a nice comfy, secure bed to sleep in. Most little puppies like to feel sheltered, which is why they often sleep under beds, in corners etc. once they're seperated from their mum.

He is very little and is just a baby. Like all babies, puppies need cuddles and attention and security. And I think it especially important for one so young as your pup.

#12 ~Nodnol~

Posted 20 February 2013 - 12:26 PM

QUOTE (CherryRipe @ 20/02/2013, 09:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We got a new puppy last week, as company for our other dog through the day.

He is 7 weeks, the other dog is just over a year old. Both Staffy x's. Puppy is male, and other dog is Female.


However, the puppy just wont stop whinging when outside, even with the other dog, and now the other dog is starting to whinge.

I exercise them in the morning ( walk the older one ) and play numerously with the puppy to get good level of exercise out of them before work.


I feed the puppy, to ensure he has a full tummy, feed the other dog as normal. Give chewy bones to occupy, toys, water etc.


But the puppy wont stop whinging and now the older dog is starting to copy.


I just got back from walking DS to school and could hear the dogs crying, I'm jut grateful we have construction going on in the streets that it eliminates the noise a bit.


But how do I get on top of this behaviour.  The only effective thing that seems to be working is a smack on the glass door ( which they are 2m away from ) and a stern no.

I've done it this morning, when they wouldn't stop, and then did it promptly when they started again 10mins later, and it has worked, but im just concerned when I'm not home.


They are inside and outside dogs, spend more time inside really. But they need to get used to being outside, well the older one is. Until the puppy starts crying, so does she.



WDYT?



A puppy that age should be inside with constant supervision. Really he should still be with his mum and litter mates. He's probably scared and missing the physical contact. sad.gif
How often is the poor little thing being fed? How is he being kept warm and protected? He's "whining" because his needs are not being met. He's a baby- he needs to be treated like one.

#13 FeralRebelWClaws

Posted 20 February 2013 - 12:34 PM

TBH I'm surprised your other staffy cross doesn't whinge. All staffies I've know are whingey/chatty.

But I definitely agree with PPs and if he is so little it's no wonder that he's whining, particularly if left outside.

#14 One_feral_dirtgirl

Posted 20 February 2013 - 12:42 PM

Honestly, what on earth were you expecting from a 7-week old puppy?  He's probably a bit scared, lonely, looking for a bit of comfort. But all you can do is bang the window and scare the living daylights out of him?

That aside, I think you'll find that most staffies are sooky dogs...they love human company, and tend to moan if left apart from the action.  You have also mentioned that there is construction works happening nearby (which you said you were grateful for because it was drowning out the whingeing)...perhaps the noise is stressing him out. Try bringing him inside where he is shielded from the noise and see if he settles down.

As for the older dog copying...perhaps she is distressed by the puppy's crying, hence the copying. I think, instead of punishing them, you should try a bit harder to work out the cause, and go from there.

#15 darcswan

Posted 20 February 2013 - 01:03 PM

QUOTE (~Nodnol~ @ 20/02/2013, 01:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
A puppy that age should be inside with constant supervision. Really he should still be with his mum and litter mates. He's probably scared and missing the physical contact. sad.gif


You can't help feeling sorry for the little mite, hey?  

But its not a matter of missing the contact, this little puppy hasn't actually had the opportunity to learn what he needs to about being a dog!


OP, maybe read this about your puppy: http://dogtime.com/puppy-behavior-basics-hsus.html
A few weeks ago your puppy was so new, they hadn't yet developed vision.  You're smack bang in the crucial socialisation stage - a puppy can't learn about being a dog if they aren't with their mum and litter sad.gif

#16 American-Pie.

Posted 20 February 2013 - 04:10 PM

He is inside constantly with me, in the car with me all the time and sleeps with me in the bed so he can hear my heart beat etc. He is inside ALOT. When I take the older dog for a walk, I carry this dog in a baby sling.


I did get him very young and was going to wait until 9 weeks, until the 2 other dogs in the litter got killed by a Taipan, i didn't want to leave the dog there any longer.


When I lock them outside its probably for 45 minutes max. Other than that, they are inside ALOT. ALL THE TIME pretty much.


I appreciate your concern being that he is young, and separated, but figured this background info would help more now.

#17 ~Nodnol~

Posted 20 February 2013 - 05:14 PM

The only time a pup that young should be outside is to toilet and a play. Which you should be supervising. Then straight back inside. He is too small to be left for 45 minutes with a bigger dog.

IMO.

QUOTE
When I lock them outside its probably for 45 minutes max. Other than that, they are inside ALOT. ALL THE TIME pretty much.

Edited by ~Nodnol~, 20 February 2013 - 05:15 PM.





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