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#1 3mummy3

Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:10 AM

ok this might be a stupid question but just how exactly do you use the public bus service these days in melbourne?
When i was at school/uni i regularly caught the bus and just either bought a weekly bus ticket or just paid the daily fare on the bus.

Now there is this new myki system and im a bit lost!

Some of you might have seen a previous thread of mine regarding a complicated scool run set up shared with a freind. Now on advice from some  posters in that thread i have decided  my two highschool boys will start going to school and back on the bus. Unfortunately the school bus is full so we will need to use public system. Fortunately for the boys there is a stop just around the corner from home.

So now what do i do? I assume i need to get each of them a myki account, then just top up the money in there regularly. Do the boys then show this myki card to the bus driver when they get on? Do they also need some kind of school id card to get concession fares?

And just how much does bus travel cost for a 12 and 14 year old? We are in melbourne and our travel will be in zone 2 i think (berwick).

Any help would be appreciated!!!



#2 cward

Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:12 AM

OK I'm in Sydney so it might be a bit different but even using the public bus I'm pretty sure kids can still use their school bus pass if they are travelling to and from school and they live a certain distance from the school.  Have you checked if they are entitlted to free travel?

#3 3mummy3

Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:17 AM

QUOTE (cward @ 19/02/2013, 11:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
OK I'm in Sydney so it might be a bit different but even using the public bus I'm pretty sure kids can still use their school bus pass if they are travelling to and from school and they live a certain distance from the school.  Have you checked if they are entitlted to free travel?



As far as i know there is no free travel in melbourne? We would still have to pay to use the school bus if there was vacancies, i think $800 per family per year

#4 #YKG

Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:17 AM

go to your local train station with the boys, they need to present their consession card to get a concession myki, put money on both cards, when the boys get on the bus the put card on the scanner pad, it registers they find a seat, before getting off they touch off the same way they did when they got on.

You can top up at participating 7/11 stores and train stations, the cost of the card is $10.

#5 amanda79

Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:17 AM

Vic doesn't have free travel for students original.gif

Yep you need to buy a myki for the kids, there are concession mykis as well as full fare.  You can get myki money (works like a whole bunch of 2hr/daily tickets) or a myki pass (which works on what zone you're in etc).

Then when they get on the bus, they tap their card against the card reader.

#6 noi'mnot

Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:17 AM

Get them each a concession Myki card. They'll need to show proof of concession entitlement to get one, and to carry this proof with them whenever they're using the Myki. Keep it topped up.

When they get on the bus, they just tap the Myki on a special sensor. Check the website for details of fares.

It's really very simple, and a great way to get them using public transport and getting used to it as a way to get around.

#7 ma-ma

Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:20 AM

Is there a yearly ticket equivalent with myki? If not, this frequent travelling could get expensive!

I don't think it's a silly question op! This new system is all too confusing.

#8 #YKG

Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:25 AM

no yearly on myki, its daily & 2 hour, its not as bad as you think ma-ma, works out the same as it did on metcards.

In all honesty its not as confusing or difficult as it seems, its just taping on and off & the  balance appears on the screen so you can see when you need to top up. This option is myki money.

Myki pass you can purchase 7 day or 365 day but it will expire in 12 months irrespective of how many times you use it. If they arent using it on weekends the myki money may be more economical.

Edited by YellowKittyGlenn, 19 February 2013 - 11:28 AM.


#9 hellsmail

Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:25 AM

The boys are in high school they can get a student conessiion myki.  go to a train stain and get the form for the conession card, you will need two passport photos and get the school to stamp the photos.  cost $500 for a yearly travel pass and includes a student ID card which can bee used at the pictures etc.  this entitles them to travel on any tram train and bus in victoria.  $500 cos a lot but it will save over $200 for the year in travel costwhen comparing with a concession myki and can be used on weekends.  remember that they need to TOUCH not swipe both on and off the bus  This method means you never have to top up their card and is valid till the end of Feb 2014

#10 hellsmail

Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:27 AM

actually yellowKittyGlen there is yearly myki for students as I have just bought 2 and there are yearly for workers cos I can get one via work



#11 mindy05

Posted 19 February 2013 - 11:56 AM

OP, hellsmail is absolutely right. My DD gets her yearly myki every February. She now goes out on her own using buses, trams and trains, and never has to pay any extra. Makes it a lot easier during school holidays when she can go out without relying on me for a lift. You will need 2 passport size photos. DD uses some of the small photos from the previous year's school photos. We just cut them down to size. Metro trains don't seem to be as fussy as the passport office and don't care if you're smiling or not. Go to your local manned railway station and ask for a form. Fill it out, attach the photos and drop the form in at the school to get it signed at the office. Then take it back to the station, hand over the money and they will make the card up on the spot.

#12 jojonbeanie

Posted 19 February 2013 - 01:01 PM

http://www.myki.com.au/About-myki/Students/Students

Did you even bother to try the Myki website?

#13 Bam1

Posted 19 February 2013 - 01:07 PM

Why don't you save yourself time and ask your children to investigate cost, the best route etc themselves.  

I've never had to worry about how the system works for students as my children have always worked it out (catching public transport since primary school)

#14 3mummy3

Posted 19 February 2013 - 01:37 PM

Thanks for all the replies, especially hellsmail and mindy05 for spelling it all out for me!!!

I definately like the idea of the cheaper school concession yearly passes but not sure if we have the $1000 outlay available in our budget at the moment. Will look into it.

Thanks for the link Jojobean, in fact i didnt 'even bother' looking at the myki website. I did however look at the MET website and got confused so decided to ask here instead! Will go look now though thanks.

Bam1 you make an excellent point and have got me really thinking about how i parent my teens!

#15 mindy05

Posted 19 February 2013 - 02:17 PM

If you, or your boys are wondering about the best way to get PT to school, you can use the Metro website's trip planner. Just put your starting and finishing point in, and it will tell you the fastest way to get there.

#16 MegzG

Posted 19 February 2013 - 02:24 PM

you will need to go to Dandenong Station i think as i don't think Berwick (and definately not Beacy) stations are manned stations

#17 hellsmail

Posted 19 February 2013 - 02:25 PM

3mummy3 I tell everyone I know about the student cards as not many people know about them.  Not much help now but Since my kids have been in grade 5 I put $20 a week away for high school stuff and with the government hand out for school kids I always have lots of money for school uniforms books and the travel card maybe its something you can consider for next year.  Also don't forget we get more money in june and you can get 6 month cards which will be valid till next feb.  I actually have enough money from my older son to pay for his 18th party this weekend

#18 BabeBlossom

Posted 19 February 2013 - 07:13 PM

Berwick station has been manned the few times I have used it.




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