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#1 SilverSky

Posted 18 February 2013 - 02:05 PM

Would you consider adding a *tiny* amount of milo to a bottle of formula to see if baby will take it?

Baby is 8 months old and refuses formula and cows milk but drinks water from a bottle. I can't express any more than 20mls at a time. I need to be away for a night and am worried baby won't settle without a tummy full of milk. Add separation anxiety on top of that and I'm very worried!

Do I need a flame suit on?

#2 bikingbubs

Posted 18 February 2013 - 02:07 PM

No i wouldnt.

#3 ~kacee~

Posted 18 February 2013 - 02:08 PM

Flame suit: yes, milo: no.

#4 Frockme

Posted 18 February 2013 - 02:09 PM

No. Don't do it. You'll end up having to add it every time she has one or she won't take the bottle, so back to square one. Not good for teeth or anything really.

I think you need to persevere getting her to take it. Don't give in. Maybe make up a bottle, then add breast milk to the top so it smells like BM and may taste like it at first too.

Change formulas?

#5 her mum

Posted 18 February 2013 - 02:12 PM

I'd say no.

Theoretically your 8 month old doesn't know what Milo tastes like any more than they know what formula tastes like so it's not going to be something that they automatically recognise as a pleasant addition.

If they're on solids and you want to try to change the flavour, could you maybe add a little pureed fruit to the bottle, or some carrot or something?

I definitely wouldn't go Milo though. It has a heap of sugar and you really don't want to have to get into a situation where you're adding it to every bottle as that can't be good for your little one's health.

It might be different when you're away too, but I would definitely add something fresh before I tried Milo.

#6 jules77

Posted 18 February 2013 - 02:18 PM

No I wouldn't.

A the end of the day, it's only one night. If your baby just ends up having solids and water it won't hurt. If they are unsettled for the one night, it won't hurt either- might be tiring for whoever is looking after bub but they will be ok.

#7 Bluenomi

Posted 18 February 2013 - 02:20 PM

I suspect it is the bottle he's refusing. DD hated the bottle. Didn't matter if it was EBM, formula, cows milk, she just hated the bottle. Adding something like milo wouldn't have helped.

Either start expressing more (which I know is easier said than done since I never got more than 30mls a session myself) or don't leave him for the night.

#8 stressnless9

Posted 18 February 2013 - 02:22 PM

I wouldn't give Milo!

my baby is almost 1 now and i make choc & banana smoothies with raw cacao that he drinks out of a sippee cup because im trying to get him to not have so much formula! he loves it and its very healthy.

#9 elizabethany

Posted 18 February 2013 - 02:23 PM

First off, are you planning on weaning off BM at this point?  If you want to continue to BF, I would try to express more, even though I know it is difficult.

If you want to move to formula, you can try other brands, as they all smell and taste different, and you can add BM to the formula to make it more appealing.

I found that the swapover time, while DS was getting both BM and Formula, he was very unsettled, and didn't want either the bottle of the breast.  He was much happier when it was one or the other full time.

I would not consider adding anything else to the bottle.  You could have breakfast cereal or rice cereal with formula for meals to help them get used to the taste as well.

If this is only for one night, I would try to stock up small feeds of BM beforehand, at 8 months it is more the soothing feeling of sucking that they want, rather than a full feed.

#10 YodaTheWrinkledOne

Posted 18 February 2013 - 02:27 PM

QUOTE (familyequalslove @ 18/02/2013, 02:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Would you consider adding a *tiny* amount of milo to a bottle of formula to see if baby will take it?

Baby is 8 months old and refuses formula and cows milk but drinks water from a bottle. I can't express any more than 20mls at a time. I need to be away for a night and am worried baby won't settle without a tummy full of milk. Add separation anxiety on top of that and I'm very worried!

Do I need a flame suit on?

No, I wouldn't do that

And yes, you probably will need a flame suit.

Build up your expressed milk into a decent amount.  Sure, it might take you a few times, but you do what you gotta do

#11 Marchioness Flea

Posted 18 February 2013 - 02:28 PM

Possibly try someone else giving the bottle as well. He can probably smell milk on you which is why he won't take a bottle from you.
Try a sippy cup.
Try someone else giving it in a cup.

#12 Quirk

Posted 18 February 2013 - 02:28 PM

Another one who thinks it is the bottle, rather than the milk/formula/ebm.

Both my two boys refused bottles of EBM, but would take a bottle of water no probs. I figure they associated getting breastmilk with a cuddle, not coming out of a bottle from Dad!

Try a sippy cup, or even a straw cup. Failing that, it's one night, at 8 months he will be fine.

#13 Feral_Pooks

Posted 18 February 2013 - 02:29 PM

Could you try giving him formula in a Sippy cup? Or, mix BM with formula?

And if it were for one night only, and nothing else was working, yes I would add milo. I'd probably resort to just about anything that would make him sick or dead. Baby custard with BM/formula mixed in?

Or, another thought is to give him some yoghurt or try cow's milk, for ONE night I don't think it would do any damage.

You could try giving the caregiver clothing you have worn with your scent on it, and they can hold it next to baby while he feeds.

Good luck.

#14 noi'mnot

Posted 18 February 2013 - 02:30 PM

Who has been giving the bottle? Often if mum is around they refuse a bottle outright. Leave the house and get somebody else to give the baby the bottle/cup/sippy cup/whatever.

Is there an alternative to you being away? Can you take the baby with you?

I could also only express 20-30mls at a time. But, if I did that once a day for a week that is at least 140mls, which should be a pretty good start! Can you try something like this? How soon do you have to be away?

As PPs said, you can also try different brands of formulas, different temperatures, etc.

I would never give milo in a bottle personally.

Good luck, I hope you find a suitable solution soon!

#15 liveworkplay

Posted 18 February 2013 - 02:35 PM

No. From experience, if she is hungry enough, she will drink formula if you are not there. I found that the one of mine who had the occasional formula due to my shift work, took to Bellamy's Organic formula really easily. My mum, who has tasted a lot of different brands due to her quirk of never giving a child anything she hasn't tasted herself (hygienically of course wink.gif ) thought it was actually quite pleasant tasting unlike a lot of them.

Edited by liveworkplay, 18 February 2013 - 05:13 PM.

#16 EsmeLennox

Posted 18 February 2013 - 02:35 PM

No I wouldn't.

#17 greatwon2

Posted 18 February 2013 - 02:36 PM

I'd try it  ph34r.gif

Can't believe that someone suggested not leaving as an alternative to a teeny bit of Milo..it's not poison lol

I'm thinking it probably wouldn't work tho op , formula has such a strong flavor (and stinks) that a little bit or even a lot of Milo won't cover the taste if that's what your baby's objecting to. It's expensive but could you perhaps try a few different brands of formula and see if you can find one they will have a drink of?

Edited to add a few words i missed out lol

Edited by greatwon2, 18 February 2013 - 02:40 PM.

#18 Theboys&me

Posted 18 February 2013 - 02:36 PM

Maybe get dad to give the bottle. As pp said, bub can smell your milk and associates the two with bf.

Or, try milk in a sippy cup. Some bf babes will take a cup but no bottle.

#19 Fright bat

Posted 18 February 2013 - 02:37 PM

Boo to all of you.

I conviced mine to learn how to drink from a bottle by putting juice in it. No, he didn't demand it every time. No, his teeth didn't rot from one bottle of juice. No, he's not addicted to sugar.

So, yes, I would would milo or chocolate or anything in a bottle to convince a baby to drink it as a ONCE OFF.

As for the PP who said a baby has no pleasurable feelins associated with milo so it won't work - what a dumb thing to say. Milo is objectively delicious. We don't drink it for some strange association, we drink it cos it tastes good.

As an aside, if bub still won't take a bottle, try a banana smoothie in a refillable squeezie pouch.

#20 niggles

Posted 18 February 2013 - 02:41 PM

I'd fill baby up with other palatable things before I'd put Milo in the bottle.

I'd also try a very plain, tip and it'll spill out type sippy cup. It's all my son will drink milk from. He'll drink water from anything. Loves water. But milk he can take or leave and so the sippy cup is easiest. The cheap Sistema ones from the supermarket are great and last for years.

#21 Ice Queen

Posted 18 February 2013 - 02:43 PM

No.. I would try many many things before this!

#22 Tesseract

Posted 18 February 2013 - 02:51 PM

I had the same problem. DD refused anything in a bottle/sippy, even breastmilk. Eventually we found a sippy cup with a very soft spout on it that she took to and she'd accept breastmilk from that.

You might also find that she takes it from someone else when you're not in the house.

As far as expressing 20ml in one go, that's not necessarily a problem. If you do that twice a day for a week you're going to get enough for an evening out. Bubs probably won't drink that much anyway.

Baby will be fine on water and solids for one night anyway. If bubs wakes up hungry then the carer can give yoghurt or avocado or whatever, plus water. But I think you'll find they'll be fine.

#23 liveworkplay

Posted 18 February 2013 - 02:57 PM

Milo is objectively delicious.

sick.gif Milo is a disgusting, insipid malt chocolate flavour. I have never liked it.

As for the PP who said a baby has no pleasurable feelins associated with milo so it won't work - what a dumb thing to say

Sorry, how do you think we get conditioned to wanting sugar and salt in our foods? My eldest didn't eat chocolate until she was well after 2 yrs old. Not because we forbade it, because she had never been exposed to it as a younger child and so did not associate it as "yummy" Put a bunch or coriander or basil in front of her though laughing2.gif

#24 Gegemite

Posted 18 February 2013 - 03:50 PM

I added a couple of drops of pure vanilla extract to formula when my DD started bottles to make it a little tastier. Maybe try that?

Edited to change essence to extract. Has to be the real stuff.

Edited by Gegemite, 18 February 2013 - 03:52 PM.

#25 ednaboo

Posted 18 February 2013 - 04:16 PM

Op I was in your position once.  About to head back to work part time, I was going to be away for 10 hours and my 10mo refused to drink from anything.  He was still having 3-4 BF a day at that point.  I even considered milo!  In the end, I expressed as much as I could and got the babysitter to spoon a bit to him, or mix it with his solids.  This was all he would take.  He didn't really start drinking from a cup until he as about 14 months old, and then it was only diluted juice.  

Anyhow, if you're only out for one evening, I wouldn't even worry about it.  Just get the babysitter to give some solids with water added, like pureed fruit and/or baby custard.  I was worried my bub wouldn't go to sleep at night without that evening feed but he was fine!

Edited by ednaboo, 18 February 2013 - 04:18 PM.

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