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#1 *RockTot*

Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:54 AM

My friend just posted this on her FB page.

MMR vaccine/Autism link confirmed in Breaking news today  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mmVzXnPrvc...eature=youtu.be

I havent had time to watch it all yet, but I'm wondering what you all think?

(I hope this isnt a can of worms I'm opening)

Edited by Therese, 18 February 2013 - 03:05 PM.


#2 Rachel70

Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:59 AM

I don't the Andrew Wakefield is someone I am willing to listen to or trust.


#3 Water Dragon

Posted 18 February 2013 - 12:01 PM

I haven't watched it yet but just wanted to say, yeppers, I bet you've opened a can of worms. Be ready for this thread to get ugly!  rolleyes.gif

#4 Water Dragon

Posted 18 February 2013 - 12:04 PM

There's so much bunkum out there that videos like this (I watched the first few minutes and gave up - super unprofessional and silly) make me very cranky. I don't vax to the schedule but made an informed decision to do that; I didn't form an opinion by watching videos like this.

#5 Paddlepop

Posted 18 February 2013 - 12:49 PM

Andrew Wakefield wouldn't know how to conduct ethical, unbiased research if it bit him on the bum.

He is no longer a doctor. His medical board removed him from their register.

The journal that published his "breakthrough" fully retracted their publication of it.

This man should be ignored on anything do with vaccines and autism.

ETA Yes OP, definitely a can of worms!

Edited by Paddlepop, 18 February 2013 - 12:49 PM.


#6 Zarlias

Posted 18 February 2013 - 12:50 PM

Reading the comments posted under that video made me want to throw things.

Why do we give this stuff air time?

#7 raone

Posted 18 February 2013 - 12:56 PM

They want to hang people! That really makes me want to believe what you are saying... not!

If you are going to try to prove something perhaps you should leave the death threats at home. rant.gif

#8 purplekitty

Posted 18 February 2013 - 12:58 PM

I only watched 30 seconds before multiple alarm bells sounded.
Alex Jones,Infowars,Mike Adams and Andrew Wakefield.

None of them are trustworthy and the legitimate autism sites shun them.

Alex Jones and Infowars
"Jones has been the center of many controversies, such as the one surrounding his actions and statements about gun control after the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting,[18] and has accused the US government of being involved in the Oklahoma City bombing[19], the September 11 attacks[20], and faking the Moon landings.[21] He asserts that the US government is run by a global conspiracy of cultists who believe that by using the drug DMT they can contact interdimensional aliens called "clockwork elves".

#9 raone

Posted 18 February 2013 - 01:01 PM

And I hope this doesn't upset any parents of kids with autism, but I personally would rather a beautiful autistic child than a dead one. Or the potential to kill or harm someone. Thats what I don't get even if it were true why would you expose your or someone elses child to possible death?

#10 IamzFeralz

Posted 18 February 2013 - 01:29 PM

QUOTE (*RockTot* @ 18/02/2013, 12:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My friend just posted this on her FB page.

MMR vaccine/Autism link confirmed in Breaking news today  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mmVzXnPrvc...eature=youtu.be

I havent had time to watch it all yet, but I'm wondering what you all think?

(I hope this isnt a can of worms I'm opening)



I just googled "MMR + Autism + vaccines" in Google news to see if other newspapers/TV stations etc were reporting this and making mention of a new peer reviewed study just out  that we could check out but......nada.

rolleyes.gif

Maybe this thread should be moved out of the special needs section?  


#11 Feral_Pooks

Posted 18 February 2013 - 01:55 PM

Omg I just realized this is in the SN section sad.gif

Not cool.

#12 BetteBoop

Posted 18 February 2013 - 01:56 PM

The title should have an alleged in it, no matter where it goes.

#13 Feral_Pooks

Posted 18 February 2013 - 01:59 PM

Flick to 32:27 and you will see a cartoon of President Obama stylized to look like the devil.

Seems legit.

#14 protart roflcoptor

Posted 18 February 2013 - 02:00 PM

I could google up a thousand more videos on conspiracy theories that would carry just as much weight as that one.

Why start a thread about it?



#15 Water Dragon

Posted 18 February 2013 - 02:13 PM

QUOTE (Pooks_fembo @ 18/02/2013, 02:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Flick to 32:27 and you will see a cartoon of President Obama stylized to look like the devil.

Seems legit.


roll2.gif

I think this is a troll thread, honestly. There is no discussion to be had of this.

#16 Therese

Posted 18 February 2013 - 02:33 PM

I have closed this for review.

I have moved this, and changed the thread title as there is not a confirmed scientific link between MMR and Autism. It has been moved to Misc as it is more appropriate there.

I know this is a really emotive topic but please remember forum rules when posting.

#17 Cat People

Posted 18 February 2013 - 03:56 PM

Lord I can't believe I wasted 10 minutes on it.  I gave up when the host said even Donald Trump spoke of staff members who vax'ed their kids, and BANG, next day they were autistic... and it happens ALL the time.

And then he went on to say he donated to the Gun Owners Association of America.

The whole thing - which I admittedly couldn't finish - was FULL of conspiracy theories.  I support parents' right to not vax, but I do not support that sort of "information" being passed off as facts.

#18 Cat People

Posted 18 February 2013 - 04:12 PM

QUOTE (Back2Insanity @ 18/02/2013, 04:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I wasted 30 secs.  roll2.gif
As soon as I saw the name, I clicked the cross


You should have stuck around to read the comments.  Apparently ASD didn't exist before vaccinations, and neither did cancer?!  The government wants all to have ASD and cancer because....?  They didn't explain that bit.


#19 baddmammajamma

Posted 18 February 2013 - 04:13 PM


Not even going to waste my time opening the link..I think Wakefield should be behind bars for the damage that he has done around the world.

(Pooks, I bet Fox news will find some way to tie the uptick in autism diagnoses with President Obama's time in office  rolleyes.gif )

If any of my "friends" on FB shared this crap as "breaking news," I'd be de-friending!

#20 Beancat

Posted 18 February 2013 - 04:18 PM

QUOTE (Back2Insanity @ 18/02/2013, 01:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Dr Andrew Wakefields theories have all been disproven many times.

Some information on him
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Wakefield

He was banned from practised medicine after it was discovered that he falsified his study. So no I will not be listening to anything this person has to say.


Exactly.  And The Lancet (the peer reviewed journal that originally published his work) retracted his publication a couple of years ago.

This man is a fraud and dangerous

#21 cheekymonkeysmum

Posted 18 February 2013 - 04:30 PM

Omg this again doesn't this come out like a couple of times a yr.

I don't know who Wakefield is but seriously can people not think some children have ASD and some don't and just because some children have the symptoms of ASD after the 18 month shots can't it just be a coincidence otherwise every child who's had that vaccine would have ASD.

My son didn't start to have the quirks/symptoms of ASD till 2 and a half and he had the 18 month shot at 18 months a it took a yr to take hold?? I doubt it.

My beautiful son has ASD because that's the way he is and I would never Blame anything because I would never want to blame anyone/anything for my son being so beautiful caring delightful and affectionate.

Edited by cheekymonkeysmum, 18 February 2013 - 04:31 PM.


#22 codygirl

Posted 18 February 2013 - 04:40 PM

Really? We have to do this again? Really?






#23 PrincessPeach

Posted 18 February 2013 - 04:47 PM

Wasn't there a recent discovery of a test that could detect Autism from about 6 months of age?

#24 blackbird

Posted 18 February 2013 - 04:48 PM

QUOTE (Back2Insanity @ 18/02/2013, 01:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Dr Andrew Wakefields theories have all been disproven many times.

Some information on him
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Wakefield

He was banned from practised medicine after it was discovered that he falsified his study. So no I will not be listening to anything this person has to say.


This.

My son is autistic, he was at birth not that I realized at the time I just thought he got over stimulated easy and was independent.

Oh and we had no idea until he was 5 and we only were concerned about his speech really, I felt socially awkward growing up sometimes and thought maybe he was just a bit like me, apparently I was have had aspergers lol oh well, and I never had that vaccination till a teenagers if I had it at all

Edited by blackbird, 18 February 2013 - 04:52 PM.


#25 Madnesscraves

Posted 18 February 2013 - 04:54 PM

The video link should be removed. There's no need to scare parents or spread the word of this stupid video.




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