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#1 miss_heidi

Posted 17 February 2013 - 04:25 PM

I was reading that EPO and raspberry leaf tea are recommended in the latter weeks of the third trimester to assist with labour.

So I went out and bought some EPO tablets, and then read an article that says that EPO in fact is NOT recommended in late pregnancy as it can increase the risk of waters breaking with no progression of labour.

Which is the correct advice?! Now I'm very confused....

Also can anyone advise on the recommended dose for both EPO and RLT, and when they should be started? (Ie how many weeks pregnancy)

I don't intend to use the EPO internally, just orally...

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PS I'm almost 35 weeks pregnant



#2 spear_maiden

Posted 17 February 2013 - 05:13 PM

Hi

Sorry can't help with the EPO.  With the tea, didn't have it with DS but thought I'd give it a go this time around.

I was told to begin drinking the tea at no earlier than 36 weeks.  Start with one cup per day and slowly build up to three or four apparently.  I had my first cup at about 37
weeks and not sure if it was psychosomatic or what, but I definitely felt the BHs that day.  I stopped drinking it after a couple of days just in case the more frequent BHs turned into something and I decided 37 weeks was a little early for me lol but now I'm 38 +2 and have started again.

cheers.

#3 miss_heidi

Posted 18 February 2013 - 06:20 AM

Interesting, thanks studybug original.gif


Anyone else know of its ok to take EPO and when?


#4 livvie7586

Posted 18 February 2013 - 06:28 AM

later in pregnancy you don't take the EPO, you insert it original.gif  and i wouldn't do it until at least 36 weeks





#5 noi'mnot

Posted 18 February 2013 - 08:22 AM

There's really mixed advice about RLT. I've been told at my local health food shop that one cup from 12 weeks, up to 2 cups from about 26 weeks and 3 cups per day from 32 weeks is ok, but others have said start at 32 weeks. My midwife was happy for me to start 1 per day from before 32 weeks, gradually building up to 3 per day from 36. You can also get tablets. One complicating factor is that different brands of RLT have different amounts in it, so again it's complicated. I'm not sure if there's a consensus on what to do. I'm 34 weeks and it does give me braxton hicks contractions, but nothing too bad and only for a wee while after drinking it. I started noticing BH from about 20 weeks and I don't really think that the tea has increased them too much, they're happening anyway.

I think EPO is after 36 weeks, some people insert it and some take it orally but I'm not sure of the dosage, I'm waiting for my 36 week appt to ask my midwife, that's when I'll start on it. I've never hear of it causing waters to break (but I may be wrong). My understanding is that as it contains prostaglandins, it's used to ripen the cervix.

Can you ask your care providers? Some are less enthusiastic about such methods, but they may be able to give you an idea. I'm sure that some more EBers will be in soon with more concrete advice too.

Good luck! original.gif

#6 redmum77

Posted 18 February 2013 - 08:23 AM

Not sure on EPO, but RRLT can't bring on labour, but will get your uterous practicing! I took very strong doses on infusions from at least 33 weeks with the last two, and both were 10 days late. I knew they would be late anyway, but the births were very good and they even remarked that I had a toned uterous original.gif it reduces down more efficiantly too, so that helps to stop bleeding. Study bugs advice is good, to work up to a higher dose, then you can get used to the changes and not shock your body too much. BH can get tiring.

I'm interested to hear about inserting EPO - really? Is this to help with the cervix? Hmm... Gee I'd love to not go late this time!

#7 ~kuddlebug~

Posted 18 February 2013 - 08:38 AM

I started one cup a day of RLT at 33-34 weeks I think, increasing to two after 36 and 3 from 38. I started the EPO at about 36 weeks, one a day orally and then one orally, one inserted from 38 and increased to 2 inserted (morning and night) from 39w. I was induced at 39w3d and my cervix was favourable.

#8 againagain

Posted 18 February 2013 - 09:23 AM

I have drunk RLT in the third trimester of each of my pregnancies. I was always told to start with one cup a day and build up to 3 or 4 cups. If you have an irritable uterus or any problems don't take it.

I also took EPO orally in the third trimester of my last pregnancy. I recall my midwife giving me a handout on it, saying it was safe enough to take etc....can't for the life of me remember what it was meant to do  laughing2.gif something about prostaglandins and ripening cervixes or so forth.

None of these things will 'make' you go in to labour, I went overdue with all three of mine (by quite a bit) but the labours were straight forward and not too bad. RLT is also meant to be good after the birth for contracting the uterus back down.

#9 BBV

Posted 18 February 2013 - 04:43 PM

Is there anything I should look for with regards to raspberry leaf tea?! Or are the tablets better?

#10 livvie7586

Posted 18 February 2013 - 04:49 PM

QUOTE (redmum77 @ 18/02/2013, 09:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm interested to hear about inserting EPO - really? Is this to help with the cervix? Hmm... Gee I'd love to not go late this time!


Don't count on it helping, i did it religiously with DD and she was 8 days overdue, exactly the same as her brother (although DS was a 71 hour labour and DD was 8, so it may have helped with that, but definitely didn't make her arrive any earlier)

#11 Chief Pancake Make

Posted 18 February 2013 - 04:53 PM

I took EPO when I was TTC it  - it gave me the runs.  I know COD liver oil etc work by irritating the uterus (and GI tract) and from what I have read the stomach upsets and gastro are not worth the effort.

#12 redmum77

Posted 18 February 2013 - 06:00 PM

BBV- loose leaf, where you can actually see the leaf not just dust, is the best and strongest rrl. I used to buy it at the local organic food store, they had lots of loose teas and it was one. I had it strong, nearly black/licorice colour. I think it really helped, my sister had three very long, traumatic, labours and slow recoveries, so that's my gene comparison! I'm not having any this time on purpose, third labour and things are working very well there now (loads of BH for a long time and with the ibs I think it might cause more damage than good!). Hth

#13 fionah

Posted 18 February 2013 - 06:13 PM

I can't remember the doses or exact dates of when I started taking supplements but with my second pregnancy I took EPO orally & inserted & also raspberry leaf tablets. I am pretty sure I began the oral stuff at about 34 weeks and the insertion at about 37 weeks.
First baby born at 40w exactly, failed vacuum, forceps & episiotomy delivery. Waters broke 2 days before delivery & ended up being put on a syntocin drip to speed up labour. Had pethidine & gas for pain relief. Needed a catheter for 24 hours post delivery as my bladder/urethra refused to allow urine to pass.

Second baby delivered at 39+2. Labour was quick, no pain relief. I did have an episiotomy again, but otherwise everything went well. It was such a different experience.

Good luck,

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