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#1 Mitis angelam

Posted 16 February 2013 - 06:43 PM

Anyone?

I did my first paid work in eight months today - was wonderful (despite the heat)!

#2 i-candi

Posted 16 February 2013 - 06:47 PM

Awesome !!!!!


Me, I've started and haven't even served dinner (whoops). I was so bored today that I couldn't be bothered cooking until late !

I needed the rest, I've started a new job where I don't sit and it is very hard work which I love love love. after two weeks I'm not used to sitting lol

#3 Mitis angelam

Posted 16 February 2013 - 07:13 PM

So what are you doing, i-candi?

(I couldn't be bothered cooking either.  Indian take away it was!)

#4 blackcat20

Posted 16 February 2013 - 07:24 PM

I wish! My mum, aunt and uncle have polished off three bottles already. I'd love to partake, but given my aunt just told me I've gained weight since Christmas (I haven't), it's probably a good thing I'm doing FebFast...

#5 Lucrezia Borgia

Posted 16 February 2013 - 07:26 PM

Hi!

I'm in...

Yay for work AV!  Were you delivering a sermon ....you are a minister aren't you? Or lecturing? Sorry ...I feel I should know this...


I am in in law hell...of my own making .....they are doing me a favour, but I'm struggling!

Edited by Lucretia Borgia, 16 February 2013 - 07:26 PM.


#6 i-candi

Posted 16 February 2013 - 07:38 PM

QUOTE (Ange Vert @ 16/02/2013, 08:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So what are you doing, i-candi?

(I couldn't be bothered cooking either.  Indian take away it was!)


I'm a school learning support officer (teacher aide) in a special ed primary class (high needs). We have kinder kids and are just trying to settle them into school. Totally awesome school and job, working with amazing people. I'm learning day by day and I'm so happy.

#7 Mitis angelam

Posted 16 February 2013 - 07:39 PM

QUOTE (Lucretia Borgia @ 16/02/2013, 08:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yay for work AV!  Were you delivering a sermon ....you are a minister aren't you? Or lecturing? Sorry ...I feel I should know this...


I'm studying to be a minister.  Nah, I was just being a verger for a wedding.  And the stupid electronic bell system chose today to play up, so I couldn't even ring the bells properly for them!

#8 Lucrezia Borgia

Posted 16 February 2013 - 07:46 PM

QUOTE (Ange Vert @ 16/02/2013, 08:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm studying to be a minister.  Nah, I was just being a verger for a wedding.  And the stupid electronic bell system chose today to play up, so I couldn't even ring the bells properly for them!

Ah...these things happen....

I-candi that sounds like a great job!

Blackcat20... I wish I could do FebFast!

My in laws are down...they minded DS2 as I had to work a couple of days last week and our nanny broke her ankle! Nasty break, has a cast on it ..on crutches.....etc etc....so MIL and her husband came down, it's very generous of them...drove all the way to Sydney from Tamworth ...I do appreciate it, but yeh....

....I'm having a few drinks tonight!

#9 Lucrezia Borgia

Posted 16 February 2013 - 07:50 PM

Ange I had to google "verger"  blush.gif


#10 Paddlepop

Posted 16 February 2013 - 07:54 PM

I bought a new washing machine today. My current one needs to be fixed AGAIN and I'm sick of putting money into it. It's only 6 years old and has had at least 4 or 5 repairs. They have all been under warranty except for the last one in July that cost $313.

I figured that for the minimum $300 it was going to cost to repair it I may as well spend $600 and get a brand new one with a 5 year extended warranty. New machine arrives on Monday. I nearly bought a new fridge too.

Apart from that, I spent the day researching washing machines and fridges on the internet, and entertaining the 3yo. And I shaved my legs.

Now the 3 of us are in the lounge together and watching 'Bondi Vet'. Very exciting here!

Lucretia Borgia Ouch! Your poor nanny! I badly sprained both of my ankles and had a hairline fracture in one in December and that was painful enough. The ankle that had the fracture still hurts and is still healing. How long will your nanny need to be off work for?

#11 i-candi

Posted 16 February 2013 - 07:56 PM

QUOTE (Lucretia Borgia @ 16/02/2013, 08:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ange I had to google "verger"  blush.gif



So did I !!!

I grew up as a Roman Catholic and sent DS to a RC high school. He hasn't had any exposure to RC and did really well in his religious studies in the RC school. We changed schools as DS didn't settle well and have sent him to an Anglican high school.

I have no idea the difference between RC and Anglican except for who is the head of the church lol. I apologised to DS and told him he will learn quickly lol. Only thing is that the Anglican school has very few religious studies classes whereas the RC school had them nearly every day!

#12 i-candi

Posted 16 February 2013 - 07:59 PM

QUOTE (Lucretia Borgia @ 16/02/2013, 08:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My in laws are down...they minded DS2 as I had to work a couple of days last week and our nanny broke her ankle! Nasty break, has a cast on it ..on crutches.....etc etc....so MIL and her husband came down, it's very generous of them...drove all the way to Sydney from Tamworth ...I do appreciate it, but yeh....

....I'm having a few drinks tonight!


Yikes!!! you'll need a few!

#13 Mitis angelam

Posted 16 February 2013 - 08:03 PM

QUOTE (Lucretia Borgia @ 16/02/2013, 08:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ange I had to google "verger"  blush.gif


Don't worry, even the tax office doesn't know what we are.  Oh, and my sympathies on the in-laws situation - I'd be struggling to be gracious too!

QUOTE (i-candi @ 16/02/2013, 08:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I have no idea the difference between RC and Anglican except for who is the head of the church lol. I apologised to DS and told him he will learn quickly lol. Only thing is that the Anglican school has very few religious studies classes whereas the RC school had them nearly every day!


We're pretty close.  The biggest differences you'll see in most places are that Anglicans ordain women, we have a much more democratic governance structure, and we don't do things like the rosary or praying to saints.

#14 Lucrezia Borgia

Posted 16 February 2013 - 08:04 PM

paddlepop ...that sounds like a very full day! She broke it three weeks ago, so she has been off it since then. She saw the dr this week and the cast is off now, she thinks maybe two weeks and she'll be ok ...I hope so! She's looking after DS2 who is 1, not quite walking, I don't really mind if she holds off getting out and about with him ....but even so, our house has a lot of stairs!

I- candi....yes, I am having a few!


#15 Lucrezia Borgia

Posted 16 February 2013 - 08:17 PM

QUOTE (Ange Vert @ 16/02/2013, 09:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We're pretty close.  The biggest differences you'll see in most places are that Anglicans ordain women, we have a much more democratic governance structure, and we don't do things like the rosary or praying to saints.

You might be able to help a long standing marital dispute here in this household ...(not a serious one!) ...transubstantiation ...? I have always  been of the impression it was an RC doctrine, Protestants and C of E don't subscribe to it, but rather think the blood given at communion is symbolic (I may have the terminology wrong here....if so I apologise)...DH was raised catholic, he is very lapsed though! He thinks that communion in a RC church is only symbolic of the blood of Christ...I thought in Roman Catholic doctrine it was something more?

Heavy stuff for a sat night.....sorry!


#16 Mitis angelam

Posted 16 February 2013 - 08:29 PM

Okay, you asked.   wink.gif

Transubstantiation is a Roman Catholic doctrine.  It is an attempt to explain believers' subjective experience of the presence of Christ in the Eucharist, in terms of the scientific/metaphysical understanding of the world prevailing in about the twelfth century (neo-Aristotelian/Christian synthesis).  In these terms, the physical substance of the bread and wine cease to be truly bread and wine, and become truly the body and blood of Christ.  

It is problematic today not because believers no longer experience Christ in the Eucharist, but because we no longer make sense of the world in neo-Aristotelian terms, but the Roman Catholic church has adopted the position that that explanation is correct and is unwilling to move away from it.

Some Protestants (Anglicans, Lutherans, Calvinists and their heirs) still hold that Christ is present to the believer in the Eucharist, but don't tie that belief to an explanation in terms of transubstantiation.  I think this is also true of the Orthodox, who have quite different terminology for their experience of Christ in the Eucharist.

Some other Protestants (the intellectual heirs of Zwingli, largely now found I think in denominations like the Baptists and Churches of Christ), do not believe that Christ is particularly present to the believer in the Eucharist, and will talk about communion as memorial or symbol.

Some others again, like the Salvation Army or the Society of Friends (Quakers) no longer practise communion at all.

#17 i-candi

Posted 16 February 2013 - 08:34 PM

I was always brought up to believe that the blood and body of Christ is the Eucharist. Have no idea what the real words are lol !!!

I should ask DS what he understands, he really enjoyed religion lessons even though he said he didn't believe - go figure.

#18 Lucrezia Borgia

Posted 16 February 2013 - 08:39 PM

Ah thank you! It's interesting...

And sorry I meant the "wine" given at communion ...clearly they don't offer blood!

I was raised Presbyterian ...well, I went to a Presbyterian school ...we never really went to church....as far as I know they didn't give communion ...I don't remember it being given anyway.....

The first time I went to church with DH ...it was one of his cousins getting married ...it was a catholic nuptial mass ...I was very confused with all the crossing, genuflecting (sp?) ...then they got to the Lords Prayer and I thought ha! I know this...so started reciting it, but to my embarrassment us Presbyterians had tacked on this bit at the end ...so the entire congregation had stopped and I was bellowing out "for thine is the kingdom, the power and the glory..." ...people were turning their heads ..."there's a Protestant in our midst!" ...very embarrassing ....

Edited by Lucretia Borgia, 16 February 2013 - 08:40 PM.


#19 Coffeegirl

Posted 16 February 2013 - 08:41 PM

Wow Ange.  I just learned more in one post that I did in 8 years of RC schooling original.gif

Was DH's birthday so we went out for dinner.  I had a glass of nice French champeers and a 1/2 glass of pinot noir as I was driving.

DH is now finding a movie for us to watch and I think I'll open a bottle of white.

Have been pretty good woth my diet and exercise for the past few weeks, so can afford a night off.



Without googling,  Verger is the bell ringer??    Let me google now.....

#20 Coffeegirl

Posted 16 February 2013 - 08:44 PM

Ok so I was wrong  blush.gif    I don't think that a verger is a paid position in the RC church.  From my experience it was a voluntary position usually helfd by someone who had been involved with the parish for a long time.


I was an alter-server in my heady youth!    Do they still have those?  I also remember the priest saying the service in latin in the mid 70's.



LB, we recited for 'thine is the power...' As well in our services?  So maybe just the parish that you attended.

Edited by Coffeegirl, 16 February 2013 - 08:47 PM.


#21 blackcat20

Posted 16 February 2013 - 08:51 PM

QUOTE (Lucretia Borgia @ 16/02/2013, 07:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Blackcat20... I wish I could do FebFast!


I'm actually finding it pretty easy.

#22 Mitis angelam

Posted 16 February 2013 - 09:02 PM

QUOTE (Coffeegirl @ 16/02/2013, 09:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Ok so I was wrong  blush.gif    I don't think that a verger is a paid position in the RC church.  From my experience it was a voluntary position usually helfd by someone who had been involved with the parish for a long time.

I was an alter-server in my heady youth!    Do they still have those?


It's not a paid position in most churches, just particularly big or wealthy ones.  You remember the guy doing cartwheels after the royal wedding?  He was a verger.

Yes, they still have servers.  Although I never did that till I got to college!

#23 Coffeegirl

Posted 16 February 2013 - 09:13 PM

I did it in grade school and I think we could apply from grade 4 onwards, so about 10?

We helped set the altar, prepare the host and chalice, light the candles before service and snuff them out after.  Assisted with the collection baskets too

We also lead the procession at the beginning of the service.   One in the middle, about 2 steps ahead, who carried a cross, then two slightly behind who carried candles, then the priest.

Was a huge honour to be chosen.


#24 madmother

Posted 16 February 2013 - 09:13 PM

hi everyone!

I have been Fbing all day, pushing my business page.

Hit the 100 likes (now at 104) so YAY!

Really need to do some advertising on the social network - that is the next step.

Slowly, slowly.  wink.gif

#25 ShopgirlX

Posted 16 February 2013 - 09:22 PM

Ooh Ange, so you got to frock up, so to speak. Actually it was horrid weather here today! I hope the church was air conditioned!

Darn, my first bar and it's a dry one cos I'm bf'ing. I am hungry though! rolleyes.gif

So what do we do in here?




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