Jump to content

Year 5 school camp to Canberra


  • Please log in to reply
24 replies to this topic

#1 SMforshort

Posted 16 February 2013 - 01:55 PM

Hi everyone,

My son is in year 5 in a school in Sydney.  Each year my son's school has an excursion to canberra and one is again planned for this year.

Each year this excursion leaves the school at about 6am by bus.  They travel to Canberra and visit Parliament House (new and old), the electoral commission and the war memorial and then they travel back to school on the bus arriving at about 9pm.

It's a big day.

Over the years a few parents have tried to get the school to consider making this a two day trip with an overnight stay in Canberra but this has always been knocked back.  The school says this would make the trip too expensive and then some parents would not be able to send their kids and they'd miss out.

Our school also doesn't have a school camp at all for the same stated reasons - too expensive and some kids would miss out.

So, I'd love to put together a costing for an overnight trip to Canberra from Sydney just to see how expensive it would be and if parents might consider this option this year.

Entry fees would be the same but the bus hire would be for two days (although the mileage would be pretty similar), we would need to factor in accommodation and catering.

Am I missing anything?  Does anyone have any recommendations for cheap accomodation and catering in Canberra.

We are talking about 50 kids and I'm guessing 6-8 teachers/parents.

If anyone has primary aged kids who've recently had a similar two day trip to Canberra, can I ask how much it cost and where the kids stayed?

Thanks for you help.

#2 KT1978

Posted 16 February 2013 - 02:21 PM

From which direction are they traveling?

Any sports n rec or scout camp options along the way?

Sorry just saw it was from Sydney....

Edited by KT1978, 16 February 2013 - 02:23 PM.


#3 KT1978

Posted 16 February 2013 - 02:25 PM

Google says camp cottermouth could be an option.

#4 chunkysoup

Posted 16 February 2013 - 02:36 PM

I work in a very small public school in sydney. We run a 5-6 canberra camp every second year alternating with the great aussie bush camp. Both are 3 day camps. About 45 children and 3 teachers attend. It costs a few hundred dollars which include a visit to the snow and lesson when it is to canberra. My eldest duaghter is going on camp to canberra later in the year. She attends a different public school. It will be for 2 nights. I have worked in low ses schools in western sydney and the canberra trip was always 3 days. Parents will pay if given the option to pay in installments. Please excuse spelling errors...on a tablet.

#5 Flutters

Posted 16 February 2013 - 02:38 PM

I think a lot of school groups stay at the Canberra Lyneham motor inn do maybe contact them for a ball park figure?

#6 liveworkplay

Posted 16 February 2013 - 02:45 PM

All Catholic grade 6 students in Tasmania go on a 4 night trip to Canberra.  So if you wanted details of accommodation/food just google TCEO and email them. The entire trip costs us around $900 I think as it is paid in the levies in grade 6 so that people can work out a payment plan if needed and pay over 2 years.

Edited by liveworkplay, 16 February 2013 - 02:47 PM.


#7 bandbub

Posted 16 February 2013 - 02:51 PM

when i was in primary school we did a 3day2 night canberra trip, we stayed at the edmund barton motor inn, went to parliment house, war memorial institute of sport telstra tower cockington green, i cant remember how much it was but i know they sorted out payment plans for parents they organised it at the start of the year so parents had plenty of notice, we also had camps every year for year 3 through to year 6

#8 Yogurtbliss

Posted 16 February 2013 - 02:52 PM

The Carotel is perfectly set up for school groups, though usually booked well in advance. When I have arranged this trip we have used Away we Go Tours, who do all the bookings, itinerary etc.
Be mindful of the hidden cost of having to replace teachers at school. I presume that more than just the class(es) own teachers go, thus the school needs to get relief teachers? About $360 a day to replace each teacher.
Also, each student would possibly attract a PACER rebate from the government? Google it to find out how much per student
Good luck!

#9 tibs

Posted 16 February 2013 - 02:56 PM

My son's school (public primary Sydney) has a school camp to Canberra, it is 3 days/2 nights and they visit the things you've mentioned (Parliament House, Electoral Education Questacon, War Memorial, National Gallery, AIS Tower etc).  Parents had to pay $275.  The school offered a payment plan for parents spread from start of the year through to May when the camp was held, I think it was $75 for the first payment then $50 for the next 4. That covered the buses, accommodation, entry fees and meals except for the first day where they had to take their recess and lunch with them.

#10 Jingle Flea

Posted 16 February 2013 - 04:25 PM

I may be a bit biased, but my lord, there's SO much more to do in Canberra than the 3 things your school does OP! I'm a bit amazed at how little they get to see here. The art gallery, the dinosaur museum, Questacon, Cockington Green, AIS, the list goes on!
I would assume at least 2 day;'s worth easily and no 6 am starts and trying to fit it all in on one day.


#11 Rolex

Posted 16 February 2013 - 04:35 PM

I'm in Brisbane (with year 7 still being in primary school for now) and our school goes every 2 years with the 6/7's.  My eldest is year 7 this year and they're going in October.  So far we've been told it will be "approximately" $900, but of course for us this includes airfares.  We paid deposits at the end of last year, when we were also told the approximate cost, so parents have a long time to budget for the trip.

Can't help yet with where they're staying though!  Good luck with your submission - seems crazy to do it all in a day.

#12 Soontobegran

Posted 16 February 2013 - 04:43 PM

I think your school is doing Canberra a disservice. It has so much to offer our school children that should not be crammed into a single day.
Our school camps were Monday to Friday from Victoria and we filled every single moment.
The lessons they learn are invaluable.
If the school plans well ahead there can be fund raisers and perhaps the choice of payment plans if needed.
There are many hotel/motels and camping sites that are geared towards providing accommodation for school groups.

#13 Feral Grey Mare

Posted 16 February 2013 - 04:47 PM

Our local primary school will no longer have overnight camps unless they are to an established camp ground with it's own staff to supervise the children (e.g. Great Aussie Bush Camp at Tea Gardens NSW). The staff pulled the pin on camps about three years ago - the teachers simply did not want the added responsibility. No amount of pleading or offers of assistance from parents were anough to change their minds unfortunately.

#14 Appletree25

Posted 16 February 2013 - 04:50 PM

I'm a secondary teacher currently on leave but am aware of a program called PACER - Parliament & Civic Education Rebate.  Schools over 150 kms from the capital are entitled to a subsidy, the further away you are the bigger the subsidy/rebate.
Schools must complete an application but I can not remember how many months before this needs to occur. Maybe suggest that to your childs  school as there a number a venues.

#15 Lyn29

Posted 16 February 2013 - 06:51 PM

.

Edited by bye, 29 March 2013 - 02:36 PM.


#16 be_a_butterfly

Posted 16 February 2013 - 07:06 PM

I am sure my daughter stayed at Camp Cottermouth two years ago.

Every second year stage 3 go to Canberra for 2 nights, this year it is costing me $260 for everything in Canberra plus a day at the snow.

I think they visit the questacon, war memorial, mint, parliament houses, AEC, AIS. The inclusion to Thredbo is new this year for us. We were given a note at the end of last year so we could start to pay it off at the office if we wished.


#17 Feral-Lausii

Posted 16 February 2013 - 07:08 PM

Dd 12 had her year 6 one last year. It was around $250 3 days, 2 nights. They also had a trip to the snow included. We had plenty of notice to get it paid off and I don't think anyone missed out. All that in one day sounds like way too much, you have to wonder how much of it they will take in?

#18 elizabethany

Posted 16 February 2013 - 07:26 PM

Lyneham Motor Inn has been fully booked for the ANU as student accomodation, so you can't use that anymore.  Camp Cottermouth (the local scout camp) has male and female barrack type accomodation, but is self catering. They could look at the YHA, I know quite a few school groups go there, and at least it is (partially) catered.  There are camps a bit out of town, such as Birrigai or Greenhills, which accomodate school groups, though Greenhills is run by the uniting church.

I agree with STBG, there is so much to do here that it would be great to have a few more days, especially the National Museum.

#19 emum

Posted 17 February 2013 - 08:19 AM

I was going to mention PACER, too.  http://www.civicsand...du.au/cce...cer),18103.html

The primary school my elder two used to attend stayed at Camp Cottermouth to reduce costs, although I can't be sure how much it was, as their school fees were all-inclusive.

Good luck !

Cheers,
Sally original.gif

#20 Arthur or Martha

Posted 17 February 2013 - 10:16 AM

,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Edited by ambwrose, 03 September 2013 - 06:40 AM.


#21 Georgie Boy

Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:16 AM

At my sons primary school,they went to canberra every second yr.They also incorporated a trip to the snow and hydro electric scheme.They stayed in Berridale which is outside of Canberra.
Louise

#22 Bluenomi

Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:28 AM

I know a lot of school groups stay at the YHA in O'Connor, it's pretty cheap. Birrigai and Greenhills are both a far way out of town and hopefully have improved since I stayed there as a kid!

Entry into APH, OPH, War Memorial is free so that isn't costing them anything. I suspect the bus is the biggest charge but spreading the trip over 2 days shouldn't increae it that much

#23 FloralArrangement

Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:37 AM

DD14 went from Adelaide to Canberra, a day trip to Sydney, by bus, it was a 5 day trip, cost us 350.00. They stayed in cabins at a caravan park which Dd liked. We gave her spending money as well. Most food was included in that cost. I know that it was subsidised.

#24 MrsLexiK

Posted 18 February 2013 - 11:00 AM

And what if the teachers don't want to stay over night.  Because it is a big day for the students you are going to source accom and put together a list when the school has told you that they don't stay over night because it would be too costly for alot of parents and thus not all children will attend.  Not only will you have to pay for your child but you are going to have to fund the teachers and parents as well, I wouldn't be too pleased if previously I had been employed to do a work excursion for 1 day (albeit a very long day) but then was told I would need to do an overnighter.  Your child will probably come home just as tired (if not more) from the overnighter then they would by doing it in one day.  And the teachers will be cranky too. I think you are wasting your time.

#25 cward

Posted 19 February 2013 - 10:55 AM

Our school does two camps, we are in Sydney.  One in year 5 to the Blue Mountains which is a leadership development camp and then one in Year 6 to Canberra.  I think both are 3 days/2 nights and I think the cost is around the $250 mark, its just added on to our fees.

We have approximately 50 kids also and two teachers go and then usually either the principal or the vice principal go.  They haven't used parents for about 4 years unless there is no male teacher at the school then they will take a dad.

The Canberra trip even over 3 days is jam packed but the kids and teachers have a fantastic time.




1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users

 

Wondersuit heaven: Bonds & Disney launch exclusive collection

Bonds and Disney fans with babies to buy for will be celebrating this news. Bonds and Disney have just released collaboration Wondersuits.

Town welcomes first baby in 28 years

Since the 1980s, the Italian town of Ostana had not seen the birth of a single baby.

Great-great-grandma delivers great grandchild in her own home

''I've delivered calves, lambs, dogs and cats, but nothing like this.'' This 'Super Gran' calmly peeled the amniotic sac over her great-grandson's head before discovering the umbilical cord was wrapped around his neck ... twice.

How to start teaching your kids road safety

It's something that can be taught as early as possible and reinforced as they get older and more mobile - even from toddlerhood.

Just announced: Bugaboo Cameleon³ Classic+ Collection update

Meet the brand new understated chic model from Bugaboo.

The emotional moment a mum hears her late son's heartbeat

It's been two and a half years since Heather Clark's seven-month-old son Lukas passed away.

Nine reasons why you have 'brain fog'

One minute your productivity is skyrocketing and the next you're sitting there trying to focus – just like that you draw blank, your brain, mush.

I had a caesarean and it was beautiful

Guess what? Despite not pushing him out, I cried, and my heart skipped, and I felt the rush of love and pride when I saw him for the first time.

Microcephaly still a mysterious condition around the world

For parents, having a child with microcephaly can mean a life of uncertainty.

7 baby firsts you won't see on milestone charts

Here are a few 'other' baby firsts you may not have been expecting, but you'll want to be ready for.

Why it's important to vaccinate on time

My son was born on the 1 July 2014. It's a fabulous birthday, don't you think? Not only does the first of July ring in a new financial year, but it also means we've hit the year's half way mark.

Naturopath treatment allegedly left baby "days from death"

A naturopath whose treatment of a baby boy allegedly led to the infant being severely ill has pleaded not guilty to charges against her. 

Andy Murray's emotional speech to pregnant wife after Australian Open

A teary-eyed Andy Murray promised pregnant wife Kim he'd be on the next plane home after his turbulent two weeks at the Australian Open came to an end.

This toddler and his duck BFF will melt your heart

A small boy in the US has struck up a quacking good friendship with an unlikely companion ... his pet duck. 

Great news for coffee drinkers - caffeine is good for your heart

Researchers have found that, contrary to prior belief, caffeine does not cause health-threatening heart palpitations.

I always wanted children - but I've found other ways to be maternal

I've always been one of the most maternal women I know.

When only one parent wants to know the gender

For some couples you either both want to know the gender of your unborn baby, or you don't. For others, it's not that simple.

'No jab no play' could hurt disadvantaged children, experts fear

Tough new "no jab no play" laws could hurt children who have not been immunised due to family dysfunction, poverty, or poor access to medical support, experts warn.

Zika virus: Airlines offer refunds to pregnant women

Airlines and cruise companies across the world are offering refunds or travel credits to pregnant women who are scheduled to visit countries struck by the devastating Zika virus.

#meditateonthis: Mums fight back against PND ignorance

Not all women will require medication, but many will. And there isn't and shouldn't be any shame in that.

 
Advertisement
 
Advertisement
 
 
 

What's hot on EB

Penny Wong

'The most hurtful argument in the marriage equality debate'

Labor frontbencher Penny Wong is used to to hearing arguments against same-sex marriage. But for Australia's most prominent gay politician, one hurts more than others.

Does exercise have to be fun to work?

Some things in life are inherently served with a big scoop of fun: balloons, bubbles, cupcakes to name but a few, but exercise?

Hair dye gives woman second-degree burns

She wanted a fresh colour for 2016, but instead she got chemical burns.

Kelly Slater saves mum and toddler from 'freak wave'

A Perth family has thanked US surfing "legend" Kelly Slater after the star saved a mother and a young toddler from "a freak wave" in Hawaii.

Apple recalls millions of power adapters

Tech giant instigates massive international recall of power point adapters due to risk of electric shock.

Toddler's adorable alphabet goes viral

It's impossible not to share this little boy's excitement  about the alphabet.

Tot's nighttime waking saves family's life

Like all tired parents, Monique and Kyle Ruppel were looking forward to the day their 15-month-old daughter Celia would start sleeping through the night. 

Australian mum gives birth to quintuplets

An Australian mum who has shared the ups and downs of carrying quintuplets has welcomed her five babies into the world.

Dad of four girls faints at gender reveal for fifth baby

It was all too much excitement for this dad.

The simple way you can help your baby's language development

The way parents respond to their child's babbling can shape how their infants communicate.

Zika virus is 'spreading explosively': WHO

The World Health Organization announced that it will convene an emergency meeting about Zika.

National database recommended for child protection cases

Baby Ebony was repeatedly failed by the agencies tasked with her protection before her horrific death at the hands of her father, South Australia's deputy coroner says.

Hospitals put babies at risk by ignoring policy on elective caesareans

Thirty-eight weeks or 39? Non-medical factors are pushing women to have elective caesareans earlier than official guidelines - and hospitals are playing along.

Police help deliver baby on busy roadside

Two police officers delivered more than a traffic fine by the side of a busy Melbourne road yesterday.

1D's Louis Tomlinson shares first photo of baby

One Direction's Louis Tomlinson has posted the first picture of his baby boy, Freddie, on social media.

 

FREE TICKET

Free first aid demonstrations daily

Get your free ticket to the Essential Baby & Toddler Show and save $20 - register online now!

 
Advertisement
 
 
Essential Baby and Essential Kids is the place to find parenting information and parenting support relating to conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids, maternity, family budgeting, family travel, nutrition and wellbeing, family entertainment, kids entertainment, tips for the family home, child-friendly recipes and parenting. Try our pregnancy due date calculator to determine your due date, or our ovulation calculator to predict ovulation and your fertile period. Our pregnancy week by week guide shows your baby's stages of development. Access our very active mum's discussion groups in the Essential Baby forums or the Essential Kids forums to talk to mums about conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids and parenting lifestyle. Essential Baby also offers a baby names database of more than 22,000 baby names, popular baby names, boys' names, girls' names and baby names advice in our baby names forum. Essential Kids features a range of free printable worksheets for kids from preschool years through to primary school years. For the latest baby clothes, maternity clothes, maternity accessories, toddler products, kids toys and kids clothing, breastfeeding and other parenting resources, check out Essential Baby and Essential Kids.