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#1 qak

Posted 14 February 2013 - 10:34 AM

We had our Kindy (FYOS) info night earlier this week.  Apparently our kids as a cohort:
- don't know the alphabet
- don't know the sounds letters make
- don't know their sight words
- can't write their own name
- can't hold pencils
- can't form letters properly
- can't count
- can't speak properly ("it's not cute")
- have no respect for the teachers
- have no manners
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Hmmm ... I guess this is going to be a LONG year!

(PS - I am sure it is not me, must be all the other parents!)


#2 Sif

Posted 14 February 2013 - 10:36 AM

Whoa! So, they were expecting adults in FYOS, were they?

#3 EBeditor

Posted 14 February 2013 - 10:40 AM

I thought that being taught most of those things were what FYOS was all about?



#4 Ianthe

Posted 14 February 2013 - 10:42 AM

What were they planning on teaching in the FYOS-trigonomentry?

#5 Feral timtam

Posted 14 February 2013 - 10:45 AM

I thought we sent them to Kindy so that they could
learn how to hold a pencil
learn the alphabet
learn to read
learn to write
learn their numbers and mathematics

The things on that list that are the parents responsibility to teach before they start kindy are manners and respect (which is part of having manners!)

I'm on the fence about speaking properly. Sometimes not speaking properly is the result of a physical or developmental problem and unless the parents are both educated and have access to enough money these problems cannot be corrected by the parents until the school system is involved.

#6 FeralLIfeHacker

Posted 14 February 2013 - 10:46 AM

Oh dear, sounds like a long year indeed sad.gif .  





#7 kpingitquiet

Posted 14 February 2013 - 10:51 AM

That's a heck of a list! Isn't it only 1 month into the school year? Or is this somewhere else where it's 2nd semester, now?

#8 tres-chic

Posted 14 February 2013 - 10:51 AM

QUOTE (Ianthe @ 14/02/2013, 11:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What were they planning on teaching in the FYOS-trigonomentry?


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#9 tibs

Posted 14 February 2013 - 10:53 AM

Lol.  Our info night is next week.  But my son has come home reporting they have learnt the letter b so I don't think they are expecting chapter books just yet  biggrin.gif

#10 CupOfCoffee

Posted 14 February 2013 - 10:57 AM

My daughter has just turned 4 (in daycare preschool here in Queensland), is I imagine of regular intelligence and can't do all those things (she can't write her name without clues and she can't read any words yet).

And we read together all the time, play in a way to encourage learning etc... she just isn't at that stage yet.

#11 qak

Posted 14 February 2013 - 10:57 AM

QUOTE (kpingitquiet @ 14/02/2013, 11:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's a heck of a list! Isn't it only 1 month into the school year? Or is this somewhere else where it's 2nd semester, now?


It's week three  sad.gif

I am pretty sure they didn't say all that last year (DS was in kindy then) ... so either they are getting tougher, have higher expectations ... are trying to scare us ... or we all just failed!

#12 Lyra

Posted 14 February 2013 - 11:01 AM

I wouldn't expect all FYOS to know all of that. I would expect most of the kids to know some of those things. I wouldn't expect each individual student to know all those things! That's what FYOS is all about LOL

perhaps they are freaking out about the National Curriculum?

#13 Therese

Posted 14 February 2013 - 11:02 AM

Oh my. Thankfully we didn't get a talk like that in our kindy days. We were told about speaking properly though.

#14 harper_

Posted 14 February 2013 - 11:14 AM

QUOTE (Poet in New York @ 14/02/2013, 12:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How old is kindy (FYOS)? If they are 4 or older I think they should know the alphabet and recognise letters and numbers. I wouldn't expect them to be able to read or write though.


Yes I agree. I think the list below is reasonable. I've removed reading and writing.

- don't know the alphabet
- don't know the sounds letters make
- can't hold pencils
- can't count
- can't speak properly ("it's not cute")
- have no respect for the teachers
- have no manners

#15 R2B2

Posted 14 February 2013 - 11:16 AM

huh.gif is this some kind of advanced school where the expectations are set well above all others?

Our FYOS child last year wasn't expected to know anything really above alphabet and name writing and even then we were told its not essential to have these skills as they are there to learn them...

#16 harper_

Posted 14 February 2013 - 11:18 AM

QUOTE (Poet in New York @ 14/02/2013, 12:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How old is kindy (FYOS)? If they are 4 or older I think they should know the alphabet and recognise letters and numbers. I wouldn't expect them to be able to read or write though.


Yes I agree. I think the list below is reasonable. I've removed reading and writing.

- don't know the alphabet
- don't know the sounds letters make
- can't hold pencils
- can't count
- can't speak properly ("it's not cute")
- have no respect for the teachers
- have no manners

#17 baddmammajamma

Posted 14 February 2013 - 11:20 AM

QUOTE (harper_ @ 14/02/2013, 12:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes I agree. I think the list below is reasonable. I've removed reading and writing.

- don't know the alphabet
- don't know the sounds letters make
- can't hold pencils
- can't count
- can't speak properly ("it's not cute")
- have no respect for the teachers
- have no manners


I agree with harper. I don't think the reading & writing skills are base level requirements for new entries to FYOS (I'm really surprised they emphasized that!), but our school would expect each kindergartner (~5 years old)/prepster to be able to demonstrate the skills above.

Is this a private school? State school? Where are you located?

#18 FeralLIfeHacker

Posted 14 February 2013 - 11:21 AM

QUOTE (Poet in New York @ 14/02/2013, 11:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
How old is kindy (FYOS)? If they are 4 or older I think they should know the alphabet and recognise letters and numbers. I wouldn't expect them to be able to read or write though.



But how likely is it that a group of 25 - 30?? kindy kids all have no respect for the teachers, no manners and can't speak properly?

#19 harper_

Posted 14 February 2013 - 11:23 AM

QUOTE (lifehacker @ 14/02/2013, 12:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But how likely is it that a group of 25 - 30?? kindy kids all have no respect for the teachers, no manners and can't speak properly?


If they did state 'all' then that was obviously a generalisation or perhaps it was misinterpreted. I doubt they were implying that every single child lacked manners and couldn't speak properly.

#20 FeralLIfeHacker

Posted 14 February 2013 - 11:31 AM

My point is surely in a large group of children there will always be some children that can't write, read etc, some that can, some without manners, some polite etc.  Teachers at our kindy/fyos recognise and celebrate that, it seems ridiculous to me that a teacher would outline those things at all to a GROUP of parents.

#21 Beancat

Posted 14 February 2013 - 11:33 AM

I seriously think that is asking way too much for FYOS.  Isnt that the job of the teacher?  FWIW my son can do all of those things and has just turned 4, BUT and a very big BUT, he has been diagnosed as gifted.  Please this is not meant as a brag, but to let you know it is NOT normal to be able to do all of these things by FYOS (BTW his behaviour is bad and he has some strannge habits, ie I bet your kids don't lick display cabinets at shops original.gif )

#22 wanting3

Posted 14 February 2013 - 11:39 AM

QUOTE (Beancat @ 14/02/2013, 12:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I seriously think that is asking way too much for FYOS. Isnt that the job of the teacher? FWIW my son can do all of those things and has just turned 4, BUT and a very big BUT, he has been diagnosed as gifted. Please this is not meant as a brag, but to let you know it is NOT normal to be able to do all of these things by FYOS (BTW his behaviour is bad and he has some strannge habits, ie I bet your kids don't lick display cabinets at shops original.gif )

My DD1 licks the display cabinet at Gloria Jeans. It is where everyone shakes the chocolate container for their coffees, and the chocolate must settle on the glass laughing2.gif

#23 Kreme

Posted 14 February 2013 - 11:43 AM

I went to my son's information night (FYOS in NSW) and they were saying things like most of the kids already know the alphabet but some don't and that's fine, many kids know the letter sounds but some don't and thats fine.

It was the same when my daughter started school.

I think if the MAJORITY of a FYOS class didn't know the alphabet and couldn't count then yes that would be surprising. But I really don't think you can expect every single child to be at that level.

#24 dadwasathome

Posted 14 February 2013 - 11:49 AM

DS9 wasn't great at holding a pencil or forming letters in year 2! original.gif

DS5 is OK at forming letters and numbers, but really only just starting recognising sight words. The list at the OP's school seems to me to be unrealistic as a baseline.

#25 qak

Posted 14 February 2013 - 11:58 AM

QUOTE (kreme @ 14/02/2013, 12:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I went to my son's information night (FYOS in NSW) and they were saying things like most of the kids already know the alphabet but some don't and that's fine, many kids know the letter sounds but some don't and thats fine.


I think she is saying that there is a lot more than "some" who can't do these things.  Last year she certainly spoke along the lines of "that's ok, every child learns at their own pace", this year was more like "these kids are below our expectations".

I will be checking what DD can do on the weekend  ph34r.gif




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