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Sick pay for childs doc appointment?
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Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:02 PM
Anyone know if you give sick pay when a staff member has the day off for a childs general paed appointment (not emergency just general waiting for month type thing).
I know if the child is sick or has an emergency its paid under personal carers and compassionate leave as a sick day but unsure if its just a doc appointment? or should they use holiday pay?
thanks - I did google but it doesnt specify that example
Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:03 PM
with my kids appointments i have generally booked leave for the day, sick leave is usually unexpected leave.
Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:10 PM
If its planned appt then it can not be sick/carers leave. We have to use flex or annual leave at my work (fed gov).
Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:12 PM
My workplace always used personal leave (sick/carers) for these sort of appointments. It's not like you can make these appointments out of hours.
Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:14 PM
I took carers leave (paid) a few weeks ago when my daughter had to have a procedure done in hospital. It wasn't an emergency, but it was still defined as caring because she couldn't go alone.
Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:14 PM
I always booked annual leave as I knew in advance, but I also have the option to use sick leave.
Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:21 PM
For me, if I took time off work to take one of my kids to a booked appointment I'd be taking FACS (family and carers leave- government job). It's not like they can take themselves there.
Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:23 PM
Any time I need to take the kids to the doctors I use personal leave, which encompasses sick and carer's leave
Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:29 PM
I thought perhaps sick pay, but at my husbands work anytime any of the kids have had an operation or neurological assesment where my husband has needed to be there his boss always put it under holidays and said it wasnt sick pay as it wasnt an emergency and it was pre-booked so therefore holidays.
Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:30 PM
I work for a govt dept. I obtain a carers certificate and use carers leave.
Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:33 PM
At our workplace, all doctors' appointments, including specialists' appointments, be it personal or for children, are expected to be taken as booked leave or flexi time. It's when a child is actually sick, including being called half way through the day by school to come pick up child 'cos child had an accident, etc, that it can be taken as a sick day / carer's leave. So, only adverse unexpected events.
Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:42 PM
Carers leave (aka sick leave) in my workplace.
where my husband has needed to be there his boss always put it under holidays and said it wasnt sick pay as it wasnt an emergency and it was pre-booked so therefore holidays.
The simple solution is to ask the medical staff to write a medical certificate. If your DH presents that then they will have to give it carers leave.
Edited by liveworkplay, 13 February 2013 - 08:45 PM.
Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:45 PM
Carer's/personal leave - just like booked in advance medical appointments (eg operations) for you are sick leave.
Assuming they get a drs certificate for the child/carers cert for them that is.
But it would be unusual to need a whole day for one appointment, so I'd probably just call the appointement time my lunch break.
Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:50 PM
I would use personal carer's leave. Just as I would if I had a specialist appointment.
I used several carer's leave days last year when DS had his grommets out (one day at hospital, then two recovery days).
Re PP comment about not needing a whole day, it all depends on what time the appointment is and whether your child will be attending any school that day. It is certainly possible to need a day for one appointment.
Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:51 PM
At my workplace it would be classed as personal leave (sick leave), this would be paid if the worker had to take their child, parent, parent in law or spouse to the doctors
Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:54 PM
I would take that as 'family leave'. It is separate to my own sick leave.
Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:55 PM
Carer's leave at my work.
They can't force you to use your annual leave for it, but if you have exhausted your allowance for the year, you can choose to have it as annual leave or unpaid leave.
Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:56 PM
Our personal/carers/sick leave is counted in hours, so we can take it in hours. The previous time my daughter had to have a hospital procedure, she didn't need to be there until 1pm, so I worked in the morning and left at 12.30pm, which was the start of my lunch break. My shift that day was to finish at 3.20pm, so I had 2 hours and 20 minutes paid carers leave.
Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:57 PM
I get a certificate of attendance for my sons appointments and take it as carers leave. Sometimes I may have appointments at home (occupational therapist and physio) and I generally take those as annual leave.
Posted 13 February 2013 - 09:03 PM
If it is an appointment booked ages in advance I would try and schedule an RDO or A/L day.
My DD has heaps of appointments and we have found that hubby can have a hard time accessing carers leave to attend them as he is not the "primary care giver" in that why is he needed if I too am there (grrrrrrrrr some of these appointments have involved major decisions re her health and treatment)
Whereas when I was at work I could access it C/L no worries provided I had a Carers cert which essentially said That I was required to attend said appointment or provide care for the person attending.
Regardless of the fact the appointment is booked in advance it is still needed and sometimes you literally have no choice in date or time..either that one or wait another upteen months
Posted 13 February 2013 - 09:08 PM
I think it is reasonable to take carers leave for these appointments, but since it is planned you should normally only have to take half a day or a few hours.
Posted 13 February 2013 - 09:12 PM
From the National Employment Standards:
Personal / carer’s leave and compassionate leave - 10 days paid personal (sick) / carer’s leave, 2 days unpaid carer’s leave and 2 days compassionate leave (unpaid for casuals) as needed.
Obtain a medical certificate for you child's appointment - the dr will be used to doing this and it is perfectly acceptable. My employer offers separate carer's leave of an addition 5 days, pro rata, so I would use that. It does not have to be an emergency or unplanned, it simply has to be for caring duties. Do you have an enterprise agreement or award? If you do, check it and see if you have other provisions for carer's leave or family leave.
I work part time and my child has heaps of appointments. Normally I try to book them on my days off or swap my work days so i dont miss much work. Today I had to book an appointment on one of my work days and because of other appointments that week I cant swap. So I will use a half a day of carers leave to attend the appointment with my son.
Posted 13 February 2013 - 09:23 PM
Personal (sick/carers) leave at mine & my DFs work too.
My DF is taking a day of carers leave next month to take me to the hospital to have my wisdom teeth out and to drive me home after/look after me.
Posted 13 February 2013 - 09:55 PM
Carers/sick leave for both my husband's and my work (we checked with our managers). We're professionals in tech consultancy.
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