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#1 Domestic Goddess

Posted 12 February 2013 - 10:39 AM

Ok, my fundraising started off really well. Within 2 weeks I nearly reached 50% of my initial goal. Unfortunately, since the end of December, everything slowed down even after I posted in newsletters and even the newspaper.

Anyway, I'm a little bit cranky with our local shopping center management.
I have been going past the shops, but got told off by security as it was against the shopping centers policy. If I wanted to raise funds within their center, I would have to hire a table and chair to sit in one of the hallways. HIRE a table and chair.......
Where is the compassion for people in need these days???
Surely the center manager can donate a stinking chair and table???!!! I'm not a big woman and wont take much room. I would only take 1m2 lol! Heck, I'll even bring my own table and chair too  rolleyes.gif

Ugh!


#2 Feral Madam Mim

Posted 12 February 2013 - 01:11 PM

I am getting the same response, I have I think around 70 people on my FB, all friends and family (I don't have people on there I do not know or speak to), only 4 have donated, and not a single donation is from family.

I did get a good response from my kids school but the principal is sick and has had to postpone my appointment with him until he is back.

#3 Guest_~Coffee~_*

Posted 12 February 2013 - 03:09 PM

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Edited by *SnowFlower*, 21 February 2013 - 04:11 AM.


#4 Domestic Goddess

Posted 12 February 2013 - 05:50 PM

QUOTE (~Coffee~ @ 12/02/2013, 04:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The problem is there are a tonne of other people fund raising as well and for a whole bunch of different causes including many other serious diseases. Cancer isn't the only one you can die from. I think a lot of people are suffering 'donation fatigue' as a result. Bite the bullet and pay for the table and chair. You will find that people like the lions club, rotary etc all have to pay as well.


Hmmmmmm they charge me 150 bucks for that table and chair. I don't know if I will raise that much by sitting there. I prefer to just pay that money for a donation towards the Leukemia foundation original.gif

Mad madam mim I think the timing is a little off. They ought to do this when tax returns start coming back in October lol! Oh well, I will shave my head regardless. Made the appointment with the hairdresser today. Saturday 16th of March at 11am. Have a bunch of friends joining me, so maybe some last minute donations.

I also printed out a photo of me with a little explanation as to why I am doing the shave (for m friend's little 4yo boy) and stuck it onto a collection box and put it on the counter at the hairdressers.
This is a very busy hairdresser in the big shopping center in town, so Im hoping to raise a little bit of money that way. The manager said she would get her staff to try and get customers involved after they had their hair done.

#5 Guest_~Coffee~_*

Posted 12 February 2013 - 06:19 PM

QUOTE (Domestic Goddess @ 12/02/2013, 06:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hmmmmmm they charge me 150 bucks for that table and chair. I don't know if I will raise that much by sitting there. I prefer to just pay that money for a donation towards the Leukemia foundation original.gif


Ok $150 is ridiculous. Why not put yourself in the local paper with a photo and contact details?.  Get them to do a story.

Being so close after christmas also makes it a bad time.

#6 Feral Madam Mim

Posted 12 February 2013 - 06:23 PM

I agree I think it's a bad time, right after christmas and right before easter, I am hoping I will get some more donations once the school puts it in their newsletter and spreads the word a little more, I haven't done too badly though I think I am just over the $500 at the moment (a lot in part is thanks to our local Navy Club, perhaps try something like that DG?)

#7 jessie123

Posted 12 February 2013 - 07:34 PM

So were you just at the shopping centre soliciting donations with no prior approval ?

Have to say I probably would not donate in that case.

If you were at a proper set up table etc you would probably have a lot more success. But my local centre has a lot of businesses including charities such as World Vision and clubs doing raffles and they are obviously paying to advertise there.

I understand its extremely hard. I have semi regular donations I make including some to friends who participate in fundraising events several times a year. I always donate as I like to support them but sometimes it feels like its never ending.

I think you need to try and tap into family and friends. Also ask any businesses if they would donate.

#8 josh2003

Posted 12 February 2013 - 07:44 PM

I think you should start by appealing to the friends and family of the 4 year old boy you're doing it for. People can be amazingly generous when the cause is a little closer to home, or when there's some personal connection.

To be honest, if I saw you collecting at a shopping center I would probably just walk past you because there are always people there trying to get you to try/sample/pay for something or other.

But that doesn't mean that I'm not compassionate... I just happen to have some more personal causes of my own that I try to give as much as I can to (I have family living in poverty in a third world country).

#9 Feralishous

Posted 13 February 2013 - 01:32 AM

QUOTE (josh2003 @ 12/02/2013, 05:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think you should start by appealing to the friends and family of the 4 year old boy you're doing it for. People can be amazingly generous when the cause is a little closer to home, or when there's some personal connection.

To be honest, if I saw you collecting at a shopping center I would probably just walk past you because there are always people there trying to get you to try/sample/pay for something or other.

But that doesn't mean that I'm not compassionate... I just happen to have some more personal causes of my own that I try to give as much as I can to (I have family living in poverty in a third world country).

Same. We already have 'our charities' and give regular donations. But I personally hate being accosted in shopping centres and never donate/buy from those people.

#10 Spa Gonk

Posted 13 February 2013 - 04:33 AM

Personally I am glad shopping centres have rules like this in place.  When I am out shopping, I just want to do my shopping.  I really dislike when I am bailed up by the charity collectors, particularly when they use guilt to try and get donations or seem mocking when I don't donate.  I already donate to charities ad iT does not mean people are not compassionate just because they are not bending over backwards to help your fundraising efforts.  

The shopping centre probably thinks if you are sitting down, you are less likely to bother people.  Aggressive collectors put people off doing their shopping.  They just want some rules in place so the whole thing runs smoothly.  

There have been big bush fires recently where so many people have lost everything.  You might find that given how recent it is, that people have been donating a lot of money to this.

#11 Guest_~Coffee~_*

Posted 13 February 2013 - 04:42 AM

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Edited by *SnowFlower*, 20 February 2013 - 04:51 PM.


#12 ~Supernova~

Posted 13 February 2013 - 05:30 AM

That cost is a bit much in my opinion, and they could certainly afford to lower it for not for profit organisations/events.

Having said that, I think it's just a really difficult time of year for many people. I normally love to chip in a little and help, but right now just can't. It doesn't mean I have no compassion, it means I have no money lol.

#13 Still-here!

Posted 13 February 2013 - 06:05 AM

I'm another one who has her chosen charities and doesn't usually particiae in the many 'sponsoring' requests.
There are too many! And I've seen some pretty pushy/demanding requests on FB and the like...

#14 MintyBiscuit

Posted 13 February 2013 - 06:25 AM

That cost is a lot, but at the end of the day a shopping centre is a business. There is no obligation or them to donate their space and their customers to you. I think you'll find as well tha in the shave for a cure guidelines they advise you to check everything when trying to get donations - if you annoy people in a shopping centre (which I'm not saying you did) it reflects poorly on the charity, and if you ignore rules it also reflects poorly on them.

Last year I raised a bit over $800 for the shave, and it pretty much all came from FB and emailing people. Hitting up strangers is hard for many reasons - I always walk past the charity collectors in shops unless it's one of two specific charities because I choose to donate to certain charities only. I also have family and friends who do various charity things throughout the year like movember, fun runs etc, so I prefer to donate to them.

When I first did the shave 12 years ago I was working in retail so had something to collect at our shop and a couple of other local shops on the local strip. Non shopping centre shops are often a bit more open to putting a little collection box out. Do you know anyone who works in retail who might be able to ask their boss, or even just friends' workplaces? I got DH to email workmates last year and got quite a few donations that way.

#15 Etcetera

Posted 13 February 2013 - 08:52 AM

If you and a few friends are all doing it together at the hairdressers, can you make it a big deal - signs, balloons etc outside the shop? You might get a lot of 'passing trade' donations - and it drums up business for the hairdresser.

#16 Chchgirl

Posted 13 February 2013 - 09:30 AM

QUOTE (trishalishous @ 13/02/2013, 02:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Same. We already have 'our charities' and give regular donations. But I personally hate being accosted in shopping centres and never donate/buy from those people.


Me too..I am sick of people pushing on me donations, sponsor a child, makeup selling (which are the worst!), paintballing, the list goes on. The only one recently who didn't was the SES..I want to run and honestly will go around a different door to avoid them.

And I have lost my dh to cancer, so I do understand. But these people bring out the worst in me.

#17 monkeys mum

Posted 13 February 2013 - 09:45 AM

Op have you thought about organsing a local bbq?

Shopping centres have their policies in place for certain readons and I am pretty sure the person you spoke to wouldnt be the one making the policuez up. If they let every person sho was fundraiding have a table and chair there would be no room for shoppers.

Good luck with your fundraising thinking a bit outside of the box might be a better idea though.

#18 Domestic Goddess

Posted 13 February 2013 - 02:39 PM

Ehm I said I went past the shops and not walking around the center asking people for donations. Im way too shy for that :\
Also, I DID have permission from another manager (female one) on Thursday. I had asked her to make sure I was not going to get into trouble.
I guess they don't all work Mon-Friday as on Friday there was a different manager and he was the one saying I had to hire a spot for 150 and if I wanted to have 2 chairs and a bigger table, it would cost me 200  unsure.gif

On Friday I had my registration letter with me and only asked shop keepers. NOT customers. Im not that silly. If I were, I would just go doorknocking instead.

Unfortunately the family and friends of this 4yo boy have already donated as much as they could, towards his parents to pay for accommodation for the parents while he's having treatment in Sydney. IPTAAS only covers for 1 adult, but his father wants to stay there during the weekends too.

Its also not so much about the funding I am raising either. I was going to shave my hair even without the fund raising. Every dollar I raise now is a bonus original.gif
Its about a simple chair and table in a shopping center that I need to cough up $150,- for. I understand they are a business, but charging this amount of money can backfire in negative publicity for them.
Plus its only a small regional town with a small center. Makes me wonder what they charge in the big city centers.
I actually approached 3 hairdressers and asked if I could leave a collection box on their counter. They all said no and all charged me between 18 and 25 bucks for the shave.
Luckily I found a hairrdresser in the big center who is now willing to do it for free.

Oh and I did ask my friends to join me in the fundraising by dyeing their hair or wear some crazy extensions, but none of them was interested. It would have been nice if we could have done it as a group, but oh well.
They all just want to attend the shave so they can watch me and make silly photos and have a giggle lol rolleyes.gif

I had considered a BBQ at Bunnings, but when I rang them on Monday, they had already been booked for the next 7 weekends sad.gif Bit of a bummer.



#19 Bluenomi

Posted 13 February 2013 - 02:50 PM

QUOTE (trishalishous @ 13/02/2013, 02:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Same. We already have 'our charities' and give regular donations. But I personally hate being accosted in shopping centres and never donate/buy from those people.


Me as well. I like to research my charities so I know where my money is going. Bail me up either in person or on the phone and you will no get a cent of my money.

#20 KT1978

Posted 13 February 2013 - 03:11 PM

I think the fee could cover public liability?

Small spaces like what you describe are often rented for up to $1000 a week, and the tenant provides insurances.

Was the fee for one day or a week?

Personally I don't like fundraisers in shopping centres. Better to go through a small business or a school/club.

#21 Feral Grey Mare

Posted 13 February 2013 - 03:15 PM

QUOTE (~Coffee~ @ 13/02/2013, 05:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
And I hate to say in but there are lot of people that are over donating to cancer. Cancer receives an enormous amount of funding, unlike other diseases.



Possibly because it affects more people than most other diseases do?

#22 KT1978

Posted 13 February 2013 - 03:22 PM

I hate to say it but I wonder where the money for most charities goes...



#23 LynnyP

Posted 13 February 2013 - 07:14 PM

There are studies taht show where money raised for many charities goes.

I am glad shopping centres have barriers to stop anyone and everyone stopping people for money.  I have my charities and donate on line.  I do not want to be asked to donate when I am out and will avoid them.


I thought these sorts of initiatives were to allow people to raise money from friends and family?  Some random in a shopping centre won't care in the slightest that you are cutting your hair off. They may care about your cause and may be donating in other ways.

#24 Country (deci)Mel

Posted 13 February 2013 - 07:26 PM

QUOTE (LynnyP @ 13/02/2013, 08:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I thought these sorts of initiatives were to allow people to raise money from friends and family?  Some random in a shopping centre won't care in the slightest that you are cutting your hair off. They may care about your cause and may be donating in other ways.


I have to agree with LynnyP here OP.. 'World's Greatest Shave is about fund raising from colleagues, friends and family.

It is not a good way to fundraise from strangers.  A raffle or a sausage sizzle will do that better.

I don't think it is a lack of compassion, it is a lack of interest in you and whether or not you have hair.




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