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#1 magical

Posted 12 February 2013 - 07:44 AM

I keep seeing the ads for 60 minutes starting back this Sunday with Liz Hayes interviewing him. I wonder what he will have to say this time.

#2 ~sydblue~

Posted 12 February 2013 - 07:54 AM

He doesn't really interest me. However, mental illness does affect different people in different ways. So it would be interesting to see what is said.

#3 Anyway...

Posted 12 February 2013 - 07:54 AM

I will watch it but more so I can roll my eyes at the stupidity and excuses he will no doubt dish out.

I get he was a good actor/writer for 5 minutes but other than that all he is is Bert newtons son, enough already!

#4 soontobegran

Posted 12 February 2013 - 08:11 AM

So Sassy Girl, what constitutes a 'real mental illness'?

Don't like him and abhor his behaviour ? This is absolutely your right and understandable but you have no right to comment on his mental illness and whether it is real or not.


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Edited by soontobegran, 12 February 2013 - 08:12 AM.


#5 Mumma3

Posted 12 February 2013 - 08:25 AM

Thank you STBG.
Every time I see and hear reports on Matthew Newton, i am reeminded that his situation is almost identical to that of a family member of mine.
Mental illness is not a generic "one-size fits all" presentation. Just because the PPs mental illness doesn't present in this way, does mean he doesn't have a mental illness.
He is a similar age to my family member, and I from what I have heard, many of his childhood issues were similar. Sadly, the 70s and 80s were not a time for children and families to get assistance when behavioural, developmental and mental issues arose, and they, like us, were told he just needed more dicipline. Still happens a lot, actually.
I feel incredibly sad for his family, as I know only too well what it is like to live with.

#6 soontobegran

Posted 12 February 2013 - 06:50 PM

QUOTE (Mumma3 @ 12/02/2013, 09:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
. Sadly, the 70s and 80s were not a time for children and families to get assistance when behavioural, developmental and mental issues arose, and they, like us, were told he just needed more dicipline. Still happens a lot, actually.


So very true Mumma3.
This is a family that would have accessed all the care that was available to them at the time and I do  believe Matthew has slipped through the cracks just like so many of these decades.
Matthew's problems have been life long and whilst I under no circumstances condone his behaviour and realise his non compliance to accepting help has been a huge factor it is just so very wrong to make statements about whether he is 'really'mentally ill or not.
I am sorry your family has had to live through this too.

#7 Ruffles

Posted 16 February 2013 - 12:50 PM

QUOTE (Mumma3 @ 12/02/2013, 06:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thank you STBG.
Every time I see and hear reports on Matthew Newton, i am reeminded that his situation is almost identical to that of a family member of mine.
Mental illness is not a generic "one-size fits all" presentation. Just because the PPs mental illness doesn't present in this way, does mean he doesn't have a mental illness.
He is a similar age to my family member, and I from what I have heard, many of his childhood issues were similar. Sadly, the 70s and 80s were not a time for children and families to get assistance when behavioural, developmental and mental issues arose, and they, like us, were told he just needed more dicipline. Still happens a lot, actually.
I feel incredibly sad for his family, as I know only too well what it is like to live with.



So well said.

I feel very sorry for the people who have been hurt by his abusive behaviour.  Like most people, I do not condone that in any way whatsoever.

But I think the reaction the Newton family now get is a great example of how we as a society do not accept, understand or really care about mental illness, and force families to hide it.  They are a decent, hardworking and supportive family.  They love their children and seem to have tried to do their best by them.  And they have a son who has had a difficult time.

I don't know if it is the tall poppy syndrome, or what.  But I wish we could be more supportive and understanding.  Instead of the accusations of faking it, using it to hide behind, or as an excuse.  

There, but for the grace of whatever you believe in, goes any one of us.

#8 JaneDoe2010

Posted 17 February 2013 - 03:07 PM

QUOTE (soontobegran @ 12/02/2013, 07:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So very true Mumma3.
This is a family that would have accessed all the care that was available to them at the time and I do  believe Matthew has slipped through the cracks just like so many of these decades.
Matthew's problems have been life long and whilst I under no circumstances condone his behaviour and realise his non compliance to accepting help has been a huge factor it is just so very wrong to make statements about whether he is 'really'mentally ill or not.
I am sorry your family has had to live through this too.



QUOTE (Ruffles @ 16/02/2013, 01:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So well said.

I feel very sorry for the people who have been hurt by his abusive behaviour.  Like most people, I do not condone that in any way whatsoever.

But I think the reaction the Newton family now get is a great example of how we as a society do not accept, understand or really care about mental illness, and force families to hide it.  They are a decent, hardworking and supportive family.  They love their children and seem to have tried to do their best by them.  And they have a son who has had a difficult time.

I don't know if it is the tall poppy syndrome, or what.  But I wish we could be more supportive and understanding.  Instead of the accusations of faking it, using it to hide behind, or as an excuse.  

There, but for the grace of whatever you believe in, goes any one of us.



Well said, both of you.

I think people are accepting of those with mental health issues... until it impacts them. All talk until they actually have to stand up and actually forgive someone with a mental illness who might make a mistake.

#9 TwiceThe Woman

Posted 17 February 2013 - 04:16 PM

This is heartbreaking - and also completely stupid.
My whole extended family are going to boycott the show.
It is horrendously ignorant expecting a person to make value judgements on their lack of insight at the time of their breakdown; the very lack of insight and judgement is part of the breakdown.....
The interviewers don't get it - if he had the insight or normal understanding of what was going on, he would not have been in a state of "breakdown".
Cruelty and judgement is not what people with mental illness need.

I am not interested in someone with a mental illness being humiliated just because they happen to have well known parents.  My heart brakes for them.
It's 2013 and people still lack this much compassion towards mental illness?
An absolute disgrace.

#10 lucky 2

Posted 17 February 2013 - 04:28 PM

I probably wont get to watch (timing with other things that need to be done) but I really would like him to recover enough to do what he does best, act. I have always admired his acting roles and comedy.
I don't know if having an interview like this is helpful, I hope it isn't destructive for him.
If he has a personality disorder and other mental illnesses he needs to be very careful how he spends his time, I'd rather he keep himself as safe as possible and keep as well as possible so he doesn't hurt either himself or others, which he certainly is prone to do.

#11 soontobegran

Posted 17 February 2013 - 04:34 PM

Same here TTW. sad.gif
I wouldn't watch it if paid to do so. Bloody Liz Hayes will do nothing but her best to make a fool of him.
From the couple of quick promos I have seen he looks like a deer in headlights and still obviously ill.

I don't think some people understand that feeling empathy for someone does not mean their behaviour is condoned.


#12 JaneDoe2010

Posted 17 February 2013 - 05:29 PM

QUOTE (TwiceThe Woman @ 17/02/2013, 05:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am not interested in someone with a mental illness being humiliated just because they happen to have well known parents.  My heart brakes for them.
It's 2013 and people still lack this much compassion towards mental illness?
An absolute disgrace.



QUOTE (soontobegran @ 17/02/2013, 05:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I don't think some people understand that feeling empathy for someone does not mean their behaviour is condoned.


Same. I'm glad others feel that way.

#13 Anyway...

Posted 17 February 2013 - 07:29 PM

I watched and although my comments from earlier may sound heartless I actually until recent years always loved him, my favourite book of all time is looking for alibrandi and when it was made into a movie I was so excited and fell in love with Matthew Newton, when he was on underbelly I watched that series purely because he was in it.

After he assaulted brooke satchwell i thought firstly none of my bees wax but then he did it again to Rachel (can't remember last name) and my thoughts on him went down. I watched the channel 7 interview he did and really felt for him thinking obviously he is battling demons and I hoped he would get the help he obviously needed, then came the latest issues he dealt with and he has gone to tv again sad.gif unfortunately a PP was correct in saying

QUOTE
From the couple of quick promos I have seen he looks like a deer in headlights and still obviously ill.


We shall see I suppose


#14 Great Dame

Posted 18 February 2013 - 09:56 AM

I watched.

Apparently he doesn't have a mental illness.  He is on no medication, as like I said, apparently no mental illness.  No addictions either.  He said the problem was prescribed drugs.  This has somewhat changed my POV.  While neither a MI or addiction are an excuse, they are at least an explanation.

I think he still has a lonnnnnnnng way to go.  He came across as very insincere, in denial.  I have no idea if that was deliberate or not.

#15 sandgropergirl

Posted 18 February 2013 - 09:58 AM

QUOTE (Madame Protart @ 18/02/2013, 10:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I watched.

Apparently he doesn't have a mental illness.  He is on no medication, as like I said, apparently no mental illness.  No addictions either.  He said the problem was prescribed drugs.  This has somewhat changed my POV.  While neither a MI or addiction are an excuse, they are at least an explanation.

I think he still has a lonnnnnnnng way to go.  He came across as very insincere, in denial.  I have no idea if that was deliberate or not.


Agreed

#16 zande

Posted 18 February 2013 - 09:58 AM

I wanted to feel sorry for him, to understand what he has been going through, but I didn't. He didn't come across as sincere or remorseful or anything, in denial perhaps some arrogance. I don't think he's done himself any favours with that interview TBH.

#17 Great Dame

Posted 18 February 2013 - 09:59 AM

QUOTE (soontobegran @ 17/02/2013, 05:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
and still obviously ill.


Well maybe.  But he just spent three months in Betty Ford Clinic, as well as numerous other treatment centres over the years.  In the interview, he said he had no MI.


#18 steppy

Posted 18 February 2013 - 10:09 AM

I wish he'd get his head off the television.

#19 Littleone84

Posted 18 February 2013 - 12:15 PM

I felt he showed no remorse, was insincere, and obviously dancing around Liz Hayes questions in a smug/arrogant way.

I dont belie he has displayed any accountability for his actions and his comments in relation to hitting people, being violent, i felt like he was trying to say the victims made me do it.  

He says he was self medicating with prescription pills. What was he trying to mask? I believe he does in fact have some kind of illness, because people dont self medicate for no reason, its either MI or addiction, both of which he denies he suffers from.

If he cant face the realities of his circumstances, he cannot over come it.

#20 soontobegran

Posted 18 February 2013 - 07:08 PM

QUOTE (Madame Protart @ 18/02/2013, 10:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well maybe.  But he just spent three months in Betty Ford Clinic, as well as numerous other treatment centres over the years.  In the interview, he said he had no MI.



Of course just because he says he doesn't have a MI he doesn't huh.gif
It doesn't take a genius to see that he is sick but apparently MI is only an excuse for bad behaviour if the person is likeable and not considered to have lived a privileged life.
He should never have been interviewed but I am sure the carrot that Nine dangled seemed too good to pass up.

I have liitle respect for anyone who watched it TBH.....what the hell did you hope to get from it?

#21 soontobegran

Posted 18 February 2013 - 07:10 PM

QUOTE (Littleone84 @ 18/02/2013, 01:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If he cant face the realities of his circumstances, he cannot over come it.


If only it was so simple unsure.gif

#22 Ruffles

Posted 18 February 2013 - 09:36 PM

QUOTE (Madame Protart @ 18/02/2013, 07:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I watched.

Apparently he doesn't have a mental illness.  He is on no medication, as like I said, apparently no mental illness.  No addictions either.  He said the problem was prescribed drugs.  This has somewhat changed my POV.  While neither a MI or addiction are an excuse, they are at least an explanation.

I think he still has a lonnnnnnnng way to go.  He came across as very insincere, in denial.  I have no idea if that was deliberate or not.



I thought he presented like someone with a definite mental illness, and I wonder at the medical advice around him, or whether he is taking the advice he is getting.  

Betty ford is an addiction clinic, is is not? I thought there seemed to bee to much emphasis on his being "clean"and unmedicated.  But he came across as someone a little bit manic, totally in denial. And so many people in a manic sate talk about changing their lives, feeling great, making a huge effort, etc etc etc.  all the things he was saying.  

I'm not sure that unmedicated for him is such a good thing.

I think he deserves compassion.  He is taking responsibility for his actions.  He said it many times.    Nd people with mental illness often don't come across as sympathetic characters.  They might not understand what the rest of us can so clearly see.  Doesn't mean he's not remorseful, in his own way.  And that he doesn't deserve more chances.  If he was my family member, I'd be praying that people would allow him to try again.

And seriously, when you saw him lie of the floor next to the guy he assaulted...... Can you really doubt that there is something not right.  





#23 Ruffles

Posted 18 February 2013 - 09:42 PM

STBG-I agree with all you said.  However I watched- I hope you won't tar me with the same brush.

I was frustrated, as I knew I would be.  I was glad though, to see that he gave  some of the answers that people will want to hear. That he realises he hurt people and is fully responsible for that.

Unfortunately some people will only believe remorse if they see floods of tears.  That, they can understand.

I really hope he is getting more help than he let on.

#24 YodaTheWrinkledOne

Posted 19 February 2013 - 12:17 AM

While I do think he has mental health issues, I'm not interested in seeing yet another interview with him.  For his sake, as well as for mine.

#25 JuniPooks_

Posted 19 February 2013 - 06:46 AM

I had the Telly on and it came on. I looked up and watched a few minutes. Then I said to DP "oh, this guy is really unwell, I wonder WTF they think they are doing interviewing someone who is clearly unwell at the moment?" then watched another 15 seconds before realizing it was best to switch off.

Yeah, I saw him deny he had mental illness. Sometimes a person's illness prevents that person from understanding/accepting that they are ill, from committing to/accessing the right services and so forth. IME, this is the most difficult 'group' of the mentally ill to then manage their illness effectively. It's not something I would wish on my worst enemy and I think it is irresponsible of 60 minutes to conduct the interview.




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