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#1 ~iMum~

Posted 11 February 2013 - 04:25 PM

We noticed a change in the kids' homework sheets in term 4 last year and put it down to the new curriculum. A teacher aide friend of mine has said, however, that the teachers themselves still put homework sheets together, as opposed to them coming as part of a package, as I was envisaging. In any event, I noticed small errors in the homework sheets almost every week lat year. I didn't say anything at the time as it was the end of the year and everyone was tired and out of puff.

Today, DS's first lot of homework for the year (grade 4) has just come home marked from last week and he has been incorrectly marked wrong for two sections. One section is a vignette which they need to read and then answer questions about the content, and the other is about reporting verbs (circle the correct ones). The teacher has explained to DS why one of the sections was marked as incorrect, but not the other, and he is still confused as to why it is wrong.

How much am I supposed to care about errors in homework before coming across as a crazy parent and being talked about in the staff room? original.gif I really want to go see the teacher and discuss it with her, but I'm worried a) I'll be seen as one of 'those' parents and b) based on what I was seeing on homework sheets last year, that this is going to be a weekly thing. I know there is the option to opt out of homework, but that is not something we want to do in our family.

Edited by whathousework?, 12 February 2013 - 11:00 AM.


#2 BadCat

Posted 11 February 2013 - 06:08 PM

I'd care.  A lot.

If you want my kid to do homework the least you can do is get it right.  An occassional error is one thing.  Every week is not on.

If the errors continue you need to complain.

#3 Quay11

Posted 11 February 2013 - 06:14 PM

QUOTE (O TheHugeManatee @ 11/02/2013, 06:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'd care.  A lot.

If you want my kid to do homework the least you can do is get it right.  An occassional error is one thing.  Every week is not on.

If the errors continue you need to complain.


Can your son bring it up? I'm not 'one of those parents' (they're too young) but I was certainly one of 'those' students. One of my primary school teachers was a terrible speller, poor bloke.

#4 Musk Sticks

Posted 11 February 2013 - 06:18 PM



Yes, I would speak to teacher about.

It is not fair to your son. Being consistently incorrectly marked wrong could also be detrimental to a child's confidence / self esteem.

When I was in primary school, I had an incident where are teacher incorrectly marked me wrong for something. When my mother pointed it out to her, the teacher maintained that she was correct.
My mother had a university professor write a letter stating that my answer was indeed correct.

Edited by Therese, 11 February 2013 - 07:32 PM.


#5 EsmeLennox

Posted 11 February 2013 - 06:22 PM

I would just go in and discuss it with the teacher. Funnily enough,  they are human too and make mistakes.

Edited by Jemstar, 11 February 2013 - 06:23 PM.


#6 Lyn29

Posted 11 February 2013 - 06:24 PM

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Edited by bye, 29 March 2013 - 02:31 PM.


#7 Foo-Foo-the-Snoo

Posted 11 February 2013 - 06:26 PM

I would absolutely speak with the teacher. You can be polite about it, but it's certainly not fair that your son should be penalised for the teacher's mistake. Especially if it is occurring on a regular basis.

The teacher should be accountable for his / her work, and a child should be rewarded for the effort he / she puts into their homework.

#8 Lyn29

Posted 11 February 2013 - 06:26 PM

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Edited by bye, 29 March 2013 - 02:31 PM.


#9 Loore

Posted 11 February 2013 - 06:29 PM

I'd bring it up with the teacher, particularly if its been an ongoing issue.  It's not really setting the best precedent for your DS if you let it go and his work is  continually incorrectly marked.

I probably wouldn't care so much about being talked about in the staff room.


#10 JustBeige

Posted 11 February 2013 - 06:30 PM

In light of last year, I would approach the teacher about why and how it was wrong.

I would have with me my source of why I think her corrections were wrong (but make sure that they are reputable) and try and have a discussion from there.

TBH, if she did the "Im right, you are one of 'those' parents" stance, then I would write a letter to the principal and include my sources of information and ask for a response.

Its not OK to have ongoing incorrect information

#11 cira

Posted 11 February 2013 - 06:32 PM

If she is regularly marking homework wrong incorrectly then how is she doing in the classroom?

I would be upset because I'd be wondering how competent the teacher was in general.

#12 Guest_CaptainOblivious_*

Posted 11 February 2013 - 06:38 PM

QUOTE (Musk Sticks @ 11/02/2013, 07:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes, I would speak to teacher about.

It is not fair to your son. Being consistently incorrectly marked wrong could also be detrimental to a child's confidence / self esteem.

When I was in primary school, I had an incident where are teacher incorrectly marked me wrong for something. When my mother pointed it out to her, the teacher maintained that she was correct.
My mother had a university professor write a letter stating that my answer was indeed correct.

I think your mum made a total d*ck of herself. Normal people would probably have just mentioned to their kid that everyone can make mistakes and that it's not the end of the world.

QUOTE (Lyn630 @ 11/02/2013, 07:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
IME, you'd only get talked about in the staffroom if you were abusive or acted like a self-righteous, pompous know-it-all. From your post, OP, I don't think you qualify on either count!

you mean, a bit like the PP's mum.

rolleyes.gif

Edited by Therese, 11 February 2013 - 07:36 PM.
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#13 Lyra

Posted 11 February 2013 - 06:58 PM

As a teacher I will say that sometimes you see the same mistake over and over and over again that you actually begin to think that it's actually correct LOL

I had to double check myself once after seeing the same mistake over and over again in a grade one spelling test! And, I am an awesome speller

I would actually be more concerned in this case that the teacher is not sitting down the with either the class or the child to explain the answers. What's the point of doing the exercise if you don't know where you are going wrong?

#14 #tootired

Posted 11 February 2013 - 07:05 PM

We've had a similar incident. My DS had a student teacher for most of Term 4. The kids had made dictionaries that they would write words in that they had trouble spelling often. The student teacher would write in the words into the dictionary that were spelt incorrectly in their homework. She could not spell!! Every week 5-10 words would be written into the dictionary incorrectly!
I bypassed the classroom teacher and just showed it to the Principal.

Sadly, she missed out on the full time job that came up at years end...

I think leave it for a few weeks and if it continues, take the evidence in and ask for an explanation.

#15 countrymel

Posted 11 February 2013 - 07:06 PM

QUOTE (Jemstar @ 11/02/2013, 07:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I would just go in and discuss it with the teacher. Funnily enough,  they are human too and make mistakes.


This.

QUOTE (Lyn630 @ 11/02/2013, 07:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
IME, you'd only get talked about in the staffroom if you were abusive or acted like a self-righteous, pompous know-it-all. From your post, OP, I don't think you qualify on either count!


And this...

I'm a teacher - If a parent quietly and helpfully pointed out where I'd made an error I would thank them, feel a bit embarrassed and make sure in the future I checked any homework sheets I had written over a few wines again when I was sober!

#16 PatG

Posted 11 February 2013 - 07:14 PM

I want to know that the question and wrong answer were!  If your son can't follow the logic as to why his answer was wrong, another answer was right then he should ask twice and then I'd suggest you ask for clarification "to help explain to DS".

#17 SqueakyBee

Posted 11 February 2013 - 07:30 PM

I think a quiet word with the teacher would be in order, since those kinds of mistakes can really confuse students as to what is correct. Teachers are not infallible, especially when they have so much on their plates sometimes, so maybe letting her know about the mistake will remind her to take a bit more care in future.

#18 soontobegran

Posted 11 February 2013 - 07:38 PM

QUOTE (Therese @ 11/02/2013, 08:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was doing my secret moderator business, no one was supposed to take notice of me wink.gif



I have quoted what she said. original.gif  Do you want to edit it?

#19 Expelliarmus

Posted 11 February 2013 - 07:39 PM

Too late Tounge1.gif I seen it.

Dull pencil that I am ...

I'd go with the quiet word thing FTR

Edited by howdo, 11 February 2013 - 07:40 PM.


#20 Therese

Posted 11 February 2013 - 07:40 PM

I have removed it now original.gif

EB is being very slow for me tonight, I do apologise original.gif

I have just edited out a comment that was deliberately inflammatory and then posts that quoted it.

#21 Fifi

Posted 11 February 2013 - 07:46 PM

Sorry Musk sticks - that is offensive. I got top Hsc results, have 2 degrees and 2 post grad degrees. My parents were both teachers and while they said I should choose another career, I discovered teaching was my passion. Please don't generalize about teachers and how smart they are. Your opinion persuades many gifted students to take up alternate careers when they could be shaping student's lives. I know a lot of very smart teachers original.gif

In saying that, unfortunately OP I have come across your problem this year with my own son's teacher. His homework has come home unmarked after the first week sad.gif His English book showed that his teacher had no understanding of teaching digraphs sad.gif I am unsure what to do because I also don't want to be known as "that parent". I have decided to leave it a few weeks and see how things settle but I will definitely say something politely if things don't start looking up.

Good luck with it original.gif

#22 L&E

Posted 11 February 2013 - 07:53 PM

The issue isn't that the teacher has made an error. Surely it is that the child doesn't understand why/if they are correct or not, and if they are how to be correct next time.

To err is to be human, but a teacher needs to use homework to guide planning of future learning, whether whole class or individual. Your son is grade 4? I would ask him to seek clarification himself, it's his homework and he should be becoming independent with his learning.

I'm now wondering how many parents go through the marking of their primary kids homework, I'm obviously slack.

Edited by L&E, 11 February 2013 - 07:55 PM.


#23 Expelliarmus

Posted 11 February 2013 - 08:01 PM

I don't either L&E. never occurred to me. The one time DD1 thought her teacher was wrong he was right and I told her so!

#24 ~iMum~

Posted 12 February 2013 - 10:59 AM

There was drama on my thread and I missed it? Bummer.

Well, I spoke to DS's teacher this morning and came away feeling better, but still confused, and a little cranky  wacko.gif

She explained that homework doesn't really form part of the overall grade assigned, which made me feel better, and that she marks homework from a marking sheet...hmmm. I tried raising that the marking sheet doesn't appear to be entirely correct (trying to be diplomatic), and was fobbed off in that polite way that teachers do original.gif She then started telling me what a great student DS is and not to worry - doh! It seems this battle has been won by the teacher with flattery original.gif

I have since spoken to a friend who's daughter is in the same grade, but a different class. During the course of our conversation we compared the marking for the homework and her daughter was marked correct for things my DS wasn't, and vice versa - WTF?! Inconsistent marking...hmmm... oomg.gif  nno2.gif

For those interested, here's the homework in question (I'll post the teachers answers later):

Q1. How do plants provide shelter for animals?

Plants provide shelter for animals in several ways. They shield animals from predators and the harsh environment, like the hot sun, cold snow and torrential rain. The [sic] also provide a place to hunt from.

The tropical rainforest provides shelter to over 20% of the world's species of animals. Many animals acutally live in the trees themselves - these are called arboreal animals. Trees and plants don't always just provide shelter, they can also provide a source of food for the animals that live there. For example, birds that build their nests in trees can feed off the bugs that live in the bark. Others use the canopy as shelter to protect them from being eaten or as a base where they can wait for prey to walk by.

There are many different names for different types of animal shelters. Some examples are: den, nest, cave, lodge, burrow.

What is the name given to animals who live in trees?
Name two reasons some animals use plants for shelter.
Name three animals that use plants for shelter.

Q2. Circle the verbs that you might use if you wanted to report your findings.
I paint
I conclude
I argue
I jump
I hammer
I eat
I suggest
I shout
I understand
I summarise
I support
I observe

#25 Phascogale

Posted 12 February 2013 - 11:14 AM

The questions seen pretty self explanatory (despite the spelling/grammatical error) and I'm curious as to what the teachers answer are so post sooner rather than later.

I've had my kids homework marked incorrectly occasionally.  Sometimes it's in the spelling words (picked up when I read out the words to the kids to do a practice spell) or it's just something that's wrong.

Usually I will mention it to the teacher - quietly, sometimes I don't bother depending on the issue and whether I have time.  Sometimes I just tell my kids that the word is incorrectly spelt and prove it (with a dictionary) if required.  I just explain that sometimes mistakes are made and to just get on with it.  As long as they know the correct answer.  If it's going to make a difference to their marks then I would have a formal chat with the teacher.

I'd only be worried if it was consistent or a large part was very incorrect.  If the teacher is consistently wrong then I'd be questioning her/his ability to teach my child for the year and would be having a chat with the principal (after of course mentioning my concerns - in a nice way -  to the teacher).




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