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#1 Almond milk shake

Posted 09 February 2013 - 06:55 PM

Hi,

My daughter has just started three year old kinder.  I have a concern as there are no toilet doors or privacy for children using the toilets.  There are dividers between toilets, but basically if anyone looks into the largish room where the toilets are, any child on a toilet is in full view.  

I understand that they probably can't put doors on there for safety reasons and children protection purposes, but not even a half door or curtain to offer SOME privacy?  I just don't get it.  

Can someone explain this to me?  Does this seem bizarre to anyone else or is it just me?  I will be asking them next time we go, but I just wanted to see if anyone else has experienced this and if so would it have bothered you?  



#2 cinnabubble

Posted 09 February 2013 - 06:58 PM

This is bog standard (pardon the pun) in all places for pre-school children. It's safer for them in terms of supervision and aids toilet training by reinforcing peer group pressure. I've never been remotely concerned by it.

Edited by cinnabubble, 09 February 2013 - 06:58 PM.


#3 luke's mummu

Posted 09 February 2013 - 06:59 PM

My sons have been at 3 different preschool/kinders and they are all the same as you describe.

#4 MrsNorthman

Posted 09 February 2013 - 06:59 PM

I never thought twice about it to be honest.

#5 Peppery

Posted 09 February 2013 - 07:01 PM

That is the same set up at my DD's preschool. Has never concerned me.

#6 FearsomeFeralFreak

Posted 09 February 2013 - 07:02 PM

I have never seen a preschool with anything other than what you describe. And it has never bothered me at all.

#7 MarigoldMadge

Posted 09 February 2013 - 07:02 PM

is this your first daycare/kinder experience? Because every kinder and daycare centre I've been at, has this easy view into the toilets.

I have no problem with this - the staff need to be able to look in from the main room and see that all is well with one or more children, and also not leave the main room to maintain supervision in there too.

I don't find that children this age have any real need of the level of privacy that adults expect - the need for quick and thorough supervision is adequate reason for me.

#8 fun_fairz

Posted 09 February 2013 - 07:03 PM

Our LDC does not even have cubicles, it is an open room with sinks and change table facilities. They share the room with the toddlers next door.

Never even gave it a thought. The kids seem fine with it.

#9 greenthumbs

Posted 09 February 2013 - 07:03 PM

They were in my preschool (I'm 35 now) and I'm not scarred biggrin.gif



#10 somila

Posted 09 February 2013 - 07:03 PM

Totally normal.  Might even be a requirement.

#11 ZombieFerretOfDoom

Posted 09 February 2013 - 07:04 PM

Dividers between toilets??? Luxury.

No, seriously - our kids had a room between the preschool and toddler room with 5 little toilets in a row, and you could look in from either room. Never bothered me in the slightest.

Little kids really don't give a crap (heh) about that sort of thing, and as PP said, it actually helps with toilet training.

#12 FeralSis

Posted 09 February 2013 - 07:04 PM

In more than 10 years and 4 different LDC's and preschools they have all had a row of communal toilets visible from the main room with no privacy whatsoever.

It is just the way it is in my experience.

I do understand from a safety point of view as the teachers and carers can't be everywhere at once.

FWIW, I've never heard of any kids being bothered by it.


#13 TotesFeral

Posted 09 February 2013 - 07:04 PM

It's the same at DDs preschool as well. Never bothered me the slightest.
DD likes to take herself off to the toilet without telling the teachers so a large window means they can see where she has gone without leaving the other kids. Plus they can monitor the other kids while assisting a child on the toilet.

Not sure what the issue is?

#14 FeralZombieMum

Posted 09 February 2013 - 07:05 PM

Same at the creches and preschools my kids have gone to.

Initially I felt like you - but it doesn't bother the kids and it doesn't affect them long term, my child at end of primary school would have no recollection that it was like this with her fellow classmates from 7 years earlier! wink.gif

#15 Mmmcheese

Posted 09 February 2013 - 07:05 PM

It's actually a requirement of the regulations that children be supervised at all times, we had to install mirrors so we could see more easily from the main room. It is to protect the children and the staff, but some children would prefer privacy.

#16 belinda1976

Posted 09 February 2013 - 07:06 PM

DD's preschool is one big open bathroom with 3 toilets all next to each other - no dividers at all.



#17 43 other ferals

Posted 09 February 2013 - 07:07 PM

I prefer it that way.  Since I'm just psyching myself up to begin TTg, I hope DS will learn by example. original.gif

#18 tick

Posted 09 February 2013 - 07:07 PM

Yes it's totally normal but it irks me too. I hated using the toilets at kinder because of it (and I only ever did 3yo kinder so I was very young but remember it vividly). In fact my own DD1 mentioned that she wished there were doors on thr toilets too. I was actually surprised because at home we rarely bother to close the door and I've never mentioned my own feelings on the matter, but I guess she has noticed that toilets to generally have doors .....

#19 Perpetual

Posted 09 February 2013 - 07:14 PM

QUOTE (fun_fairz @ 09/02/2013, 08:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Our LDC does not even have cubicles, it is an open room with sinks and change table facilities. They share the room with the toddlers next door.

Never even gave it a thought. The kids seem fine with it.


Totally normal. Our long daycare is the same, there is a shower in there as well, but the change tables are in a different section (closed in, but overlooking the toilets).

Kids that age normally wont care about privacy and it is about protecting them as well. You don't want a staff member to be able to lock themselves in a room with a child and other staff not be able see what is going on.

It really helped us with toilet training. The other boys taught DS how to stand up to pee wink.gif

#20 becstar101

Posted 09 February 2013 - 07:15 PM

Standard at kinder and child care. Necessary so that children can betoileted without being shut away and not visible from supervising teachers/carers.

#21 43 other ferals

Posted 09 February 2013 - 07:17 PM

Bummer - was kinda hoping DS might notice the girls sitting and take his cue from them.  Hate cleaning the toilet! wink.gif

#22 Space is Big

Posted 09 February 2013 - 07:19 PM

DD thinks going to the toilet is a spectator sport.  When I have gone to pick her up she has been on the toilet and having conversations with the other kids (on the loo or not) so privacy is not on her radar.  Considering kids still need their bum wiped while TT, I would be more concerned if she had privacy where an adult could be alone in a stall with her.

#23 liveworkplay

Posted 09 February 2013 - 07:22 PM

QUOTE (cinnabubble @ 09/02/2013, 07:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
This is bog standard (pardon the pun) in all places for pre-school children. It's safer for them in terms of supervision and aids toilet training by reinforcing peer group pressure. I've never been remotely concerned by it.



laughing2.gif Yep. Our LDC also just has one big room with toilets on one side, sinks on the other and change tables at the end. The first time I walked through and a child was "concentrating hard" on the toliet I was a little taken by surprise. But after 6 years of daycare, I do not even blink now.

#24 fun_fairz

Posted 09 February 2013 - 07:24 PM

I agree it helps with TT. My son was so resistant, his LDC suggested they start there, we went with it and he was trained in two days. Just a note he was over three so not trying to brag, he was just scared and within the kindy environment he could see other kids doing it and got the confidence to do it. It was like a game and he was well and truly ready.

#25 Veritas Vinum Arte

Posted 09 February 2013 - 07:26 PM

Yep as PP have said standard for daycare and preschool. I even remember my Kinder 35 years ago like that.






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