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#1 Davidh

Posted 08 February 2013 - 12:12 PM

Hi

Please tell me why parents choose to spend a fortune on accessories for children when they grow out of them so quickly. Would the baby notice if they were in a cheap stroller like your parents had? Or in designer clothes they will soon grow out of? Will they grow up to be a better person? I wonder if spoiling kids is a good thing. They will have enough trouble establishing a unique identity and a life as it is.
Is the baby thing about the parents wanting to show off to other parents?

#2 Bluestocking

Posted 08 February 2013 - 12:30 PM

If they want to waste money on something that's going to be spewed on and crapped on they can go for their lives!! No skin off my nose.

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#3 lafonda

Posted 08 February 2013 - 12:31 PM

Bored?

#4 Beltie

Posted 08 February 2013 - 12:34 PM

Interesting first post.

I can see that you have used question marks but it seems you don't really want an answer so I won't offer one.

#5 qak

Posted 08 February 2013 - 12:36 PM

QUOTE (Beltie @ 08/02/2013, 01:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Interesting first post.


I think he saw the price of a Bugaboo ...

#6 Funwith3

Posted 08 February 2013 - 12:37 PM

Because they want good quality?? And because they can? And for me - sometimes I like to drrss my girls nicely.

#7 Cacti

Posted 08 February 2013 - 12:38 PM

QUOTE (qak @ 08/02/2013, 12:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>


I think he saw the price of a Bugaboo ...


For fun, my mum told my brother that it's tradition that the baby's uncle pays for the pram, then showed him the price of a Bugaboo. Poor guy believed her too.

Edited by Cacti, 08 February 2013 - 12:38 PM.


#8 BadCat

Posted 08 February 2013 - 12:40 PM

Because people are weird.  Every last one of them.

#9 50ftqueenie

Posted 08 February 2013 - 12:40 PM

I know everyone has to post for the first time, but I find this an odd first post on a parenting forum. I'm not sure you meant this, but it comes across as very "parents these days are doing everything wrong" and you know what, I think we all get that message loud and clear.

If your question is genuine, just poorly worded. SOME parents spend a lot on baby things for the same reason anybody buys luxury goods. Sometimes it's a question of quality or design. Sometimes it's because they are show offs that attach value to superficial things.



#10 Davidh

Posted 08 February 2013 - 12:40 PM

hi everyone

its just that recently at work there have been a couple of births and when they bought the babies in i noticed first the prams and then the designer clothes and immediately thought of the cost and it reminded me of the knitware and the the stroller i was in. Fortunately for me two new parents came in at the same time and it was a interesting comparison.

#11 Beltie

Posted 08 February 2013 - 12:42 PM

QUOTE (O TheHugeManatee @ 08/02/2013, 01:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Because people are weird.  Every last one of them.

Is that why in your photo you are smirking behind your flipper as you judge us from the the ocean blue?

#12 BadCat

Posted 08 February 2013 - 12:43 PM

To be honest I've never figured out why people buy luxury goods and expensive prams and such either.  But you know what?  I'm sure there are people out there who don't understand why I do the things I do. shrug.gif


QUOTE
Is that why in your photo you are smirking behind your flipper as you judge us from the the ocean blue?


Tis not a smirk.   I'm covering my mouth as I burped just as the photo was taken.

Edited by O TheHugeManatee, 08 February 2013 - 12:44 PM.


#13 50ftqueenie

Posted 08 February 2013 - 12:45 PM

Just on the designer prams statement. Aside from a bugaboo I couldn't name another designer pram, but I notice a lot of people who had don't have young children feel the need to comment on my "fancy looking" stroller. It's a very ordinary steel craft strider, but for some reason there are people who think it looks fancy and probably assume I paid more than the $400 I paid. What I'm saying is, are you even sure these people had designer prams, or do they just look "designer" in comparison to the ones you remember?

#14 Futureself

Posted 08 February 2013 - 12:45 PM

QUOTE (Davidh @ 08/02/2013, 12:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
its just that recently at work there have been a couple of births and when they bought the babies in i noticed first the prams and then the designer clothes and immediately thought of the cost and it reminded me of the knitware and the the stroller i was in. Fortunately for me two new parents came in at the same time and it was a interesting comparison.

If you can notice and pick designer clothes and designer prams just by looking at them then you're obviously quite familiar with them yourself  wink.gif

Plus, "brand name clothing" is available cheap second hand at OP shops, as hand me downs for free or given as gifts. Same as Prams and any other gear you can think of.

Plus, who cares? Very mean spirited of you when your workmates just wanted to show you their baby,pity you couldn't just be happy for them.

#15 50ftqueenie

Posted 08 February 2013 - 12:45 PM

Just on the designer prams statement. Aside from a bugaboo I couldn't name another designer pram, but I notice a lot of people who had don't have young children feel the need to comment on my "fancy looking" stroller. It's a very ordinary steel craft strider, but for some reason there are people who think it looks fancy and probably assume I paid more than the $400 I paid. What I'm saying is, are you even sure these people had designer prams, or do they just look "designer" in comparison to the ones you remember?


Edited by 50ftqueenie, 08 February 2013 - 12:45 PM.


#16 ElevenYears

Posted 08 February 2013 - 12:46 PM

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Would the baby notice if they were in a cheap stroller like your parents had?


Well duh.  Of course the stroller is somewhat about the parent. The parents are the ones who have to push it, lift it, store it, fold it, fit it through checkouts, clean it, manoeuvre it etc.  It's not stupidity or vanity that makes a well designed pram worth every cent you pay for it.

Those little pushchair things are hideous.  The ergonomics of them are bad for almost everyone.



#17 Davidh

Posted 08 February 2013 - 12:56 PM

thanks for all the feedback.
you are right I wouldnt know a designer pram from the next but spending a lot of money on clothes and strollers seems a bit of a wasted exercise, to be honest do the kids know what they look like or what they are riding in? And they grow out of them anyway. Its true that you like to show off the baby/s and dressing them up is nice for sure.

#18 Bam1

Posted 08 February 2013 - 12:56 PM

You're welcome to knit all your children's clothes and to modify your billy cart to a stroller for your own child, but why care so much that others don't want to live in the past and partake more of modern facilities.

You seem to be ready to be a parent, you've got the judging down pat!

Edited by Bam1, 08 February 2013 - 12:57 PM.


#19 sophiasmum

Posted 08 February 2013 - 01:00 PM

We don't buy designer, we shop at Target, but I like my kids to look nice & presentable.

Lately it's been more about spending on experiences for them (eg. taking them to Luna Park, taking them to a few movies, hiring a beach house holiday, mini break to Surfers for the theme parks, enrolling them in dance classes or swimming lessons) than about "things" or possessions.

#20 ~nikki~

Posted 08 February 2013 - 01:01 PM

I want them to waste money so then when they don't need it they sell it cheaply and I score a bargin!

#21 50ftqueenie

Posted 08 February 2013 - 01:02 PM

QUOTE (Davidh @ 08/02/2013, 01:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
thanks for all the feedback.
you are right I wouldnt know a designer pram from the next but spending a lot of money on clothes and strollers seems a bit of a wasted exercise, to be honest do the kids know what they look like or what they are riding in? And they grow out of them anyway. Its true that you like to show off the baby/s and dressing them up is nice for sure.


Are you genuinely asking EB members "what do you think." Or are you just here to tell us what you think?

#22 Davidh

Posted 08 February 2013 - 01:11 PM

50ftqueenie - its a bit of both i guess. Input from people who do give their kids everthing they can would be teh ones I would love to hear their thoughts and opinions.
but so many cant and may be influenced to try and buy things beyond their means.
im wondering if it actually affects the childrens maturing and development. I know i had no where near the things that are available now. I think i turned out well.

#23 tenar

Posted 08 February 2013 - 01:14 PM

I buy my kids mostly designer clothes.  I buy them on special online for the same price or lower as your Target or KMart clothes.  They look good and that pleases the person who has to spend hours each week washing, drying, sorting and putting them away.  Which is me, of course.  Babies can poo, spew and get food all over more outfits in a day than you'd think possible until you have one.

I find that the brands I buy are (mostly) much better quality and last much better than the cheap stuff I have occasionally bought.  Some of the stuff I bought for DD1 has now been worn by 4 kids (not all of them mine) and is still going strong, just as my kids have worn clothes borrowed from others.

So, for me, it's cheaper, better for the environment, looks better and makes my daily work more pleasant.  Do you have a problem with that, OP?  

I have a bugaboo pram.  It was bought by loving grandparents for a first grandchild and yes, it was expensive.  It is going strong with its 3rd child now (again, not all of them mine).  It made it possible for us to live without a car for 2 years after having my first.  It is a pleasure to use and, as such, makes my daily work easier.  

So the pram also has saved my family money and effort and been far better for the environment than other alternatives.  Again, what's the problem with that, OP?  


I think it's a bit sad that when your colleagues brought their babies into the office (dressed, no doubt, in their best to giggle and smile in all their baby glory), all you could think about was the brands of stuff they were wearing, without guessing that there could be some non-trivial reasons for them choosing those things.  How petty.

Edited by tenar, 08 February 2013 - 01:15 PM.


#24 Mudpie

Posted 08 February 2013 - 01:18 PM

Because there is no way the $2 clothes from kmart can be ethically made  tongue.gif

Of all the things to worry about... If a baby is clothed, does it really matter by what?

Edited by Mudpie, 08 February 2013 - 01:21 PM.


#25 50ftqueenie

Posted 08 February 2013 - 01:29 PM

OP I think the subject is far more complicated than designer baby goods. The throw away consumer society we live in is damaging. Raising spoilt children who value only material things is damaging. None of this is news. I think most people try to balance the desire to spoil their children with the desire to raise good, decent people. How we do this would be a more interesting discussion than blanket statements about kids these days having too much.




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