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Chrissie Swan smoking while pregnant


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#1 Satay Chicken

Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:10 PM

http://www.essentialbaby.com.au/pregnancy/...0206-2dxw7.html


Really bad form!!!!!  nno2.gif

#2 FeralBob!

Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:14 PM

FFS, nicotine is one of the most addictive substances there is. At least she knows it's wrong and seems to be doing her best to get over it.

#3 missjoads1234

Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:15 PM

I know i agree. Yet i read in another article she "has her reasons" why she is still smoking, so that makes it ok  wacko.gif Heaps of women were commenting saying its obviously she's additted, therefore she cant help it. I wonder if she had ever contemplated quitting before TTC?

#4 Feral Mozzie

Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:16 PM

And this affects your life how?

#5 Fabulous

Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:18 PM

That's terrible. If she couldn't quit smoking then she shouldn't have TTC. Simple.

#6 Natttmumm

Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:21 PM

She needs support to quit. Not criticism.



#7 busymumof1&1/2

Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:24 PM

So now if you smoke you can't have children. huh.gif
Quitting smoking is difficult, and can take many attempts. As a now nonsmoker I say, all of you who have not taken a puff do not have the right to judge.

Edit - to make sense

Edited by busymumof1&1/2, 06 February 2013 - 12:24 PM.


#8 deejie

Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:25 PM

Smoking during pregnancy is not illegal. It is however, incredibly stupid and the fact that she hides away in shame to smoke means she knows how stupid it is. ("It is bad. And I also told them it was a deeply shameful secret no one knows...not my mum, not my best friend, not my partner.'')

Another reason why I never want to be a "celebrity" in any form. Just because she does something stupid doesn't mean she should be dragged through a public sh*tstorm.

#9 Milly Molly Mandy

Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:26 PM

Why would anyone want to be in the public eye?


#10 haras1972

Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:26 PM

Listen to it here... http://www.mix1011.com.au/shows/breakfast/...sies-confession

I'm actually really surprised - I read her columns in the Age, generally am aware of her, and I never thought she'd be smoking during pregnancy.

I do feel for her - she was genuinely upset in this recording, and also to have it be exposed to her partner, family, the public, her sons etc - my DH would be livid to find out I'd been hiding something that I was doing from him that could potentially affect the health of our child.

Edited by haras1972, 06 February 2013 - 12:28 PM.


#11 cinnabubble

Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:27 PM

She didn't TTC. She had an unexpected pregnancy. And, quite frankly, five cigarettes a day is probably not worth losing too much sleep over.

#12 Tammy Swanson

Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:28 PM

Good grief  ohmy.gif  She is going to be in so much trouble with everyone..... as an ex smoker I how hard it is to give up.... lordy it is so so hard but she really should have sought help as soon as she started up again which was it seems was a good 6 months before she fell pregnant again.

As a side note, she is is heavily, heavily overweight and she smokes as well...it boggles the mind really at the risk she is putting her health at again and again and again. It seems she conveniently forgot to mention she was a smoker when she wrote all those articles last year telling everyone to shut up and that she is yes, very overweight but she had a very healthy lifestyle and had no health issues.....mmmmn

I do feel for the hell she is about to go through though

#13 seepi

Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:28 PM

she's hardly alone in this. Giving up smoking is incredibly hard. If you have never smoked you can't really understand it - it is like telling a really really thirsty person to not have a drink ever again. It just doesn't go out of you mind all day long.

She knows it is wrong, she is doing her best.

#14 Futhermore

Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:29 PM

QUOTE
FFS, nicotine is one of the most addictive substances there is. At least she knows it's wrong and seems to be doing her best to get over it.


Exactly.

QUOTE
That's terrible. If she couldn't quit smoking then she shouldn't have TTC. Simple.


From reading the article, I get the idea she was not TTC.  It was a surprise pregnancy.





#15 CallMeFeral

Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:32 PM

I expected to come on here and shake my head.

But seriously, what's with the judgement? It's not like she's standing there out and proud and fine with it - it's a battle for her, addiction is HARD, smoking addiction is one of the hardest, she's TRYING to quit - she's quit before - she's failed a couple of times... haven't we all done this? Have all of us been able, 100% of the time, to do what we know is best for ourselves and our children as opposed to what was easiest? Seriously? 100% ?

I don't see any point in berating her for being human. She's giving it a red hot go, and good luck to her, I hope she succeeds. I'd be upset if she thought what she was doing was ok. But she's just another human being, trying their hardest.

#16 tickly_rain

Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:32 PM

I've never smoked, so can't begin to imagine how difficult it would be to quit.

She knows it's not sensible, you can hear the guilt/sadness (whatever you want to call it) in her voice.

I just don't get the whole lynch mob thing.

#17 iheartu

Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:33 PM

Here we go  rolleyes.gif

Judgey mcjudgerson's will have a field day with this one... Something else to feel all superior about.



#18 glasnost

Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:38 PM

QUOTE (CallMeProtart @ 06/02/2013, 01:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I expected to come on here and shake my head.

But seriously, what's with the judgement? It's not like she's standing there out and proud and fine with it - it's a battle for her, addiction is HARD, smoking addiction is one of the hardest, she's TRYING to quit - she's quit before - she's failed a couple of times... haven't we all done this? Have all of us been able, 100% of the time, to do what we know is best for ourselves and our children as opposed to what was easiest? Seriously? 100% ?

I don't see any point in berating her for being human. She's giving it a red hot go, and good luck to her, I hope she succeeds. I'd be upset if she thought what she was doing was ok. But she's just another human being, trying their hardest.


So true. I know it is different to smoking but drank coffee throughout my pregnancies (not first trimester but only because it made me feel ill) and while breastfeeding. I know that it isn't the best option for my babies but I did it anyway. I am not perfect, most of the time I put my kids first however in this case I was pretty selfish.

She has put herself (and her family) into the public domain and so to a certain extent she has to expect intrusions into her privacy however I really feel for her here.

#19 BadCat

Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:38 PM

QUOTE (Fabulous @ 06/02/2013, 01:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's terrible. If she couldn't quit smoking then she shouldn't have TTC. Simple.


Yep.  Smokers should forgo children.  So should fat people.  And people who drink acohol.  And anyone who will pass on a predispostion to chronic illness.  And ugly people.   rolleyes.gif

So she's human.  Who cares?

#20 Jax12

Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:40 PM

From the article
QUOTE
Swan said: "These (were) not excuses, there is no excuse for smoking ... absolutely none.''

Her confession came just days after Swan says she was photographed "having a sneaky cigarette'' and had begged the paparazzo to "not write the story'' of her secret shame "because I know how bad it looks.''

"It is bad. And I also told them it was a deeply shameful secret no one knows...not my mum, not my best friend, not my partner.''

"And here's the truth ... obviously I know it's wrong, I'm not an idiot. No smoker wants to smoke, especially when they're pregnant but it is clearly an addiction and a very serious one.''

She said it had "cloud(ed) her judgement and can make the unthinkable somehow okay.''

Speaking to her audience she said: "As a listener to this show, you know I'm devoted to my children. I would never do anything to harm them and yet, here I am having five cigarettes and justifying it. It's madness, I cannot explain it.''



Read more: http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celeb...5#ixzz2K5ArhWYK

I feel for her being in the public eye and having to share something that she's so incredibly ashamed of.  

For me though, this is a black and white issue.  I know all about addiction.  I know first hand how hard it is.  I still think it's a black and white issue while pregnant.  I accept that there are heaps of people who disagree with me.  I'm trying really hard to not let this taint my opinion of Chrissy Swan because I relate to a lot of what she writes about...but I'm not going to lie; I'm disappointed to read this.

#21 EBeditor

Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:41 PM

I have just linked our coverage of the story at the top of the thread. Chrissie is one of our most popular columnists,  and the thing that people repeatedly say they love about her is her honesty.

Quitting smoking is incredibly hard, and I respect how honest she has been in a live confession about it.

We hope she can get help to quit and we will continue to run her columns and support her.

#22 Mrs Manager

Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:42 PM

That poor women.  She was clearly struggling with it, was trying to stop, and now its out there for the whole world to condemn her.

#23 ~sydblue~

Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:43 PM

QUOTE (iheartu @ 06/02/2013, 01:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Here we go  rolleyes.gif

Judgey mcjudgerson's will have a field day with this one... Something else to feel all superior about.

I agree.
I am so tired of the women whose lives are so perfect and trouble free, that they have nothing better to do than judge others and put them down.
Just because quitting is easy for some, does not make it easy for others. Some people are more prone to addiction than others.

#24 FeralBob!

Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:46 PM

QUOTE (~maryanne~ @ 06/02/2013, 01:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
From reading the article, I get the idea she was not TTC.  It was a surprise pregnancy.


Well, then the PPB would insist she have an abortion, because obviously that's a better solution than having a few cigarettes while pregnant  rolleyes.gif

#25 ekbaby

Posted 06 February 2013 - 12:49 PM

I feel sorry for her. I hope that after this incident she is able to get the support she needs to be able to quit, whether that's from a psychologist/counsellor, quitline, her family etc.

What does publicly flogging her achieve? Clearly she's not unaware of the risks so beating her over the head with more information about how bad it is is not going to change anything.

Actually, publicly shaming pregnant women who smoke (or use other drugs) can achieve the opposite. Chrissie knew that what she was doing was not good for her baby, and felt so ashamed about it she didn't tell anyone- her partner, family etc- I wonder if she even felt that she could disclose it to her Dr or medical providers when asked? How many women don't tell their midwife or doctor because of shame? That's shutting off a potential avenue of getting support and help to try and quit (medical products etc) or to learn about possible harm minimisation strategies (I'm not sure about smoking, but I know with some other drugs, it is much better for the health of the fetus to be having a stable dose of methadone, than a mix of street drugs where the strength/dose is inconsistent)




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