Jump to content
barking dog problems
8 replies to this topic
Posted 05 February 2013 - 08:44 AM
we have a new rescue pup (11 month old kelpie/heeler x) who never stops barking. We also have an older 3yo same breed girl who we had some barking issues (some might remember my post about her barking at insurance ads) that we now have under control. But our new girl barks constantly at everything - from tv to neighbours to possums on the roof to birds, to our other dog if she doesn't play, at DH or DS1 if they move and even waves at the beach.
She is well exercised - 2 x 5km runs on the beach daily with DH where she runs & swims significantly further. She has toys galore, playing cricket with DS1 for hours every day, comes inside overnight and for an hour or so during the day for attention. There are toys outside, chooks that she gets to help round up of an afternoon.
How do we stop her barking before neighbours start complaining?
Posted 05 February 2013 - 08:53 AM
The only thing that has stopped my boy barking is a barking collar, I picked a citranola (sp?) one up on eBay. I have replaced it once in 3 years (just recently) because it all ceased up but I know others that have spent $300 and have had to replace it in the same time so I feel the cheap one is very fine.
Posted 05 February 2013 - 08:55 AM
This breed of dog is a working dog and they love to bark and work everything they can find and barking is part of the scenario. I think you will have to invest in a barking collar to try and break the way your dog is thinking.
Posted 05 February 2013 - 04:38 PM
Kelpies love to bark. Especially at Sheep. Even pretend and invisible ones. They can imagine sheep just about anywhere, and suspect sheep are excellent at disguising themselves as other objects.
I'd start with a squirt gun, and a BAH! Basically, if she's barking when not supposed to - she's taking over your 'job', which is to decide what is a 'threat' and what is not. So, when she barks, you use a deep angry man voice and yell BAH! at her, when she's quiet (which should happen pretty much immediately if you manage to shock her a bit), you go back to your normal voice, and tell her 'good dog'. Lots of praise for the quiet. If BAH doesn't cut it, re-inforce BAH with a squirt gun.
I'd also suggest a behavioural trainer who specialises in barkers to come visit. They will have lots of suggestions for reducing the things that are prompting the barking (like obscuring views of people walking past the house, etc), and get into some things that may reduce random barking a fair bit.
Also, crate train so you can 'curfew' the bark overnight. Bring them in at 8:30pm, and let them out at 7:00am. We do this with our 3, although our combined pack doesn't bark as much as the neighbour's Jack Russell.
Finally, if all of the above fails, step up to a sonic or citronella bark collar. Please avoid the shock collars - they hurt, and they're illegal in most states.
Posted 05 February 2013 - 06:33 PM
The good thing about kelpies and heelers - they can be a handful at the start, but they are so smart and keen to train that with a little bit of work you can get a whole lot back
I currently have kelpies, they're going to be on a suburban block for about the next month and they haven't worked a sheep in 4 months. They get about half the exercise in the OP but they've been asleep all day even though they haven't been walked. They weren't always like this, so I'll put down a few things that helped:
- Clicker training. Smart dogs need their brains worked as much as their bodies. Everyday training of tricks, household chores, obedience, agility, whatever, just 5 minutes or less a few times a day. Shaping exercises like 101 things to do with a box (on google) keep that brain active too.
- Reinforcing calm. Lying relaxed on their bed will be rewarded. Frozen kongs are good for this too.
- Teach a "quiet" "inside" and "on your bed" to interrupt the barking when it starts and redirect to something else. The "quiet" cue I taught by holding a treat in front of their face until they shut up to look at it, then marked and rewarded that behaviour, then increased the time they had to be quiet before I rewarded.
- If you have any herding training near you it's a great outlet for them and heaps of fun
Punishing might stop the barking, but she's barking for a reason. Make sure you give her another option to release that energy or it might be digging or chewing next! I grew up with a heeler x kelpie so have a huge soft spot for them
Posted 05 February 2013 - 07:33 PM
Thanks for the ideas. She has come to us with zero training at all really so its obvious why she was being rehomed the poor thing. We have used clicker training for basic obedience and when she is doing the work we give her and it has gone well for that. With the barking not so well though.
We are currently trying the whole BAH thing to try to stop her excited jumping all over & nipping at greeting for visitors so will try that with the barking. Using a squirt gun might be tricky as we have tried that with her & she has a tendency to lunge snapping at the squirter atm. She does have several kongs around the yard outside with her but just buries them.
ChexMix - they sure are great dogs once trained. We are on just under an acre & find that our older girl now will go for her runs & spend the rest of the time sleeping or pottering around after DS. She is getting a late start to the training but has learnt most things pretty quickly. Unfortunately no herding places around here but DH has taught her a bit with the chickens which she loves. She did actually come to us with a massive digging problem but getting enough exercise seems to have helped with that.
We do have her in from around 7pm & we are gradually getting there with crate training but find unless she goes out to toilet at around midnight she go nuts between 3-4am to go out so we have the choice of barking outside before we go to bed or the early hours.
Posted 05 February 2013 - 07:42 PM
BAH is not so effective for jumping and nipping.
Do this instead. Oh, and play it when your dogs can hear it. Watch their faces - too funny.
(this is me and my dogs - by the way).
DH and I have an agreement. He does the late night pit stop (close to midnight, he's a night owl), and I do the morning one (small child insists on mummy being awake too).
Do you have any training/obedience clubs near you? I use clicker training for most of my clients - its by far and away the most effective method. Works well for most working dogs too.
Posted 05 February 2013 - 08:00 PM
love Buttercup's reaction Spikey. I forgot all about the screaming when she jumps - with the other one we stopped her with a loud puppy squeal that worked well so will try that instead. Unfortunately no clubs nearby - we are definitely planning on travelling to take her to a club (thinking of doing agility with her) but will have to wait until we have DS2 home finally whenever that happens to logistically be able to.
Older dog was running in circles around the laptop as if trying to work out how to get to the dogs when we watched it. Younger one had one ear up, one day cocking her head
Posted 05 February 2013 - 08:06 PM
The smart ones wonder how the dogs got into your computer....
0 user(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users
Kelly Clarkson has shown off the first photos of her son, Remington Alexander Blackstock.
Birth is an unpredictable, mysterious process that intrigues us all, and there is a lot of misinformation out there.
A US mother has been shot by her toddler while driving on a highway in Wisconsin.
The seven-minute-work out is old news. Research shows the effectiveness of going hell-for-leather for just one minute.
Pregnant woman in country Australia will help Adelaide researchers figure out why cases of type 1 diabetes have doubled over the past two decades.
It's the perfect solution to combat those toddler meltdowns when they no longer want to be in a pram but can't walk long distances.
A pit bull mix that fatally bit a 3-day-old infant last week has been euthanised, authorities said.
While meeting with a lactation consultant can make an enormous difference to a new mother, it's not a service that is available through the public health system.
Members of a popular forum are fiercely debating whether it is acceptable to dislike a friend's child.
A pregnant woman who unexpectedly gave birth on a flight has named her new baby after the airline, Jetstar.
Children living in foster care can feel like their future is less than clear. But that uncertainty disappears the day they are adopted by their "forever family"
When the cramps started to kick in, Klara Dollan just assumed a painful period was starting.
Kerryn has a unusual present planned for daughter Imi's 13th birthday celebrations - she hopes to be able to be able to give the soon-to-be the teenager her first ever photo of her dad.
Our houses are cleaner than ever before. But how clean is too clean? Could a sterile home be putting your family's health at risk?
Here's a puzzle that grows with them; the Puzzle Grow Pack by Millions of Monkeys.
If you grew up in the 90s you might want to look to the genre of Britpop music for baby name inspiration.
When you catch a bug that causes acute infectious gastroenteritis (gastro), your stomach and intestinal tract become inflamed, causing diarrhoea, nausea, vomiting, abdominal cramping and pain. The last thing you probably feel like doing is eating.
Would I have survived if I hadn't crossed that street?
Caitlin is a firm believer in the importance of immunisation to protect children from harmful and deadly diseases.
There is no make-up or special outfits and hairdos, but the five-year-old boy who took this picture captured the essence of motherhood as well as any professional photographer.
Studies have shown that infants in the first months of life try to avoid dealing with social wrongdoers - for example, sharing less with them and helping them less - and they expect others to, too.
Top 5 Articles
Bethani Webb was excited to find out she was pregnant, but the first time mum did not realise she was carrying four babies not one.
A Sydney cafe is offering breastfeeding mums free cups of tea in a bid to show support for the right of women to nurse their babies wherever they choose.
Jamie Oliver, who considered a vasectomy, is to be a father again. A fellow dad reflects on his own decision 11 years ago
To everyone's surprise, Kristen Miller "kept doing better each day", keeping her second baby safe.
Before my son was born I was given a lovely baby book full of blank pages waiting to be filled with weights and heights and first words.
There is no doubt seeing their child smile for the first time is an unforgettable moment for parents everywhere.
When Alison Johnson put her 18-month-old Caleb down for a nap, she had no reason to believe her son was in any danger.
All my panic and tears aside, my biggest question looking back is about the kind of security measures used in the maternity ward.
Everyone who visits a mum in hospital in the days following childbirth wants to get a photo with the new baby.
Finally, there's a way to keep warm while breastfeeding through winter.
What to do with this information? My advice would be to try not to think about it during the throes of passion.
From niplash to tight boobs, biting to milk supply issues, Pinky McKay looks at common breastfeeding issues and how to solve them.
Six months on we're all still alive, and the more we get to know each other the easier the days become.
Kirsty Carrington thought nothing of giving her newborn son a kiss, little did she know it would leave the baby fighting for life.
After children, 'me time' looks a little different.
A stroller can make or break travelling with a baby or toddler. Here are 15 great single travel stroller options.
It always pays to remind yourself of how terrific toddlers can be - they're little like this for such a short time
This is the comp for you! We have $800 worth of Myer gift cards and boxes of Australian Bananas to be won. Entry is simple: just post a pic of your little one enjoying a banana in the comments of the FB post to enter.