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#1 amabanana

Posted 04 February 2013 - 12:59 PM

DD went to sleep easily last night, without complaint and at a 'normal' time.   After almost 6 years of frustration for both of us I only wish we'd started sooner.

Thank you melatonin.   ddance.gif

WOOOO HOOOOOO~~~~~!!!!!!!!


Update: It's been about 5 nights of DD getting proper sleep and the change is incredible.   She's concentrating better (relatively, given she has ADHD), is less moody and less defiant.  She got herself up this morning before everyone else, got dressed and made her breakfast, made her bed etc etc  I came out thinking she was still asleep only to find her sitting at the table drawing a picture.  Amazing!  She's almost a different kid and I can't believe my eyes!  Her teachers are also suitably impressed with her behavior this week.  ddance.gif
Now to see if it continues.....  hands.gif

Update #2

It's been nearly 2 mths now. We tried one night off to see what would happen and it took an extra 3 hours for DD to get to sleep!  We were kind of hoping that using it may have reset her clock.  Nope.
I have to say it's been like some kind of miracle potion.  DD still has ADHD but getting more sleep has resulted in less meltdowns and relatively better concentration.  If only it weren't so damned expensive and was available on the PBS.

Edited by amabanana, 25 March 2013 - 06:49 PM.


#2 Bodacious Prime

Posted 04 February 2013 - 01:03 PM

It sure does, absolutely changed our lives.

#3 Therese

Posted 04 February 2013 - 01:05 PM

What fantastic news biggrin.gif I have heard that it is amazing!

#4 amabanana

Posted 04 February 2013 - 01:07 PM

QUOTE (Bodacious Prime @ 04/02/2013, 02:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It sure does, absolutely changed our lives.


I'm hoping for that too.  I really do think a proportion of the behavioral issues we have are because of chronic sleep deprivation.

#5 ZombieMum

Posted 04 February 2013 - 01:10 PM

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#6 Cirrus

Posted 04 February 2013 - 01:21 PM

Isn't melatonin only allowed for those over 55 years old, for maximum of 3 weeks?

or are you using the 'homeopathic' variety with no active ingredients?

#7 sarahs_three

Posted 04 February 2013 - 01:25 PM

You can buy it from over the states and it gets sent out.
I brought 2 bottles and it was under $30 for the both inc postage.
Works wonders for DP who would otherwise wake up every hour normally.

#8 amabanana

Posted 04 February 2013 - 01:26 PM

QUOTE (Cirrus @ 04/02/2013, 02:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Isn't melatonin only allowed for those over 55 years old, for maximum of 3 weeks?

or are you using the 'homeopathic' variety with no active ingredients?



I guess not.

This is a script from a GP, not a fairy.   wink.gif

#9 Dame Twoinaboat

Posted 04 February 2013 - 01:30 PM

Melatonin is commonly used for kids with ASD who have sleep difficulties.  I was about to got there myself for my son too after his sleep turned to the pits but he seems to be getting back there.

Great news OP!

#10 Maple Leaf

Posted 04 February 2013 - 01:31 PM

DH takes melatonin for his insomnia, has really helped.

We get it from the states. original.gif

#11 Cirrus

Posted 04 February 2013 - 01:32 PM

QUOTE (amabanana @ 04/02/2013, 02:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I guess not.

This is a script from a GP, not a fairy.   wink.gif



My GP gave me a script of it from Jetlag, but it was not a real script just printed on script paper, since it was for the homeopathic kind (ie like printing 'bottled water' on script paper - no need).
I thought 'WOHOO' until I got to the pharmacy and said 'have the laws changed now?' and the pharmacist said - no Aussie Authorities let the homeopathic one on shelves because it doesn't really contain Melatonin (or 1 part per 3 million grams or whatever it says on the label).

So it doesn't put you off that Australian therapeutic goods administration don't allow the real product into Australian pharmacies, except for 55+ year olds?

#12 Cirrus

Posted 04 February 2013 - 01:35 PM

QUOTE (Duffy29 @ 04/02/2013, 02:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Melatonin is commonly used for kids with ASD who have sleep difficulties.  I was about to got there myself for my son too after his sleep turned to the pits but he seems to be getting back there.

Great news OP!



Oh OK, how interesting. So off-label prescribing by primary carer. I wonder how many others are having relief. Good luck w your family zzzzzzz OP

#13 FlutterbyBlue

Posted 04 February 2013 - 01:38 PM

QUOTE (Cirrus @ 04/02/2013, 02:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Isn't melatonin only allowed for those over 55 years old, for maximum of 3 weeks?

or are you using the 'homeopathic' variety with no active ingredients?



*Disclaimer*  - I am permanently 39, so, in this situation, obviously a special case.  wink.gif

My doctor gives me a 6 month prescription, so I am guessing the 3 weeks only thing doesn't apply.  Also, having said that, I now get it sent over from America as I can get 4 months supply for the price of 1 months worth here.  It works beautifully, I love it. biggrin.gif



#14 ZombieMum

Posted 04 February 2013 - 01:38 PM

QUOTE (Cirrus @ 04/02/2013, 02:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Isn't melatonin only allowed for those over 55 years old, for maximum of 3 weeks?

or are you using the 'homeopathic' variety with no active ingredients?

The homeopathic version is a joke. wink.gif


You're thinking of Circadin?

As Duffy29 has posted, Melatonin is commonly used for kids with an Autism Spectrum Disorder, as it's thought they produce less of this hormone.

In Australia, a number of years ago you could purchase Melatonin over the counter without a script, and was often used for jet lag. These days we can ask the Paediatrician to write a script, and a compounding pharmacist can make it up.
Some parents prefer to purchase it from the USA as it's much cheaper.

#15 amabanana

Posted 04 February 2013 - 01:43 PM

Well, thanks Cirrus for your imformative post.  I thought I posted in good news not 'let's have a discussion on the use of melatonin.'  My bad.

#16 amabanana

Posted 04 February 2013 - 01:46 PM

QUOTE (Back2Insanity @ 04/02/2013, 02:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My child has been on it for about 8 months and unfortunately it's usefulness goes up and down. Atm it's the latter


That's good to know.   Thanks.

#17 ZombieMum

Posted 04 February 2013 - 01:46 PM

QUOTE (Cirrus @ 04/02/2013, 02:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My GP gave me a script of it from Jetlag, but it was not a real script just printed on script paper, since it was for the homeopathic kind (ie like printing 'bottled water' on script paper - no need).
I thought 'WOHOO' until I got to the pharmacy and said 'have the laws changed now?' and the pharmacist said - no Aussie Authorities let the homeopathic one on shelves because it doesn't really contain Melatonin (or 1 part per 3 million grams or whatever it says on the label).

So it doesn't put you off that Australian therapeutic goods administration don't allow the real product into Australian pharmacies, except for 55+ year olds?

You can certainly buy the homeopathic version over the counter in Australia.
http://www.bioglan.com.au/common-needs/hom...atonin-90s.html
When we were trying to source Melatonin, a few pharmacies tried to sell us this.  rolleyes.gif

Your GP might have thought you could still get the real stuff over the counter, so didn't know about the law change? Or perhaps they gave you a script for the placebo effect.  ph34r.gif

Can't remember when the laws changed, but a year or 2 after it did change, our Paediatrician didn't believe I needed a script for my DD.

Back2Insanity, they sometimes need a break from it - about a week - that's what it was when I last researched it. My DD doesn't take it during school holidays.

#18 Cirrus

Posted 04 February 2013 - 01:48 PM

QUOTE (amabanana @ 04/02/2013, 02:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, thanks Cirrus for your imformative post.  I thought I posted in good news not 'let's have a discussion on the use of melatonin.'  My bad.



Hi A,
I think it's great news, I just had the wrong end of the stick. Especially great news that not only do you have access to it - that it's already working for you.
Sorry for my monotone typing - I was curious not meaning to be critical
best wishes to you and others
C

#19 TiredbutHappy

Posted 04 February 2013 - 01:51 PM

I can't properly express in words how much I love Melatonin in our household.   tongue.gif

#20 amabanana

Posted 04 February 2013 - 01:52 PM

QUOTE (Cirrus @ 04/02/2013, 02:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi A,
I think it's great news, I just had the wrong end of the stick. Especially great news that not only do you have access to it - that it's already working for you.
Sorry for my monotone typing - I was curious not meaning to be critical
best wishes to you and others
C



No worries.

It did take about a week to be really effective.  I just hope it continues because the change in her daytime behavior is incredible.  Less grumpy.  Less emotional.  No tanties.  Concentrating better.  You have no idea how awesome this is.

#21 ZombieMum

Posted 04 February 2013 - 01:56 PM

QUOTE (Cirrus @ 04/02/2013, 02:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh OK, how interesting. So off-label prescribing by primary carer. I wonder how many others are having relief. Good luck w your family zzzzzzz OP

Missed this one.

It's not off-label prescribing!

It's a private script.


In regards to the "script" that your GP wrote - well mine does that too - but she's not writing me an actual script, it's easier for her to print her recommendations than to write it by hand. Plus by writing it via her script program, she also has a record in her system to show that she's recommended x,y,z medication at that appointment. I've had Vitamin D printed on a script form - she said it wasn't a script to hand over to the Pharmacist, and that I could get any Vitamin D, but she was recommending this one. Also had ointments and other meds printed off on a 'script form' that you can get over the counter without a script.


#22 unicorn

Posted 04 February 2013 - 01:56 PM

Where do you purchase it from? Links please?

PM me if you prefer, thanks


#23 ali-song

Posted 04 February 2013 - 02:05 PM

QUOTE (ZombieMum @ 04/02/2013, 02:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Missed this one.

It's not off-label prescribing!

It's a private script.

Well... as far as I can see, the labelled indication is "Monotherapy for the short term treatment (up to three weeks) of primary insomnia characterized by poor quality of sleep in patients who are aged 55 or over." So any prescribing outside of that indication is off-label. Doesn't mean it's illegal/wrong etc.

But I agree, Melatonin does rock. Jet lag is now a thing of the past for me.

#24 ZombieMum

Posted 04 February 2013 - 02:10 PM

QUOTE (ali-song @ 04/02/2013, 03:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well... as far as I can see, the labelled indication is "Monotherapy for the short term treatment (up to three weeks) of primary insomnia characterized by poor quality of sleep in patients who are aged 55 or over." So any prescribing outside of that indication is off-label. Doesn't mean it's illegal/wrong etc.

That's for Circadin? A slow release melatonin?

We're talking about a private script that a compounding pharmacist makes up - not a script for Circadin. wink.gif

#25 amabanana

Posted 04 February 2013 - 02:37 PM

QUOTE (ZombieMum @ 04/02/2013, 03:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
That's for Circadin? A slow release melatonin?

We're talking about a private script that a compounding pharmacist makes up - not a script for Circadin. wink.gif



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It's a child's dosage, based on her weight and is not slow release. Made up by a compounding chemist.

Can't anyone celebrate around here without things turning into a debate?  ohmy.gif

Unless you are a medical professional who knows what you are talking about can you please refrain from commenting on it's use?  dry.gif




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