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#1 LookMumNoHands

Posted 03 February 2013 - 06:29 PM

Hey all,

I've been reading an ancient copy of The Wishing Chair to my boys each night, and want to start on The Faraway Tree next, but am missing the first in the series.

I know they reprinted it, with new names for D!ck, Fanny and Dame Slap, but is the rest of the old fashioned way her books are written changed too?

I think part of the thing the kids enjoy about these books is the way they are written, and I'd hate to buy a new copy for them to be disappointed.

Thanks if anyone can help!

#2 pinksmurf

Posted 03 February 2013 - 06:33 PM

The Enchanted Wood
The Magic Faraway Tree
The Folk of the Faraway Tree

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** there is also another wishing chair, The Wishing Chair Again

Edited by pinksmurf, 03 February 2013 - 06:35 PM.


#3 DonnaNobelHasBeenS

Posted 03 February 2013 - 06:40 PM

Hi. They have just changed the names. d*ck is Rick, Fanny is Franny and can't remember Dame Slaps new name. Pretty pathetic they changed it really, but the rest of the words are the same. You can GED the CD versions which Kate Winslet reads, which are pretty good too.
Enjoy

#4 namie

Posted 03 February 2013 - 06:41 PM

I've been on the lookout for original ones in second hand shops for years.

I refuse to buy any new versions as I loved the old ones so much and see nothing wrong with them. They were some of my favourite stories as a child.

#5 LookMumNoHands

Posted 03 February 2013 - 06:41 PM

blush.gif Sorry! My question wasn't very clear! I just want to know if the new versions are still written in old fashioned style?

#6 Kreme

Posted 03 February 2013 - 06:42 PM

I read the originals when I was a kid and I've read the updated ones to my daughter and I don't think there's a lot of difference other than the names.

#7 greenthumbs

Posted 03 February 2013 - 06:44 PM

I don't know, I would hope and assume they just changed the names. (a quick wiki search says alterations have been made to some books to change racist and sexist remarks). But perhaps you could get old copies off ebay or something and then you wouldn't have to worry.

#8 LookMumNoHands

Posted 03 February 2013 - 06:45 PM

QUOTE (namie @ 03/02/2013, 07:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've been on the lookout for original ones in second hand shops for years.

I refuse to buy any new versions as I loved the old ones so much and see nothing wrong with them. They were some of my favourite stories as a child.



Namie, you're in Vic aren't you?

My aunty works in an OP shop and grabs them quite often. I can ask her to keep a look out for any particular ones you're after, if you like?

#9 Percoriel

Posted 03 February 2013 - 06:48 PM

I loved the books as a kid and have been reading the new versions to my 5 year old. They are identical in all but the names original.gif

#10 ~kuddlebug~

Posted 03 February 2013 - 06:48 PM

http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetail...ton%2Benchanted

I'd look for something similar OP, I refuse to buy any new versions as the classics don't need editing as far as I'm concerned! I had no issue reading about d*ck and Fanny as a 6-7 year old (and have kept all the original versions I have, including the entire Famous Five series inhard cover!!)

#11 Guest_CaptainOblivious_*

Posted 03 February 2013 - 06:49 PM

We've got all of the old ones and have the new ones on audio CD. The stories are the same with a couple of very minor changes that the kids don't even care about.

I also found another book called More Wishing Chair Adventures at Big W which I'd never heard of before.

Dame Slap has been changed to Dame Snap and she snaps at children. I just told my kids the proper version had Dame Slap and she kept whacking kids all the time. They thought it was hilarious that adults were so silly to change it when it makes the story better if she's slapping them all the time.

We also bought the CDs at Australia Post with all 3 for $30, rather than the $50 per CD that they were at the ABC shop.

Edited by CaptainOblivious, 03 February 2013 - 06:59 PM.


#12 LookMumNoHands

Posted 03 February 2013 - 06:51 PM

QUOTE (Lara47 @ 03/02/2013, 07:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hi. They have just changed the names. d*ck is Rick, Fanny is Franny and can't remember Dame Slaps new name. Pretty pathetic they changed it really, but the rest of the words are the same. You can GED the CD versions which Kate Winslet reads, which are pretty good too.
Enjoy


Thanks, that's good to know  biggrin.gif

If it takes too long for my aunty to get one come in, I'll just buy a copy.


And yes, I'm so excited that my kids are loving them! I can't wait to get stuck in to The Adventurous Four, which were my favourites  biggrin.gif

#13 Guest_CaptainOblivious_*

Posted 03 February 2013 - 07:01 PM

QUOTE (namie @ 03/02/2013, 07:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've been on the lookout for original ones in second hand shops for years.

I refuse to buy any new versions as I loved the old ones so much and see nothing wrong with them. They were some of my favourite stories as a child.


I saw some for sale on FB a couple of weeks ago. Want me to contact the lady and see if she still has them?

Edited to say that I had a look and it seems like they're gone. Sorry.

Edited by CaptainOblivious, 03 February 2013 - 07:05 PM.


#14 Lilydel

Posted 03 February 2013 - 08:56 PM

QUOTE (LookMumNoHands @ 03/02/2013, 07:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hey all,

I've been reading an ancient copy of The Wishing Chair to my boys each night, and want to start on The Faraway Tree next, but am missing the first in the series.

I know they reprinted it, with new names for D!ck, Fanny and Dame Slap, but is the rest of the old fashioned way her books are written changed too?

I think part of the thing the kids enjoy about these books is the way they are written, and I'd hate to buy a new copy for them to be disappointed.

Thanks if anyone can help!


#15 FeralFemboside

Posted 03 February 2013 - 09:35 PM

QUOTE (namie @ 03/02/2013, 06:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I've been on the lookout for original ones in second hand shops for years.

I refuse to buy any new versions as I loved the old ones so much and see nothing wrong with them. They were some of my favourite stories as a child.


I agree about changing the names of d*ck, Fanny and even Dame Slap (because it's not like her behavior was held out to be positive) but I reread all the original Famous Fives a few years ago and they are shockingly racist. Things that I absolutely did not remember about them as a kid, but I choked on reading now. There are many many references to "dirty gypsies" and their lawless behavior, inability to look after their children, and some pretty horrible instances of neglect, abuse and serious assault that go unremarked upon because that's just what those people are like don't you know? So I'd be cautious about letting a kid read the originals today without reading them first yourself.

#16 namie

Posted 03 February 2013 - 10:14 PM

QUOTE (LookMumNoHands @ 03/02/2013, 07:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Namie, you're in Vic aren't you?

My aunty works in an OP shop and grabs them quite often. I can ask her to keep a look out for any particular ones you're after, if you like?

I am in Vic, that would be great! Thank you.  If she does come across any I'm happy to collect in person, or pay for postage on top of the books.

Edited to add: I've love illustrated versions of The Enchanted Wood and The Magic Faraway Tree, but I'll happily buy a novel version too original.gif

QUOTE (CaptainOblivious @ 03/02/2013, 08:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I saw some for sale on FB a couple of weeks ago. Want me to contact the lady and see if she still has them?

Edited to say that I had a look and it seems like they're gone. Sorry.

Thanks anyway. I remember, I think it was Cali, looking for copies a few years ago and in that thread most people had had trouble finding them.

Sydneyside, I just meant the Enchanted Wood stories in particular, but thanks for the heads up on the Famous Five stories. I don't remember anything about them, but I probably would have thought to find them for the boys in a few more years.
I have wondered how books I loved would translate to these days. I remember mum raving about her favourite book as a child 'What Katie did next' or something like that, and when she tracked down a copy for me I read it, but I don't remember being very impressed with it!

Edited to add that I just did a Google search and found a page of cover images which has jogged my memory - Cali was specifically after a copy with full illustrations, rather than a novel version.

Edited by namie, 03 February 2013 - 10:19 PM.


#17 FeralFemboside

Posted 03 February 2013 - 10:26 PM

QUOTE (namie @ 03/02/2013, 10:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Sydneyside, I just meant the Enchanted Wood stories in particular, but thanks for the heads up on the Famous Five stories. I don't remember anything about them, but I probably would have thought to find them for the boys in a few more years.
I have wondered how books I loved would translate to these days. I remember mum raving about her favourite book as a child 'What Katie did next' or something like that, and when she tracked down a copy for me I read it, but I don't remember being very impressed with it!


Yeah, I think that's just it. Nostalgia from childhood is quite inaccurate about content. I certainly read each of the Famous Fives several times as a kid and recalled none of the of things that shocked me rereading as an adult. Equally other children's books I've reread later have struck me as being unbearably twee and insipid. So I guess the thing to do is read what your kids read...

#18 DreamFeralisations

Posted 03 February 2013 - 10:50 PM

QUOTE (Sydneyside @ 03/02/2013, 09:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I agree about changing the names of d*ck, Fanny and even Dame Slap (because it's not like her behavior was held out to be positive) but I reread all the original Famous Fives a few years ago and they are shockingly racist. Things that I absolutely did not remember about them as a kid, but I choked on reading now. There are many many references to "dirty gypsies" and their lawless behavior, inability to look after their children, and some pretty horrible instances of neglect, abuse and serious assault that go unremarked upon because that's just what those people are like don't you know? So I'd be cautious about letting a kid read the originals today without reading them first yourself.


I have a Brer Rabbit from my childhood and decided to read it to my older daughter when she was little - the amount I had to edit!!!  Every thinking moment was accompanied with lighting a pipe, slang expressions were very much beyond the pale - you don't remember it!

I love the Faraway Tree.  I want one (a real Faraway Tree - bugger the books!!)

#19 CocobeanLillylove

Posted 03 February 2013 - 11:02 PM

Are any of these novels suitable to read out loud to a 4 year old or do you think that is a bit young? She loves listening to stories so I know she will pay attention but wondering if content would be over her head a bit?

#20 Magnus

Posted 03 February 2013 - 11:15 PM

I don't mind that they changed the names (although I don't think Dame Slap was too bad as she wasn't portrayed sympathetically). When I was a kid in the eighties and nineties it always seemed really rude that two of them had genital names.

My dad started reading them to me when I was about three and I really enjoyed them then.

#21 Beltie

Posted 03 February 2013 - 11:18 PM

QUOTE (CocobeanLillylove @ 04/02/2013, 12:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Are any of these novels suitable to read out loud to a 4 year old or do you think that is a bit young? She loves listening to stories so I know she will pay attention but wondering if content would be over her head a bit?


I started reading the Faraway books to my girls when they were 3 1/2 and 4 1/2.

When I read them I changed the names back to the originals. We got the CDs for the car and the girls thought Kate Winslet was a bit odd because she couldn't get the names right but they got over it quickly.

The CDs are still a winner in the car and we have a faraway tree in the garden. It has a dollhouse door nailed to the base, a dollhouse dormer window quite high up and the girls drape ropes over the branches to help the fairies climb up and down.

I remember truly believing as a child and really enjoy my girls delight in Enid Blyton's world.

#22 Guest_CaptainOblivious_*

Posted 04 February 2013 - 07:45 AM

QUOTE (namie @ 03/02/2013, 11:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am in Vic, that would be great! Thank you.  If she does come across any I'm happy to collect in person, or pay for postage on top of the books.

Edited to add: I've love illustrated versions of The Enchanted Wood and The Magic Faraway Tree, but I'll happily buy a novel version too original.gif


Thanks anyway. I remember, I think it was Cali, looking for copies a few years ago and in that thread most people had had trouble finding them.

Sydneyside, I just meant the Enchanted Wood stories in particular, but thanks for the heads up on the Famous Five stories. I don't remember anything about them, but I probably would have thought to find them for the boys in a few more years.
I have wondered how books I loved would translate to these days. I remember mum raving about her favourite book as a child 'What Katie did next' or something like that, and when she tracked down a copy for me I read it, but I don't remember being very impressed with it!

Edited to add that I just did a Google search and found a page of cover images which has jogged my memory - Cali was specifically after a copy with full illustrations, rather than a novel version.


*cough  cough* Er... that was me, not Cali blush.gif The lady did have the Enchanted Wood set in full colour and the old language for $4 a book. I almost bought them even though I have a copy of each. They're pretty rare but often just pop up when you stop looking for them.


QUOTE (CocobeanLillylove @ 04/02/2013, 12:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Are any of these novels suitable to read out loud to a 4 year old or do you think that is a bit young? She loves listening to stories so I know she will pay attention but wondering if content would be over her head a bit?

I started reading them to my eldest DD when she was around 3. She loved them and we read the whole lot over and over again for ages. DD2 has just grown up listening to them.  Definitely not too young.

#23 Lady Lovely Locks

Posted 04 February 2013 - 07:58 AM

Oh I LOVED those books when I was young.... adding to the list of musts for DD lol

#24 TurtleTamer

Posted 04 February 2013 - 07:59 AM

In our copy D.ick (I can't believe that that is censored) was changed to Joe, don't get why it was changed so dramatically.

Edited by TurtleTamer, 04 February 2013 - 08:00 AM.


#25 Guest_CaptainOblivious_*

Posted 04 February 2013 - 10:40 AM

QUOTE (TurtleTamer @ 04/02/2013, 08:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In our copy D.ick (I can't believe that that is censored) was changed to Joe, don't get why it was changed so dramatically.

Nah, dick is Joe's cousin in the second faraway tree book.

Joe is the brother of Beth and Franny in the new ones or Bessie and Fanny in the old ones.

Dick is changed to Rick.

Edited by CaptainOblivious, 04 February 2013 - 10:41 AM.





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