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#1 Forum Moderator

Posted 01 February 2013 - 08:12 PM

New thread time ladies. Here's the link to your old thread.
Cheers, ~Mintie~

#2 Primadonna girl

Posted 02 February 2013 - 03:05 PM

Hi ladies,

I am going crazy and just need some advice! It's been 8 days since transfer of day 3 embryo. Yesterday and today I have cramping and lower back pain like when I have my period. There is no blood, but i'm so worried AF will come although it's too early for that, isn't it? I'm not sure if AF would come 14 days after EPU or ET.

I've looked online and many women says they felt this way the week before a BFP and I'm just hoping i'm one of them! Every time I feel discharge (sorry TMI!) i'm scared it's AF. Any ladies here that can share their experience?

Hope you're all doing well, I'm just anxious, crazy and over the waiting game!

#3 kylielouise

Posted 02 February 2013 - 03:33 PM

Primadonna I'm having cramping and have really sore and tender breasts, to the point where I could cry. I also had a discharge today. I'm day 5 after a 5 day transfer. Can't decide what it is but fearing the worst ( AF ).

My DH is trying to reassure me but its playing on my mind. I wish I just knew definitively one way or the other. Google has peoples experiences as both ways .... I don't know what to think and fear the worst....this is crappy!

Good luck though, fingers crossed for you


#4 it'stime

Posted 02 February 2013 - 03:44 PM

Well girls they are all positive signs!

However, TRY not to analyse your symptoms too much. There have been many times I have convinced myself that it was finally happening only to be disappointed.

I truly hope within a few days you both get that bfp.

#5 146 Lucina

Posted 02 February 2013 - 07:56 PM

Oh girls, the dreaded head screws of the tww!   bbighug.gif I hope it goes quickly for you.

I would try to ignore all the symptoms ATM. All the luteal phase support drugs you would be on is probably playing havoc with you. I remember not knowing what was real and what was the progesterone and pregnyl.

I'm keeping everything crossed for you for both, that there will be good news soon.

Hi Everyone,


#6 Gordo's Girl

Posted 04 February 2013 - 08:38 AM

The TWW sucks doesn't it?  As everyone else says, try not to read too much into it, as your mind starts playing tricks with you then.  If you are on crinone or pregnyl or any other support they can all mimic pregnancy and AF symptoms .... it's all so confusing.

I have everything crossed for you though.  What dates are your tests Primadonna and Kylie?

x GG

#7 Primadonna girl

Posted 04 February 2013 - 09:35 AM

Hi girls!

Thanks for the advice, the minutes seem like hours during the 2ww! I have had 3 days of bearable cramping and lower back pain and yesterday I felt nauseous. It was crap but nothing compared to last night. I was woken by bad lower back pain and it took me ages to finally get back to sleep. Then I woke up again to severe cramping like i've never felt before. was sure AF had started and went to the bathroom but no blood. I was in so much pain and am so scared this is all going really bad.

I have BT on Thursday and have been thinking about POAS on Wednesday but not sure if I should. This is all so crap, I only hope it's worth it in the end!

Kylielouise I really hope you're not suffering this much!

#8 Gordo's Girl

Posted 04 February 2013 - 11:56 AM

Causeway - for some reason I can't message you.  But to answer questions about the Royal Jelly, I'm taking one from a health shop, it's organic lyophilised capsules - they are 184mg (equivalent to 550mg fresh royal jelly) - and I'm just taking two each morning.

x GG

#9 146 Lucina

Posted 04 February 2013 - 07:45 PM

causeway, GG, - (Just for info) my royal jelly is from natures goodness. 1000mg x 1 capsule per day. It just keeps the number of tablets down a bit.

P.S. Ladies, What CoQ10 are you using. I just changed to ethical nutrients, hoping its better.

Edited by 146 Lucina, 04 February 2013 - 07:52 PM.

#10 kylielouise

Posted 04 February 2013 - 09:00 PM

Hi primadonna! I have a lower tummy pain on both sides that is uncomfortable, for instance when I tie my shoes I need to hold my tummy etc. Sitting in certain positions also creates cramps in lower tummy.
I have BT Friday. I POAS this morning, negative. I know it is probably to early but couldn't distract myself, felt the need to. I at least feel now other news will be exciting and if its negative at least I won't have quite the shock...probably makes no sense...
I felt really connected for 4 days but a bit more distant now. Not sure if this is significant.
Can anyone tell me, will I have spotting or any other telltale sign if the bub hasn't stuck?

#11 Primadonna girl

Posted 05 February 2013 - 11:41 AM

Hi Kylielouise,

I understand how you feel about POAS before BT to get yourself ready for the worst. It's easy to get caught up in the excitement and after such a long journey and 2ww, getting a negative result over the phone would be devastating. There have been times where I thought I must be pregnant and was positive and then I had really bad pains and started to think that I wasn't as something had to be wrong.

Having said that I POAS this morning at 10dpt3dt as I couldn't take the waiting anymore and I have a definite faint second line! I don't want to get too excited yet as it could still be a chemical pregnancy and that would be devastating to find out too. But, at least I feel better about suffering through the pain!

Women seem to react totally differently and some women spot for a whole week before a BFP, so there really doesn't seem to be a pattern from what i've read. Maybe some of the other girls on here that have more experience can give you more information though.

Thinking of you!

#12 kylielouise

Posted 05 February 2013 - 06:45 PM

Hi primadonna,

That sounds really promising for you! How exciting, I have my fingers crossed for you. I POAS 7dp5dt. Our total days are only 1 day off so I dont hold much hope. I'm still massively bloated, hard tummy and a pressure pain on my bladder when I sit. I need to lean back to relieve the pain. Breasts still sore but not quite so bad.
TBH I'm not sure what to think anymore. Friday can't come quick enough. My backup plan ATM is that we have enough money to have another try in march if need be. I'm still not defeated just so unsure. Everyday I say goodmorning to bub just incase and tell them how much they are wanted...good thoughts, good thoughts. Still no spotting or anything so there is hope.


Edited by kylielouise, 05 February 2013 - 06:48 PM.

#13 146 Lucina

Posted 06 February 2013 - 03:14 PM

Kylielouise, - it's still early days, don't lose hope. Some people don't get a second line until later.

Primadonna, - I'm getting quietly excited for you. Good luck.


#14 kylielouise

Posted 06 February 2013 - 04:03 PM

Ok so I hyper stimulated today and ended up in hospital. Felt terrible wasn't sure what was wrong. Was actually relieved to find out. Feel better now and am at home.

The good news though is *whispers* its positive. Early days and I don't want to Jinx myself but hopefully I'll stay intact with my sticky! Very happy but very cautious also. BT still scheduled for Friday to recheck levels have risen further....please God, please.

Hope everyone else going well. Good luck primadonna for tomoz and thanks Luci for the words of encouragement


#15 Primadonna girl

Posted 06 February 2013 - 04:39 PM

Hope you're ok Kylielouise, must have been scary! On the plus side, you got to test early and now have some hope! I have been a nervous wreck today worried about tomorrow's outcome. I am hoping and praying that there is a little miracle fighting to stay with me.

Any news from the other ladies starting stims? How are you all going? My thoughts are with you on this tough journey!

#16 146 Lucina

Posted 07 February 2013 - 10:34 AM

Primadonna, - Good luck today. Am thinking of you.  original.gif

Sorry just read your post Kylieloise, - Ooooh, am quietly very excited for you. Hyperstimming now is a good sign of pregnancy. Hoping for a great beta result for you tomorrow. Can't wait to hear.  wink.gif

Edited by 146 Lucina, 07 February 2013 - 10:39 AM.

#17 Primadonna girl

Posted 07 February 2013 - 02:41 PM

Hi girls,

Thanks for all the good luck wishes, I needed them! Such a nerve wrecking day waiting by the phone to see what was going on. Well, I am very pregnant! HCG is 488 and progesterone 397! No need for pessaries as the doctor is really happy with my progesterone, so that is great too!

Still want to be cautious until the first 3 months are over, but I cried and cried from happiness and relief after all the stress.

I will summarise my journey to give hope to the other girls who are disheartened at the moment:

- Me: 33 and DH: 35
- AMH of 1.1
- DH has excellent Sperm numbers, morphology and motility
- IVF #1: antagonistic cycle with nordette pill, lucrin and 300 Gonal F
- 7 follicles in u/s with oestrogen to support them.
- Only 3 eggs in EPU
- All 3 eggs fertilised and 1x7 cell for 3dt
- Other 2 eggs didn't grow, so none to freeze
- BFP!

#18 Gordo's Girl

Posted 07 February 2013 - 03:15 PM

Yay Yay Yay!  Such exciting news in here today.  Well done Kylie and Primadonna!  Fingers crossed you both have an uneventful next 8 months.  

Good start to the year in this group .... let's hope it continues!

x GG

#19 kylielouise

Posted 07 February 2013 - 04:25 PM

Excellent job primadonna. Very exciting!! What a great day for you and your family.

Your levels are great as well!

#20 Donnyz

Posted 07 February 2013 - 06:14 PM

Hi everyone.
Hope you are all doing well.
Primadonna girl - congratulations. That news is very exciting for you and definitely provides hope for us. Hope the next 8 months is smooth sailing for you!
Kylielouise - good luck on your test tomorrow. Hope it is a BFP for you!!!
AFM - my collection went ahead on Tuesday, with 6 eggs retrieved. I was very very excited about this number and have to admit that I got a bit ahead of myself. Found out yesterday that only 2 fertilised as 4 of the eggs were immature. Today I find out that both fertilised eggs stopped developing overnight rant.gif  cry1.gif  cry1.gif
I spoke to my FS who recommended we move away from antagonist and try a long down reg cycle. I thought that this type of cycle produces less eggs and is not suited to low amh ladies. Has anyone has improved response with quality or quantity on a long down reg?
Sorry for the rant, but I have only just got on this IVF roller coaster and today has been just horrible....

#21 Primadonna girl

Posted 07 February 2013 - 08:09 PM


Thanks for the congrats! I still can't believe it!

Just picked up on an error I wrote after reading Donnyz' s message. I did a Long Down Regulation Cycle, not an Antagonist, so there is hope Donnyz! I only got 3 eggs, but they all fertilised and 1 good one stuck!

Good luck for tomorrow Kylielouise! Fingers, toes, arms, legs and eyes crossed!

#22 Gordo's Girl

Posted 07 February 2013 - 11:17 PM

Donnyz, sorry to hear about your eggs not playing the game.  It's so disappointing to be on a high with a good egg haul, and then to not have anything to transfer just sucks.  I hope you are looking after yourself and there's some nice chocolate and bottle of red in your house.

**** pregnancy mentioned ****

I did a long down reg for my very first cycle (before I knew my AMH was <1), it got cancelled due to my poor response - at the time I had 3 follies, had I known then what I know now, that would have been a great haul for me and being 35 at the time I should have not let the FS tell me it was all over and "I could do better than that".  

Since then I've done antagonist cycles, and the last one was a flare cycle.  My only success has been with the antagonist, however remember we are all different.

All I can say is that with our low AMH levels, we have to remember that it's all about quality, not quantity.  My DD was the result of a cycle with one lonely follie, producing one little egg.  I'm sure that good egg was down to the CoQ10, royal jelly, and just generally being fit and healthy.  Shame I'm not fit and healthy now ... but that's another story!!

Wishing you lots of luck with the next round.

x GG

#23 kylielouise

Posted 08 February 2013 - 12:30 PM

Sorry to hear your news donnyz. I don't know enough to help you at all. Look after yourself though. Sending u hugs. Xx

Not to be insensitive though my levels have trippled in 2 days so all looking great. Booked ultrasound for 3 weeks time to ensure its not chemical. Fingers still crossed!

#24 Gordo's Girl

Posted 08 February 2013 - 12:55 PM

Great news Kylie ... congratulations!

#25 Primadonna girl

Posted 08 February 2013 - 01:38 PM

Congrats Kylielouise! Looks promising, hope all goes well for you!

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