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#1 tkbw

Posted 01 February 2013 - 04:21 PM

Hiya,

Both my kids DD (grade 4) and DS (grade 1) have come home saying they completed tests with their class over the last couple of days. DD commented that the test was similar to the NAPLAN, in that she had to shade "little bubbles" to indicate her answers.

Anyone know what these tests are? Just curious.

Edited by ~*Kathy*~, 01 February 2013 - 04:52 PM.


#2 SisterMaryElephant

Posted 01 February 2013 - 04:28 PM

Most likely Naplan practice tests.  State schools seem particularly fond of them.  My DD attends a Catholic school and hasn't sighted one yet, but the govt school where I teach is doing some practices.

Edited by CleverChook, 01 February 2013 - 04:28 PM.


#3 Bone Apple Tea

Posted 01 February 2013 - 04:31 PM

My kids tend to waste most of term 1 preparing for Naplan in May in years 3, 5, 7.   Also expect lots of persuasive essay writing practice.

#4 Bryden

Posted 01 February 2013 - 04:46 PM

My DS (year 5) has also started doing practice NAPLANs! TBH - I'm a little annoyed, he's already being pushed to be prepared for this test. He spent part of his birthday money (I'm going to reimburse him though!) on the study book. He's only 10 years old FGS - and from what I understand the test isn't ging to change/affect his education at all?!

#5 tkbw

Posted 01 February 2013 - 04:48 PM

It seems strange that they would commence with NAPLAN preparation in first term of Grade 1 and 4, considering these grades don't partake in NAPLAN.

It sounds like it was quite a formal test. DD said the test yesterday was referred to as a "comprehension" test.



#6 tkbw

Posted 01 February 2013 - 04:51 PM

Bryden, I can't believe they've already started practicing for the NAPLAN at your school!

Last year in grade 3 they took my DD and a few other top performers from the class each week and had them focus on NAPLAN testing for roughly 6 weeks out from testing. I was furious!

#7 SisterMaryElephant

Posted 01 February 2013 - 05:03 PM

QUOTE (~*Kathy*~ @ 01/02/2013, 04:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Bryden, I can't believe they've already started practicing for the NAPLAN at your school!

Last year in grade 3 they took my DD and a few other top performers from the class each week and had them focus on NAPLAN testing for roughly 6 weeks out from testing. I was furious!


It doesn't make much sense that they would take the top performers, who you'd expect to easily meet minimum standards.  Are you sure it wasn't some other kind of testing?

#8 capper

Posted 01 February 2013 - 05:12 PM

Our school, not in qld, is doing pat testing.  It is personal achievement testing.  It tells the teacher where each child is, where they are ahead, or where they need help.  So, it is diagnostic.  They do them again at the end of the year to see improvement on each child.  They do them every year.


#9 baking101

Posted 01 February 2013 - 05:25 PM

It could be any type of test, probably diagnostic, to sort out grouping and gaps in learning. It may well be PAT (Progressive Achievement Test) as PP mentioned. These look very similar to the NAPLAN papers or academic competitions.

My school used to be quite big on this (big Maths, Reading comprehension, oral Reading and Spelling tests in the first week of school) but we've stopped doing this because it only boosted anxiety and boredom levels. We do much sneakier (and authentic) assessment now  wink.gif

#10 ~benita~

Posted 01 February 2013 - 05:30 PM

My daughter at a NSW private also sat these sorts of tests this week.  She is a Year 3 (so Naplan year) but said they had them last year as well.  The teacher told me the are some "Nationally Standard testing used to guage ability".

She had a Maths, Spelling and Comprehension.

#11 tkbw

Posted 01 February 2013 - 05:31 PM

QUOTE (CleverChook @ 01/02/2013, 05:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It doesn't make much sense that they would take the top performers, who you'd expect to easily meet minimum standards.  Are you sure it wasn't some other kind of testing?


I'm 100%. I'm not agreeing with their logic. Strange I agree.
On this occasion I asked the school, as it was only a small group of them.

It could very well be the PAT. Thank you.

#12 axiomae

Posted 01 February 2013 - 06:25 PM

Most likely the PAT tests. We do them for Year 8 and 9 students (FYOHS in QLD) in the first week. Gives us a chance to find out where the students sit in different areas - what they know, what they don't know etc.

#13 Julie3Girls

Posted 01 February 2013 - 06:43 PM

NSW here, my older two girls in yr 4 and 6 both have been having tests this week ... Spelling, comprehension, and maths.
I assumed it was basic benchmarking ... I know the yr 5 and 6 kids get placed in grade maths classes based on the test results.

They weren't napalm style (colour the circle etc) but I wouldn't be too worried about tests at this time of the year. It's good for the teacher to know where the kids are up to at the beginning of the year.
I certainly wouldn't be stressed about it.

Edited by Julie3Girls, 01 February 2013 - 06:54 PM.


#14 EsmeLennox

Posted 01 February 2013 - 06:45 PM

It would be diagnostic testing to give the teacher some objective data about strengths and weaknesses. Very useful planning tools!

#15 Ritaroo

Posted 01 February 2013 - 06:48 PM

QUOTE (Jemstar @ 01/02/2013, 06:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It would be diagnostic testing to give the teacher some objective data about strengths and weaknesses. Very useful planning tools!


Agreed. I would imagine it would be testing for the teacher to know where the their children are at.

#16 mumto3princesses

Posted 01 February 2013 - 06:50 PM

My twins have been doing tests this week too. They even did one on the first day. Public NSW school. Each class is doing basic benchmark testing so they know where each child is at.

#17 AbbottProofFence

Posted 01 February 2013 - 06:51 PM

Could it be diagnostic testing? It's not uncommon for teachers to do a little diagnostic testing on the first couple of days just to see where the students are at.

I don't like the idea of NAPLAN practice testing other than maybe giving the kids an idea what to expect. I thought the idea of NAPLAN was to find where schools/students are at and what can be improved.

#18 mum850

Posted 01 February 2013 - 09:04 PM

I agree with PPs. standard diagnostic testing so they can sort kids into ability groups, nothing to do with Naplan.
My DD in grade 4 said her class did spelling and maths. Interestingly though she said it was NOT a PAT test. She did PAT testing last year. She seemed quite sure.
She is in grade 4, and she said the teacher said the test was end grade 4 and also some year 5 and 6. Does that help at all, teachers?

#19 Aspiring2BaGiraffe

Posted 01 February 2013 - 09:56 PM

I agree with other posters. They could def be diagnostic benchmarking tests.  They are repeated once or twice more later in th year to see how the child is progressing.

#20 tkbw

Posted 01 February 2013 - 10:01 PM

I'm now pretty certain it was PAT. Thank you.  

Was just curious :-)




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