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#1 Sassy Dingo

Posted 01 February 2013 - 09:13 AM


I know a lot of people say that while they like Jack (for eg) they would never name their child that as it is too popular - I've certainly done it. I'm 39 weeks today and when discussing names with DH I vetoed some due to popularity. I didn't actually realise though, that while Jack might be the most popular boys name in Qld, 289 babies for a whole state really isn't that much.

Kind of wish now I hadn't seen this as it has me reevaluating the names we have picked out!

Has seeing the actual number of popular names made anyone else reconsider naming their child a popular name?


Top 10 most popular baby names in Queensland in 2012:

Boys:

    Jack (289 babies)
    Cooper (281 babies)
    William (258 babies)
    Noah (240 babies)
    Oliver (227 babies)
    Ethan (212 babies)
    Lachlan (207 babies)
    Thomas (200 babies)
    Liam (187 babies)
    James (171 babies)

Girls:

    Ruby (254 babies)
    Charlotte (249 babies)
    Sophie (241 babies)
    Chloe (224 babies)
    Isabella (205 babies)
    Amelia (200 babies)
    Mia (197 babies)
    Emily (193 babies)
    Ava (191 babies)
    Olivia (189 babies)

Source:

http://www.essentialbaby.com.au/pregnancy/...0107-2cby3.html

#2 The 7 Dwarfs

Posted 01 February 2013 - 09:24 AM

I wouldn't not name a child a name I liked due to popularity, however if there were 2 names I was deciding between, I'd go for the less popular name.

#3 la di dah

Posted 01 February 2013 - 10:52 AM

It doesn't make any difference at all for boys as none of those names are possibilities for us. Well I guess it makes some in that if they weren't all popular some of the ones I like wouldn't be taken by close family/friends.

For girls, I only really like Emily. Ruby is interesting because I want to use an R name, but it wouldn't sound great with our surname even if it were exquisitely uncommon.

I guess it does make some difference to me as I'm happy to see some of my mainstream faves aren't top ten. But I also tend to mentally average Aussie top tens against US top tens to come up with some sort of stupid scoring system of my own invention.  

The other thing for me is who I know. A top ten name isn't a dealbreaker but, unmysteriously, many of the top ten ones are taken up by family/close friends as that's just the odds.

#4 skylark

Posted 01 February 2013 - 10:57 AM

Most of those have been very popular for years, so you will find there are more of them than you expect around, just not all born the same year.

#5 Gudrun

Posted 01 February 2013 - 10:58 AM

I'm way beyond the naming phase but I have noticed the same thing. If I perceived a name as popular it would be struck off.   However it does seem true that people are accessing a much greater pool of names than in the days of yore and that the likelihood of 4-6 whatevers in the same class is not what it was.

#6 TwoBubbas

Posted 01 February 2013 - 11:01 AM

When naming my almost 2.5yr old DD we didn't name her Sophie, which we really liked, because at that time it was very popular.  Instead, we named her Ruby! At that time, Ruby was just becoming popular which we didn't really realise.  I'm not bothered that she has a popular name, even though she is one of three Ruby's in her class at Kindy.

#7 dadwasathome

Posted 01 February 2013 - 11:02 AM

Outside the top 20 for the previous 5 years was a criterion for both our boys' names -  a year earlier or a year later and DS9's name would have been rejected on this ground.

#8 becstar101

Posted 01 February 2013 - 11:05 AM

I read a little while ago that especially for boys' names there is a greater spread of numbers. Because of the greater variety of names that people come up with, the top names are no longer so dominant.

For example, the year I was born Matthew was the most popular name in Victoria, with 1025 babies given that name. The year my son was born, his name William was the most popular, but only 623 babies were given that name. I know the number of babies born is unlikely to be the same, but I don't think it's too far off.

Despite 623 Williams his age wandering the state, we actually meet very few, I think due to it not being a popular name in our area. I know a lot more Finns Maxes and Henrys than I do Williams!

#9 Kreme

Posted 01 February 2013 - 11:54 AM

Generally I agree with you, when you consider a few hundred kids across a whole state then it's not that many.
However you can find clusters of names within an area, so a name feels more popular than it actually is.
And I do think that Jack is really in a class of its own in popularity. I must know 15-20 Jacks between 3 and 10 years old.

#10 la di dah

Posted 01 February 2013 - 01:24 PM

Wouldn't you have to add all the Jacks, Jacksons, Johns, and half the Jacobs in the state together to get the working number of kids answering to "Jack" on the playground? That'd throw the stats out a bit, I'd think.

#11 Z-girls rock

Posted 01 February 2013 - 02:38 PM

QUOTE (la di dah @ 01/02/2013, 02:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wouldn't you have to add all the Jacks, Jacksons, Johns, and half the Jacobs in the state together to get the working number of kids answering to "Jack" on the playground? That'd throw the stats out a bit, I'd think.



yep. I think they dont count the name if it is spelt slightly differently.

On that note I am surrounded by people called Chris. the name Chris has probably never topped the top 100 baby name list but when you add up all the people called:
Christopher
Kristoffer
Christine
Christina
Christian
Kristian
Kristy
Christoff

then.. it all adds up. Adds up to me be totally over it (any name beginging with Chris/Kris) LOL

#12 Guest_Sunnycat_*

Posted 01 February 2013 - 02:50 PM

Our son has a top ten name. Seems to be top ten in most states.

To us, it was the most unusual name DH was going to allow. I have never met another person with this name and hadn't met any before DS was born so to us it wasn't popular at all.

#13 WithSprinkles

Posted 01 February 2013 - 02:52 PM

Yep, and that is similar to names like Aidan which people use multiple spellings (Aiden, Aidan, Ayden, Aydan)...

It would be good if we could get stats for particular towns/suburbs, that would be interesting!

#14 Z-girls rock

Posted 01 February 2013 - 03:03 PM

yeah.

In fact I am surprised that Muhammad is not on any top 10 lists. It is the most popular name in the world.

But I read that when they compiled the world list they decided to add up all the various spellings; which could be Muhammad; Mohamed, Mohammed, Mohamad, Muhammad, Muhammed, Muhamed,Muhammed, Muhamed, Muhammet, or Muhamet  (there is probably more...)

but I think here in Australia they dont do that. They treat every spelling variance as a different name. Which is a bit silly really

It is like saying Isobel is super popular, but Isabel? meh, not so much.
it is really not going to matter to all the little Isabels out there at school when they are known as Isabel B, or Isobel D etc

#15 la di dah

Posted 01 February 2013 - 03:29 PM

Haha Z-girls, that reminds me, I found a list of the top ten names in America of each initial (so top ten A names, top ten B names, etc.) and was dorkily amusing myself guessing what name would top out each letter.

Got to Y and said to myself "it must be Yosef."

Nope. It was second place, and Yusuf and Yousef were each counted seperately and each made the top ten in their own right. (Y being the under-loved letter it is)

#16 SisterMaryElephant

Posted 01 February 2013 - 04:56 PM

Yes, it's definitely not as much of an issue as when I was growing up.  There's a lot more names in common usage.  But I still think you have to account for different spellings,  as pps have said and also trends in sounds and so forth that make a name sound very '2013'.

So I still probably wouldn't go top ten, but it makes top 20 or 30 seem not so bad.  My Elizabeth is around top 30 in Qld (lower in other states), and we rarely come across another one.


Oh, and edited to add a popular but great name is so much better than a bad name.  A good yet not overly popular name beats them both.

Edited by CleverChook, 01 February 2013 - 05:01 PM.


#17 ShamelesslyPooks

Posted 01 February 2013 - 05:38 PM

QUOTE (la di dah @ 01/02/2013, 02:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Wouldn't you have to add all the Jacks, Jacksons, Johns, and half the Jacobs in the state together to get the working number of kids answering to "Jack" on the playground? That'd throw the stats out a bit, I'd think.

I agree with PPs, for me it was also
-what has been common for a long time
-what is common in my area
-what is common in my circle
-what other similar names are also common.

Isabella might only be 205, but what about Isabel, Isobel, Isobelle, Isabelle, Isobella, Arabella, Annabel, Bella, Ella, Ellie, Ellena, Eleanor... If you look through the top 100 you find many... Think of all the Elle and Bell names... it's like the Jayden, Hayden, Braydon thing.

That's what I would be considering moreso. Really rhyming names, or names where the nicknames will all be the same or similar.

Names like Noah, Ethan, Cooper and William stand alone more from other popular names. Even Ruby and Charlotte.

But you have a point, OP.

I also think that overall, the most popular names are simply really lovely names!



#18 FeralFP

Posted 12 March 2013 - 03:10 PM

QUOTE (Z-girls rock @ 01/02/2013, 01:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think they dont count the name if it is spelt slightly differently.

Which is so silly and I almost fell into the trap recently!

DH and I are having so much trouble with names and then realised that Madison met all our criteria - yay finally! BUT when you add up the number of Madisons with number of Maddisons, it pretty much turns it into a top 10 name sad.gif

Same with Lily and Lilly. I really wish they would add the various spellings together into one total, particularly when there are 3 -5 popular spellings (eg isobel).

Good point OP about the number of babies actually born though. Being the number 1 name now really isnt the same as being the number 1 name when I was born (which my name was and it drove me mad!).

Edited by JBaby, 12 March 2013 - 08:40 PM.


#19 Bam1

Posted 12 March 2013 - 04:23 PM

Jack has also been in the top 3 for the last 15 years  and in the top 10 for probably longer so that probably contributes to everyone a knowing at least one child called Jack.

Does anybody know when Jack first started to become popular, not just as a NN for John? 1995 it was #7 (with a bullet) in Australia

#20 Gudrun

Posted 12 March 2013 - 05:25 PM

The first new and only Jack's appeared around 40 years ago in my experience.

#21 Fox's Sox

Posted 12 March 2013 - 05:45 PM

I'm definately turned off names if they are too popular.  While I love Cooper & Oliver, they are just too common now.  

I grew up with a popular 80s era name and therefore had several other classmates with the same name.  Alway found it very frustrating that my name was not my own and I always had to be identified with my surname initial added to my first name.

#22 whimbrel

Posted 12 March 2013 - 07:33 PM

My sisters name, Hannah, was really popular when she was born. My parents had never met anyone with her name, but in her kindergarten there were 6 of them. I don't think she has ever been in a class at school without at least one other Hannah, and usually two or three, and we have moved cities a few times. So she learnt to write her name as Hannah.R and even when writing to family or close friends that's still what she puts original.gif



#23 vanessa71

Posted 13 March 2013 - 08:16 AM

Back when my dad was born, in the 40s, the most popular boys name was John. There were over 3000 born in NSW alone each year of that decade. There were 1586 in Victoria in the actual year my dad was born, so as you can see it was a popular name.

Now, even the most popular names are never as 'popular' as names have been in the past. Popularity does put me off, but if there wasn't a name I could find that I loved as much, I would still use the name despite the popularity as it's not a guarantee the child will be in class with three other kids of the same name.

We don't know any Jacks locally, but DD has two Dantes in her class this year. wink.gif


#24 liveworkplay

Posted 13 March 2013 - 08:43 AM

QUOTE
Generally I agree with you, when you consider a few hundred kids across a whole state then it's not that many.

QUOTE (skylark @ 01/02/2013, 11:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Most of those have been very popular for years, so you will find there are more of them than you expect around, just not all born the same year.



I agree. Jack has been number one or two for AT LEAST 9 years nationally. So if, just in QLD you have 200 Jacks a year for the past 5, that's 1000 pre school Jacks running around.

I think once you get out of the top 20 or so, the chances of having friends/class mates with the same name is pretty slim. DD1's name was not even in the top 100 in Victoria the year she was born. A couple of years later it slowly crept on and has been slowly rising in popularity for the last 5 or so years. I have so far met 3 other younger girls with her name. My name was not anywhere near popular the year I was born. It then became one of the most popular girls names in the 70's.

SO while popularity, for me, is a factor, it is also very unpredictable.



#25 Bel Rowley

Posted 13 March 2013 - 08:50 AM

It's funny how even though there aren't "that many" of any one name, double ups still seem to appear in every class or group, in the city at least. They are just not always easy to predict. This year DD has two Charlies in her class, last year it was two Lukes, and there are two Abigails and an Abbey.




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