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#1 MrsLexiK

Posted 31 January 2013 - 03:23 PM

Just reading this, their are a lot of people on EB who are anti BB and the like.  Do you see the school bonus as the same thing? Surely it has to be seen this way if one bonus or handout is.

http://www.theage.com.au/opinion/political...0131-2dmgx.html

#2 JustBeige

Posted 31 January 2013 - 03:39 PM

I actually like the BB.  the way it is now.   Having it in small portions is much better than a lump sum and I do think the 'average' family can do with help.   I do think its way too much though.

The school bonus is just that. If I remember correctly it was touted as a way of helping out people in this hard economic time.  So unless TA's lot is going to make everything cheaper and more affordable for the 'average' family, then I think making statements like this has just lost him the vote.

People dont like getting money taken off them.



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with the Opposition Leader including the decision in a set speech against the advice of a senior staffer

says it all really.

Edited by JustBeige, 31 January 2013 - 03:41 PM.


#3 Acidulous Osprey

Posted 31 January 2013 - 03:42 PM

I'm more appalled by the double dissolution idea if he is blocked from blocking the carbon tax.

#4 Feral-Lausii

Posted 31 January 2013 - 03:45 PM

So if it had stayed the ETR would he have scrapped that too? Or just because its now a bonus he is going to scrap it? Well I hope he doesn't get in. This is a huge help with back to school costs.

#5 (feral)epg

Posted 31 January 2013 - 03:48 PM

But at the same time he seems to be pushing on with his very generous maternity leave scheme.

*I mean very generous to those already on high incomes.

#6 erindiv

Posted 31 January 2013 - 03:54 PM

Why can't such bonuses go directly to the schools, and the schools provide more materials, etc?

#7 bakesgirls

Posted 31 January 2013 - 03:54 PM

It really doesn't bother me. This year was the first year I have recieved anything, and that was only because being on unpaid maternity leave lowered our household income. I found it a rather plesant surprise when it arrived in my account, but I wasn't relying on it to purchase school uniforms or books.

Either way, I still wont be voting for him or his party.

#8 MrsLexiK

Posted 31 January 2013 - 03:57 PM

QUOTE (JustBeige @ 31/01/2013, 04:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I actually like the BB.  the way it is now.   Having it in small portions is much better than a lump sum and I do think the 'average' family can do with help.   I do think its way too much though.

The school bonus is just that. If I remember correctly it was touted as a way of helping out people in this hard economic time.  So unless TA's lot is going to make everything cheaper and more affordable for the 'average' family, then I think making statements like this has just lost him the vote.

People dont like getting money taken off them.

Totally agree which is why I think he was perhapes advised against scrapping it.  It is also why I think the BB will stay inplace with the amount that it is. But the SB is a bonus when your kids start school the BB a bonus when you have a baby.  

QUOTE (Lausii @ 31/01/2013, 04:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So if it had stayed the ETR would he have scrapped that too? Or just because its now a bonus he is going to scrap it? Well I hope he doesn't get in. This is a huge help with back to school costs.

As is the BB to people who are not eligable for PPL.

QUOTE (epg @ 31/01/2013, 04:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But at the same time he seems to be pushing on with his very generous maternity leave scheme.

*I mean very generous to those already on high incomes.

The thing that I like the most about TA's maternity leave is the difference in time you can have off or how long the money is designed to last you for.  6 weeks to me is a huge difference, I am in the lucky position of being able to have the PPL last me for up to 18 months before we have to start looking at cutting back or me getting a part time job but I understand I am in the minority there.

#9 JustBeige

Posted 31 January 2013 - 04:01 PM

QUOTE (Poet in New York @ 31/01/2013, 04:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Bonuses are not necessarily intended to be ongoing.

Yes you are right.  however this and the BB have been 'sold' to the public as an ongoing payment by the current government.

TA's government is going to 'take it away'.  

Wont be a vote winning policy - not for mainstream Australia.


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Why can't such bonuses go directly to the schools, and the schools provide more materials, etc?
because its not just for the schools use.  It also can help pay for uniforms (which not every school supplies); shoes; underwear/socks; other misc. items that arent purchased or sold at the school.

*not saying that state schools dont deserve a larger portion of investment, but that is another argument/thread*

#10 MrsLexiK

Posted 31 January 2013 - 04:02 PM

QUOTE (erindiv @ 31/01/2013, 04:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why can't such bonuses go directly to the schools, and the schools provide more materials, etc?


that would actually be a good idea!

#11 Fenrir

Posted 31 January 2013 - 04:02 PM

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Why can't such bonuses go directly to the schools, and the schools provide more materials, etc?

God yes!!! Because God knows some kids need it!!

#12 Excentrique Feral

Posted 31 January 2013 - 04:11 PM

I and many other slack people like me were not able to use the ETR due to loosing dockets and other confusion .

SB is brilliant. You get it when you need it, rather than after you have spent the money. I don't know what I would have done this year without it, starting my second child in a private school needing uniforms and a done of books etc. The money is now gone.

The way I see it, education is very important to the future of the country. The SB helps to ensure that more kids are properly equipped to start school. Teenagers are more likely to have a computer and printer in their home.

Tony Abbott will never ever get my vote. Even if Julia Gillard sneaks into Kevin Rudds house back stabs him for real. I may not be fond of her but she will run the country a darn site better than Abbott ever will.

#13 ~sydblue~

Posted 31 January 2013 - 04:11 PM

Oh I will have a whinge about maternity leave then and just say I think those who want to have kids should save to have them. If they can't afford to take time off work to have them without being paid for it, then don't have them.


#14 hiddensecrets

Posted 31 January 2013 - 04:12 PM

I think the bonus could go for the school and then families could get a certain allowance for school uniforms from the uniform shop after the voluntary fees and the school stationary are taken care of.

This would mean that the bonus is still paid and families still benefit BUT the money is not going into pockets to be used for other things.

To be honest if I didnt have to pay for stationary and fees and got, say a $50 (approx) credit for the uniform shop per child it would help.....yes it might only cover a shirt but its a shirt I wouldnt have to find the money for.

To me its a win win situation as the money is being used for what it should be.  And families benefit.

#15 Excentrique Feral

Posted 31 January 2013 - 04:15 PM

QUOTE (Poet in New York @ 31/01/2013, 04:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think this is a great idea, but I would like it to be split amongst schools in lower socioeconomic areas.

I actually do suspect that a lot of schools have demanded more on their book lists than they usually do. In a way, they are getting a good chunk of that money.

We have had to supply a pile of a4 paper, plain and coloured, laminating paper, whiteboard markers, rolls of stickytape, etc. They really are school supplies and not book list supplies.

#16 MrsLexiK

Posted 31 January 2013 - 04:16 PM

QUOTE (Excentrique @ 31/01/2013, 05:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I and many other slack people like me were not able to use the ETR due to loosing dockets and other confusion .

SB is brilliant. You get it when you need it, rather than after you have spent the money. I don't know what I would have done this year without it, starting my second child in a private school needing uniforms and a done of books etc. The money is now gone.

The way I see it, education is very important to the future of the country. The SB helps to ensure that more kids are properly equipped to start school. Teenagers are more likely to have a computer and printer in their home.

Tony Abbott will never ever get my vote. Even if Julia Gillard sneaks into Kevin Rudds house back stabs him for real. I may not be fond of her but she will run the country a darn site better than Abbott ever will.

But how is this difference from the princple of the BB? It helps to ensure that parents can look after their baby when it arrives. Why can't you save through the year for school expenses like parents are told re the PPL and the BB?

QUOTE (~sydblue~ @ 31/01/2013, 05:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Oh I will have a whinge about maternity leave then and just say I think those who want to have kids should save to have them. If they can't afford to take time off work to have them without being paid for it, then don't have them.

and you wouldn't need the SB lol.

#17 beastie

Posted 31 January 2013 - 04:17 PM

Good. Lets get rid of these entitlements. Everyone wants to fund ndis and gonski reforms but nobody wants to lose there bonuses.

#18 Froggilicious

Posted 31 January 2013 - 04:20 PM

QUOTE (erindiv @ 31/01/2013, 04:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why can't such bonuses go directly to the schools, and the schools provide more materials, etc?



Half of it used to, at least in Victoria, when it was EMA but that was scrapped meaning that school 'voluntary contributions' had to increase.

#19 qak

Posted 31 January 2013 - 04:30 PM

QUOTE (beastie @ 31/01/2013, 05:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Good. Lets get rid of these entitlements. Everyone wants to fund ndis and gonski reforms but nobody wants to lose there bonuses.


Exactly! The budget is not a bottomless pit.

#20 emmafg

Posted 31 January 2013 - 04:31 PM

I understand that even though bonus scrapped they will retain the "old" way of claiming school expenses back with receipts etc.



#21 Excentrique Feral

Posted 31 January 2013 - 04:39 PM

QUOTE (MrsLexiK @ 31/01/2013, 04:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
But how is this difference from the princple of the BB? It helps to ensure that parents can look after their baby when it arrives. Why can't you save through the year for school expenses like parents are told re the PPL and the BB?


and you wouldn't need the SB lol.

I save a little bit for emergencies. DH needs 5 teeth taken out as you would have it. Ta ta savings.

I'd like to see the BB given in the last trimester of pregnancy so that the money can go towards medical fees, prams, cots and such.

#22 Chchgirl

Posted 31 January 2013 - 05:00 PM

I have no idea what the school bonus is. I only found out today that the baby bonus was $5k!

#23 againagain

Posted 31 January 2013 - 05:22 PM

Most educated people would reserve their judgement until the entire budget had been revealed, rather than focussing on a minor cash splash.



#24 Julie3Girls

Posted 31 January 2013 - 05:40 PM

With the school bonus being a straight cash handout at this time of year, it would be interesting to see if number of people paying their voluntary contributions increases.

I'm betting it won't.

Really bugs me .. our school, the fees are only $25 for the first child, $15 for the next, 3rd+ are free. And people STILL don't pay.

I'd much rather see the school bonus changed, to have some of it going directly to the school. Keep the amount to parents at the start of the year, have the other other paid straight to the school. I can only imagine what the school could do with $200 per child, it would be fantastic for the school and the kids.

#25 Lucrezia Borgia

Posted 31 January 2013 - 05:48 PM

QUOTE (Julie3Girls @ 31/01/2013, 06:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'd much rather see the school bonus changed, to have some of it going directly to the school. Keep the amount to parents at the start of the year, have the other other paid straight to the school. I can only imagine what the school could do with $200 per child, it would be fantastic for the school and the kids.

I agree...but "schools" don't vote.....( I'm being cynical )




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