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New Mexico (US) proposed legislation to criminalise post rape abortion


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#1 FeralZupee

Posted 27 January 2013 - 01:16 PM

USA Today - N.M. bill calls post-rape abortion 'evidence tampering'

NBC News - Bill criminalizing abortions after rape causes an uproar in New Mexico

I'm so aghast at this, thankfully the news articles seem to be suggesting that it wouldn't be passed.
My knowledge of US politics is pretty poor, but I don't understand how this could even get to the 'proposing' stage.

(apologies if this has been posted before, I did a search but couldn't see anything)

Edited by SqueakInCanada, 27 January 2013 - 01:27 PM.


#2 ThatsNotMyName

Posted 27 January 2013 - 01:24 PM

Sadly I have no trouble believing this would be proposed. It's utterly appalling sad.gif

#3 Tiger Lilly

Posted 27 January 2013 - 01:40 PM

Is it saying that a person who is responsible for rape/incest would be charged if they try to force their victim to terminate... or

That the victim would be charged?

#4 FeralZupee

Posted 27 January 2013 - 02:56 PM

I read it that it sounds like the victim in the original proposal, but then they are trying to clarify that it would only apply to the person responsible? And the person who proposed this thinks that it will help deter rapists, I really can't see how - I would doubt that someone committing rape or incest is going to be deterred by a possible 'tampering with evidence' charge...

#5 baddmammajamma

Posted 27 January 2013 - 03:10 PM

QUOTE (SqueakInCanada @ 27/01/2013, 02:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm so aghast at this, thankfully the news articles seem to be suggesting that it wouldn't be passed.
My knowledge of US politics is pretty poor, but I don't understand how this could even get to the 'proposing' stage.

Legislation can be proposed by any member of the New Mexico legislature ("upper" or "lower" houses). Colleagues can sign on as "co-sponsors" to help generate support & momentum. It appears that she had 9 colleagues who co-signed.

A bill needs to pass both houses to be signed into law. The law maker who introduced this bill is a Republican. Generally speaking, Republicans don't have a great track record with introducing or supporting pro-choice legislation.

Since Democrats hold the majority in both houses, it is very unlikely that this bill will pass.

Often, you'll find people introducing bills that have no chance in hell of passing because they are trying to send a message to their core constituents -- or force "the other side" to respond.


QUOTE (Mexy @ 27/01/2013, 02:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is it saying that a person who is responsible for rape/incest would be charged if they try to force their victim to terminate... or

That the victim would be charged?


The author claims that she was trying to prevent rapists from forcing their victims to have abortions or "tampering" with any evidence that might prove a sexual assault crime" NOT that she was trying to charge victims with a crime. However, the language is written in a way that suggests that anyone "procuring" an abortion could be charged.

The Democrats are essentially saying, "Your excuse is bullsh*t. You & your party have a horrible record of protecting a woman's right to choose -- this is just another misguided tactic to try to criminalize abortions."

At least that's what I can gather from the few articles I've read.

#6 purplekitty

Posted 27 January 2013 - 03:13 PM

Pardon my cynicism about Cathyrnn Brown's motives in introducing the Bill..

"Brown’s apparent interest in protecting women should be taken within the context of her other pursuits, however, like serving on the board of Carlsbad’s Right to Life chapter, and posting images from the Life Issues Institute on her Facebook page. The Institute describes its mission as “assuring … equal protection under the law for all living humans from the beginning of their biological life at fertilization.”

From;
http://www.salon.com/2013/01/25/cathrynn_b..._abort_mission/

The NRA loves her as well.

She's really stepped in it I hope,misjudging the negative response.

#7 MarigoldMadge

Posted 27 January 2013 - 06:00 PM

This is big news but unlikely to pass...

however, by more subtle means, more and more Americans are losing access to abortion... This article highlights Mississippi, which may very well lose it's last abortion clinic within weeks...


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-21150116

#8 Hayleymumof3

Posted 27 January 2013 - 06:57 PM

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Bill HB206 is blazingly, insanely straightforward. It explains that “tampering with evidence shall include procuring or facilitating an abortion, or compelling or coercing another to obtain an abortion of a fetus that is the result of criminal sexual penetration or incest with the intent to destroy evidence of the crime” and states “whoever commits tampering with evidence shall be punished” with varying degrees of felony charges. Isn’t it sweet when politicians try to defend the cause of “life” by categorizing fetuses as “evidence”?


http://www.salon.com/2013/01/25/cathrynn_b..._abort_mission/


See this is just stupid.  They should still be able to obtain an abortion if they so wish but the "evidence" should be kept not disposed of therefore preserving the "evidence".  Simple solution but unfortunately there are some super crazies in the US that think that a woman's body is for nothing other than carrying a baby even if they want it or not.

ETA: I forgot to link the article.

Edited by hayleymumof3, 27 January 2013 - 06:58 PM.





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