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Decision re: Non Vaccinators Support Group


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#1 EBeditor

Posted 24 January 2013 - 03:06 PM

We have decided not to re-open the Non Vaccinators Support Group thread.

After much debate amongst the admin team we felt that we could not confidently prevent incorrect medical information being given out by members in regards to vaccination and natural alternatives.

Members may still discuss the vaccination schedule on an ad-hoc basis in relevant forums such as  General Health and Safety Tips or Baby, Toddlers and Children, representing either viewpoint so long as medical advice is not given.

We trust that non vaccinators who wish to stay in touch will form a buddy group away from EB/EK.

#2 Guest_AllegraM_*

Posted 24 January 2013 - 03:11 PM

Excellent decision. These groups do not need any perceived legitimacy by hanging on the coat-tails of EB. They can go and lurk in the dark corners of the net where they belong.

#3 cinnabubble

Posted 24 January 2013 - 03:31 PM

I absolutely support this decision. Well done, EBeditor.

#4 FeralBob!

Posted 24 January 2013 - 03:34 PM

I'm very, very pleased to hear that. I know that it exists out there, but I'm pleased that EB is not going to cloak it in a veneer of legitimacy.

#5 EsmeLennox

Posted 24 January 2013 - 03:35 PM

Very pleased to hear it. Well done EB.

#6 Sif

Posted 24 January 2013 - 03:37 PM

I trust then you will be advising EB NOT to state categorically

* that vaccinations are harmless and completely safe,

* that children who have had adverse reaction should STILL be vaccinated without question because it is a parents civil duty to vaccinate,

* that vaccinations provide immunity - when such a status cannot be verified without post-vaccination testing...

All these statements are ALSO incorrect/unsubstantiated medical information which is widely disseminated on Essential Baby.

#7 baddmammajamma

Posted 24 January 2013 - 03:38 PM

What a responsible decision. Thank you!

#8 baddmammajamma

Posted 24 January 2013 - 03:40 PM

QUOTE (Sif @ 24/01/2013, 04:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I trust then you will be advising EB NOT to state categorically

* that vaccinations are harmless and completely safe,

* that children who have had adverse reaction should STILL be vaccinated without question because it is a parents civil duty to vaccinate,

* that vaccinations provide immunity - when such a status cannot be verified without post-vaccination testing...

All these statements are ALSO incorrect/unsubstantiated medical information which is widely disseminated on Essential Baby.


Sif, with all due respect, you are really grasping at straws here.



#9 Mille-Mille

Posted 24 January 2013 - 03:41 PM

Great decision, thanks!

#10 Lyra

Posted 24 January 2013 - 03:44 PM

QUOTE (Sif @ 24/01/2013, 04:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I trust then you will be advising EB NOT to state categorically

* that vaccinations are harmless and completely safe,

* that children who have had adverse reaction should STILL be vaccinated without question because it is a parents civil duty to vaccinate,

* that vaccinations provide immunity - when such a status cannot be verified without post-vaccination testing...

All these statements are ALSO incorrect/unsubstantiated medical information which is widely disseminated on Essential Baby.



not in my experience.

#11 purplekitty

Posted 24 January 2013 - 03:45 PM

Great decision. Very responsible.

QUOTE (Sif @ 24/01/2013, 03:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
All these statements are ALSO incorrect/unsubstantiated medical information which is widely disseminated on Essential Baby.
Rubbish and if you ever returned to the vaccination threads you post in you would know this.


#12 Jane Jetson

Posted 24 January 2013 - 03:48 PM

This is great news, Amber.

Edited to add that hopefully this will mean fewer people are convinced into believing rubbish statements such as:

QUOTE
All these statements are ALSO incorrect/unsubstantiated medical information which is widely disseminated on Essential Baby.

Edited by Jane Jetson, 24 January 2013 - 03:49 PM.


#13 Mumma3

Posted 24 January 2013 - 03:54 PM

A victory for common sense. Thank you.


#14 cinnabubble

Posted 24 January 2013 - 03:54 PM

QUOTE (stopwhiningatme @ 24/01/2013, 04:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Excellent news.  I shall drink a homeopathic champagne, to celebrate.

I'll be indulging in some light reiki.

#15 Escapin

Posted 24 January 2013 - 03:56 PM

Sanity prevails, good work mods.

#16 EsmeLennox

Posted 24 January 2013 - 03:57 PM

No point trying to discuss with Sif, she's completed her hit and run for this thread.

#17 FiveAus

Posted 24 January 2013 - 03:59 PM

Well done, a very responsible decision.

#18 Super Cat

Posted 24 January 2013 - 04:10 PM

Wonderful news. The information spread by most anti vaxers is outright dangerous and untrue. The less people who get sucked in the better.

Edited by Super Cat, 24 January 2013 - 04:11 PM.


#19 solongsuckers

Posted 24 January 2013 - 04:18 PM

Good choice

#20 feralangel

Posted 24 January 2013 - 04:19 PM

I agree. It is a sensible decision.

#21 Klinkalink

Posted 24 January 2013 - 04:23 PM

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#22 protart roflcoptor

Posted 24 January 2013 - 04:24 PM

Thank you for listening to my/our (don't want to presume to speak for everyone) concerns and making a decision, Amber. It is appreciated.



#23 BetteBoop

Posted 24 January 2013 - 04:26 PM

I agree too. EB an information resource for a few hundred thousand people. Spreading dangerous misinformation, or promoting a false balance in the vaxx 'debate' should be avoided.

#24 beaglebaby

Posted 24 January 2013 - 04:33 PM

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#25 Cat People

Posted 24 January 2013 - 04:36 PM

So the vocal bullies win.  Boo.

It makes me really cross.  A group of bullies - yes that's what you call a pack with an agenda - hijacked a thread that was meant to be protected - a SUPPORT group - and Admin bows to the pressure.

One of those posters claimed she would use her 'influence' with the Mods to get the change.  So I guess that happened hey?

Choosing not to vaccinate is NOT illegal.   EB is meant to be for ALL parents, even those who don't vaccinate.  It's absolute bullsh*t and I'm not buying "incorrect medical information".  The thread was idle for months; until it was hijacked of course.  What about questions on formula, sleep, starting solids?  Lots of "incorrect medical" advise going on there.  

The stupidest part of all is at least here on EB, people had some chance of getting varied and unbiased information on vaccinations.  And now?  They'll be heading over to the very biased AVN.   Smart move.  Not.




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