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#1 sarkazm76

Posted 24 January 2013 - 02:46 PM

Just was on Centrelink online doing a income estimate update (DH got a new job) and thought while I was there I would start a claim for Paid Parental Leave as it asks you "are you expecting a child before xxxxxx" and a date.... as you can only claim up to 12 weeks before your due date I think.
So the date now is 30th April.

FYI.
So if you're due first week of May like me.... we should be able to lodge claims by end of next week I guess.

Last time I put a fake date in and went through most of the questions to see if it would ask me for employer info as it said your employer had to register online before you did your claim.... but it never asked me for any employer info and when I got far enough it said "you maybe eligible to complete the "claim for a newborn" form instead of this long form" but when I went looking for that other form do you think I could find it anywhere?!  I guess what it would do is take your existing info for income estimate, child care, family tax and then +1 child original.gif
So I emailed them requesting contact and laid out my questions.... still waiting for a reply of course!

So anyway.... it's for reasons such as these I get in early and thought I'd pass on in case it can help someone else biggrin.gif


#2 MrsLexiK

Posted 25 January 2013 - 11:18 AM

Thanks for that, I knew it was 12 weeks but wasn't sure when.  I was registered but my CRN number was lost when my iphone went cactus, I might try registering now.

#3 MrsLexiK

Posted 25 January 2013 - 11:34 AM

gah I just re did it and got to travel, who would have thought I would need my passport number to fill in the form!!!!! (I justb rought my due date to the 1st of May and they accepted it - only 1 day out and much easier to have done the form at work today while I am quiet)

#4 Beancat

Posted 25 January 2013 - 03:19 PM

Thanks Sarkazm, I am close to 12 weeks to go I think.  Am 25 tomorrow and am having baby at 38 weeks.  Will get onto this asap, thanks for reminding me

#5 explo

Posted 26 January 2013 - 08:55 AM

I read through the crazily long form the other day at work and it looks like if you lodge before the birth you have to re-lodge aspects of it after the birth and then they assess it.

For me, it looked like it was easier to do it after junior arrives and I have all the information, although I could have read it wrong, the paper form had something like 250 questions!

#6 FiveAus

Posted 26 January 2013 - 09:33 AM

QUOTE (scutterbug @ 26/01/2013, 09:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I read through the crazily long form the other day at work and it looks like if you lodge before the birth you have to re-lodge aspects of it after the birth and then they assess it.

For me, it looked like it was easier to do it after junior arrives and I have all the information, although I could have read it wrong, the paper form had something like 250 questions!



You don't have to answer them all though. The form doesn't just pertain to you and your circumstances, it's to cover all possibilities (adoption, foster children, change of care etc). And you don't have to "re-lodge" part of it after the baby is born.
The form you're given at the hospital has a lot of the same questions but if you've already answered them, you don't need to answer them again. But you do need to provide the babies details, acknowledge that you're claiming the same payments you nominated in your pre-claim, and sign it.

The easiest way to do it is to do the online claim before the baby is born. Then lodge the hospital form afterwards.

#7 butterflyme

Posted 26 January 2013 - 10:12 AM

I'm not in your DIG, but as I lodged mine this week I thought I'd give you some info I found out...

You are going to need your TFN, your DP TFN (if you are in a married/de facto relationship), both passport numbers if you've travelled in the past 10? years, arrival date in country if born o/s (and then you have to go in & prove you are a citizen even though you put in your Aus passport number mad.gif ), income for both of you for 2011-2012 fin year and estimation of 2012-2013 fin year, employer details (if you have worked at the same company for over 12months they HAVE to pay the leave, rather than the govern...) including ABN.   I'm sure there was more!! I spent a good hour filling mine in, and now I have to go to centrelink with 'proof' now as I was born o/s, urgh!  

I received a letter from Centrelink yesterday saying my claim has been assessed & I will need to forward proof of birth within 28 days of child's birth (otherwise payment may be delayed from when I wanted it back paid from).  I think you get some other docs from the hospital, but not sure what.

Good luck!

#8 sarkazm76

Posted 26 January 2013 - 11:28 AM

My understanding is that if you don't pre-claim you could be waiting awhile for it to be assessed so you may not get paid as quickly as you want to be.  Plus who wants to spend an hour filling out paperwork when you have a newborn?  

Last time, with DS1, I pre-lodged and all I had to do was go into Centrelink with the paperwrok from the hospital after he was born.  I filled it all out online for the pre-claim and did have to fill in the paper copy again (the one the hopsital give you) which was stupid and annoying but you can pretty much just copy your online claim form anyway.

#9 sarkazm76

Posted 26 January 2013 - 11:32 AM

PS - I never had to provide ID or any other evidence of anything.


#10 Bluemakede

Posted 26 January 2013 - 08:39 PM

I was at centrelink yesterday so had asked about this (mostly cause I receive austudy, so wanted to know what the go was with that), but anywho the lady advised me that the easiest thing was to submit online before the birth, after birth you just need to show proof of birth and then they'll complete the process.

#11 Taffyk

Posted 26 January 2013 - 08:45 PM

Definitely pre-lodge, much easier!

Also, you get a form in a pack at the hospital - it's essentially double-checking aspects of your original claim.  Most important bit is the last page - which is filled in by your midwife/OB.

#12 FiveAus

Posted 26 January 2013 - 08:48 PM

QUOTE (sarkazm76 @ 26/01/2013, 12:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My understanding is that if you don't pre-claim you could be waiting awhile for it to be assessed so you may not get paid as quickly as you want to be.  Plus who wants to spend an hour filling out paperwork when you have a newborn?  

Last time, with DS1, I pre-lodged and all I had to do was go into Centrelink with the paperwrok from the hospital after he was born.  I filled it all out online for the pre-claim and did have to fill in the paper copy again (the one the hopsital give you) which was stupid and annoying but you can pretty much just copy your online claim form anyway.


You should not have had to answer all the same questions again though, unless you didn't read the form properly and just went ahead and did it anyway.
After you've completed your details at the start, and nominated the payments you are claiming, it asks if there have been any changes, then directs you to the baby details, where you fill them in and provide your Medicare number. Then it asks if you've done an online claim and if you have, it directs you to the end of the form to sign it.You don't provide estimates again, or bank details or tax file numbers, or employer details as these would have already been provided in your pre-claim.
The last page will have been completed by the midwife and stamped with the hospital stamp, and this is proof of birth.


#13 Beancat

Posted 27 January 2013 - 08:39 AM

Ladies - definitely prelodge!!! I did this process 12 months ago for DD and have to do it again in couple of weeks. Get it sorted now before the nb arrives, you'll have plenty of other stuff to worry about and if Centrelink has any questions you can work it out now rather than delaying your payments

#14 Jaffacakes

Posted 27 January 2013 - 05:08 PM

Thanks for this info.... I have made a note on my calendar to investigate once I hit 28 weeks in late-Feb.

#15 Nervy

Posted 27 January 2013 - 05:37 PM

Hi Ladies,

Im from the due in June group but I was wondering if any of you knew if it is better to claim paid parental leave or the baby bonus for baby #2, i mean do you forgo the childcare rebate/ benefits and family tax benefits? Is there a calculator to work out what is better? Sorry to jump in!

#16 sarkazm76

Posted 27 January 2013 - 09:12 PM

The centrelink websit has a calculator but it's not really that good (unless they've changed it at some point) as it doesn't take all aspects into account.  When PPL first started in 2011 I used a calculator made by someone else and got the link from EB... not sure if it's still available or where to look though, sorry.

#17 MrsLexiK

Posted 27 January 2013 - 09:19 PM

QUOTE (butterflyme @ 26/01/2013, 11:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I'm not in your DIG, but as I lodged mine this week I thought I'd give you some info I found out...

You are going to need your TFN, your DP TFN (if you are in a married/de facto relationship), both passport numbers if you've travelled in the past 10? years, arrival date in country if born o/s (and then you have to go in & prove you are a citizen even though you put in your Aus passport number mad.gif ), income for both of you for 2011-2012 fin year and estimation of 2012-2013 fin year, employer details (if you have worked at the same company for over 12months they HAVE to pay the leave, rather than the govern...) including ABN.   I'm sure there was more!! I spent a good hour filling mine in, and now I have to go to centrelink with 'proof' now as I was born o/s, urgh!  

I received a letter from Centrelink yesterday saying my claim has been assessed & I will need to forward proof of birth within 28 days of child's birth (otherwise payment may be delayed from when I wanted it back paid from).  I think you get some other docs from the hospital, but not sure what.

Good luck!

I only needed my passport number because I had travelled in the last 3 years (i think it was because i stayed out for 6 weeks plus but not 100 per cent sure) Didn't need my DH's passport or TFN at all. It doesn't matter how much DH earns with PPL though, I think I filled in his estimate but I don't think that was in the PPL claim. The ABN was to verify my work though.




#18 sarkazm76

Posted 27 January 2013 - 09:21 PM

QUOTE (FiveAus @ 26/01/2013, 08:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You should not have had to answer all the same questions again though, unless you didn't read the form properly and just went ahead and did it anyway.
After you've completed your details at the start, and nominated the payments you are claiming, it asks if there have been any changes, then directs you to the baby details, where you fill them in and provide your Medicare number. Then it asks if you've done an online claim and if you have, it directs you to the end of the form to sign it.You don't provide estimates again, or bank details or tax file numbers, or employer details as these would have already been provided in your pre-claim.
The last page will have been completed by the midwife and stamped with the hospital stamp, and this is proof of birth.


Yes, thanks, it was 2 years ago - I don't remember exactly how much of the form I did or did not complete but I know at least part of it was just the same info I'd already supplied.  That was what I meant.  I can assure you I know how to read and complete forms biggrin.gif
The form may not even be the same now.


#19 Beancat

Posted 28 January 2013 - 08:27 AM

QUOTE (Jaffacakes @ 27/01/2013, 06:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thanks for this info.... I have made a note on my calendar to investigate once I hit 28 weeks in late-Feb.



Hi Nervy, Google Centrelink Estimator and you'll get a link to their general estimator, one of the options in the first question is to do this comparison.  Every case is differnet so its hard to tell - alot depends on your partners and your income and when you plan to return to work

BB is not taxed and my understanding is you are still entitled to both FTB A and B.  PPL forms part of your taxable income for the year and you cannot get FTB B whilst receiving it and it will also impact upon your eligibility for FTB A as it is counted as income.  Unfortuntately I have no choice with no 3 as I have not returned to work between 2 and 3 as they are so close together

#20 Moo point

Posted 28 January 2013 - 08:36 AM

Can I make a suggestion - keep a copy (scan or paper) of the newborn paperwork form you get from the hospital before handing over to Centrelink. They scan and shred this document - unfortunately for us they didn't scan the last 2 pages, the last one of which is the proof of birth form the hospital completes!! Took us over a week to fix it all up, and it was only because DH had scanned and kept the last page we were able to submit it without having to get the hospital to re-do it all over again.

#21 Nervy

Posted 28 January 2013 - 12:19 PM

Thank you so much due in May ladies! I'm due June 1 but went early with #1 so heres hoping we will get a May birthdate!

#22 Jenganoosh

Posted 28 January 2013 - 12:29 PM

I lodged mine this morning! Wow, makes #2 feel even more oh-so-real ohmy.gif 13-wks to go this Wed til CS on the 1st May eeek yayyy!

#23 Blossom73

Posted 29 January 2013 - 12:42 PM

I just did the online estimator and with PPL we come out 1640 ahead of baby bonus. Need to make sure I have my sums right on future earnings.

#24 sarkazm76

Posted 31 January 2013 - 05:50 PM

I found a proper calculator!!  Yay!  I think this is the one I used last time.

http://www.investmentpropertycalculator.co...calculator.html



#25 Gixxie

Posted 31 January 2013 - 09:30 PM

Nervy  If your bub is born from 1 July, go Paid parental leave as Baby bonus is reduced to 3 K instead of 5K for baby #2 onwards.

There are a couple of things to be careful of with paid parental leave.. original.gif

1. You cannot claim FTB while on PPL.

2. We are having our babies in the 12-13 financial year, so new financial year is only a month after bub is born... or there abouts. with FTB u get a extra $300 supplement when u lodge your tax. You cant get this if your on PPL as far as im aware as your not eligble for ftb while being paid PPL.

3. Paid parental leave is TAXED! baby bonus is NOT Taxed!
Anyone who is a high income earner, you may want to work out your sums... but for me... i actually am better off with Baby bonus then PPL because i get the FTB supplement, can claim FTB immedialtey.. this works out to be about $200 better.   If your taxed 30 c in the dollar rate then your going to be close call on which to claim.  But anyone earning above 80K you should be working out the figures. Do not use centrelink site because it gives me im better off on PPL, but it does not take into consideration what tax u pay and your tax rate!

If u were having bub in next finanacial year, then PPL would be better off, but due to being so close to end of financaial year for me personally baby bonus i will be about $300 better off.







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