thinking of a citroen c4 Grand picasso
anyone have one? what do you think?
, Jan 24 2013 02:32 PM
27 replies to this topic
Posted 24 January 2013 - 02:32 PM
HI there, we are thinking of purchasing a new 7 seater and have come across the citroen c4 grand picasso, would love to hear of reviews of this car if you have one,
thanks in advance
Posted 24 January 2013 - 02:47 PM
Isolabella is a huge fan - I'm sure she'll respond.
Posted 24 January 2013 - 02:52 PM
Watching this thread as we are also contemplating the Picasso. I have read lots of great things about them.
Posted 24 January 2013 - 02:56 PM
We had a rent of one for a number of weeks in europe and loved it. It's the same or smaller than our camry but so much more roomy inside. Not thrilled with service/repair costs in australia.
We chipped the windscreen on the rental (stone flew off gravel verge) and the quote was like $2000+ to replace, because it's so huge.
Posted 24 January 2013 - 04:04 PM
Yes, the one thing I have taken note of is to check you have good windscreen insurance on it:)
Posted 24 January 2013 - 04:46 PM
I have one, had it for 5 years now. Repairs are expensive and you need the windscreen insurance! But it's a great car. It's not much bigger than a station wagon in length or width. We have four kids but we are not all in the car that often. The back row is only good for kids. My teen doesn't like sitting there anymore.
The middle row is fantastic because there are 3 individual seats and plenty of room. Front seats are great. Fuel economy is fantastic in the diesel version, not much more than my Mazda 323.
The thing to keep in mind is that it is a small people mover so nothing like a KIA or Chrysler etc.
It is also pretty cool inside and once you get used to the windscreen and lack of handbrake it's great. We were going to replace our car this year but couldn't find a better alternative - except perhaps the Peugeot or the Prius 7 seater.
Posted 24 January 2013 - 05:30 PM
Me me me!!!
I have had mine for three years. Taking it for its 60kms service tomorrow.
Still in love with mine. If I win 6m tonight I would buy a new one ina different colour. Mine I got for a $5k discount if I was willing to take it in red before quarter end.
I have the panoramic sunroof and leather pack. Also had AUX connection for iPod. What I really want is Bluetooth but at the time of purchasing that was part of a $4k stereo package.
Runs beautifully. The tyre pressure warning has saved us money as we had a sudden flat on the Tulla. We immediately pulled over, changed tyres. Then it was a patch repair not a full new tyre cost.
Servicing is done every 20k rather then every 10k which my Jazz was. Two jazz services is the same cost as the Picasso.
Yes I have taken out the AAMI $50 optional extra for windscreen insurance.
I have three in car seats across the middle. Boot space is huge and interior just feels roomy. We also looked at the Peugeot 308SW, but felt claustrophobic in that and it had tiny boot space. My head also hit the roof when going over bumps when I was sitting in the third row. 6ftDH can manage the third row (if middle row is forward) in the Picasso.
I did recently have a caritas error warning light come on after the 45dregree day in Sydney. Dealer servicing looked at it for no cost and reset it. Warning light did not come back (so suspect electrical error in epwarning light).
Very happy with my car!!!
When I purchased it it showed only 1cm longer the a mazda3 and same length as a Holden Astra. So it is a small car lengthwise.
Final addition fuel economy for me averages 8.4L
Edited by lsolaBella, 24 January 2013 - 05:34 PM.
Posted 24 January 2013 - 06:41 PM
We took a 3yo??? turbo diesel for a test drive recently, but it had a real lag when you put your foot down to take off at lights etc. We didn't like that ( that says a lot coming from us who drive a Renault Scenic, lol), but as it's the first one we have driven we don't know if that is normal or a fault with that particular car.
Would love feedback from those that have a Picasso on the lag, pllllllease;) TIA
Posted 24 January 2013 - 06:46 PM
We're also looking at a Picasso - we currently have a turbo diesel Jetta - I think the lag is quite common in diesels (so I've been told) - the Jetta lags at the lights but you just figure it into your driving - doesn't bother me at all.
Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:00 PM
Lag got me I initially, but now I drive around it, so yes I am the mummy at the lights who can out drag a hoon
Probably the strangest thing for me was the steering wheel shift. Now I am used to it and feel funny driving my folks Jazz.
Mine has done lots of Kms as we drive to Sydney from Melb. Very good hwy cruising and no lack of grunt.
Eta auto park break, auto lights and auto windscreen wipers rock. There has only been one occasion when I felt I needed lights on and the car didn't automatically out them on.... That was a very bright but foggy morning in Melbourne.
Edited by lsolaBella, 24 January 2013 - 07:03 PM.
Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:17 PM
thanks for your replies but now i have another question, what are the servicing cost like average $ and is it true that in general european cars that are no longer under warranty aren't popular with the dealers for trade in etc?
Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:23 PM
We never trade in our cars. We always private sell them. Trade in will always result in lower $ for you.
I will be able to tell you costs from tomorrow's service.
My Jazz was around $200 to dealer service and the Picasso $400, but I had to do two Jazz services per Picasso service.
I sold my old SAAB for the money I wanted years ago (was a 13yo car) and I private sold for the money I wanted (after being quoted $5k less by dealer for trade in). It was just a case if waiting for the right buyer. Sure it took 7-8wks to find that buyer, whereas my Jazz sold within 24hrs for the price I wanted.
Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:26 PM
My sister has one and I have driven it quite a bit. I really like it and very easy to manouvre/park!
Still does not stop me from calling her a soccer mum
Posted 24 January 2013 - 07:39 PM
Mine is Red. Althought we are a Wiggles and Hi Five free house (kids get to listen to mummy music) upon loading the three kids in the car I do some times come out with Choo Choo Chugga Chugga Big Red Car.
Yes the mummy mobile.
Doesn't win stylish awards on the outside from me, but inside that is where the Love is. Such room for such a small car. I just pretend I am driving a Pony like my brother overseas (pony is a Ferrari). Ironically when we first heard he had purchased that we thought wow on his spending that money, but then when we put it as a percentage of annual income.... The Picasso was more of ours
Edited by lsolaBella, 24 January 2013 - 07:42 PM.
Posted 24 January 2013 - 10:20 PM
thanks Isolabella, i think we may take it for a test drive and i will try and spot you on the tulla, we are in melbourne as well
Posted 25 January 2013 - 06:53 AM
The lag takes a bit of getting used to, but my other car is a sports model manual and I have a quick reaction at lights so it's probably more the way I drive as DH never notices it. I do sometimes use the paddles to manually change gears but again it's because I drive a manual as well.
Ours is leased so I don't know the cost of servicing. We did have major repairs to the back wheels/brakes which cost $3K!! It wasn't picked up by the services but at that stage we were taking it to a local European car mechanic and I think they were slack. We now take it to Citroen.
It also has a massive amount of cargo space if you put all the seats down. We recently brought a lounge home in it.
Posted 25 January 2013 - 07:15 AM
There are a few around where I live. There is a golden yellow (one colour you could not pay me to drive), white, dark grey silver, silver, blue silver. I even saw another red one in the road on Tuesday in West Brunswick.
My breaks should be replaced this service, so will let you know costs.
We replaced all 4 tyres around 40lk. That was $1k for new tyres - chose not to go with dealer service tyres, but local tyre store.
Posted 25 January 2013 - 08:10 AM
Thanks for your replies, the service costs have me a little worried but anything with seven seats is going to cost more to service etc, it has a great safety rating.
Posted 25 January 2013 - 08:18 AM
With the lag issue, diesels generally are not as responsive as petrol engines but the modern European cars we have driven also have the smart computer system thingy (very technical lol).
It adapts the transmission to the driver so when a new driver first hops into the car, and they have a different drive style to the previous driver, the car feels strange and may be extra sluggish or touchy. It takes a day or two to 'train' the car which is why our family no longer likes car swapping. This can be overcome by changing gears manually.
Posted 26 January 2013 - 09:34 AM
I will be able to tell you costs from tomorrow's service.
How did the service go?
Posted 26 January 2013 - 11:31 AM
$1,200 including replacing drake discs and brake pads (previous service at another dealer said they were wearing thin and would need to be replaced at this service).. Actual servicing costs still around $450.
Compared to the more often Jazz or CRV it still ends out being similar over same time period for us.
Posted 26 January 2013 - 11:44 AM
I bought a secondhand Picasso last year, 2009 model. Many hours of research, a lot of them on EB, led up to the purchase.
It's petrol but the fuel economy is comparable with my old car, a 2000 Golf GL.
LOVE this car. Everything about it is just so right.
I wanted the diesel/sunroof/leather package but this car was a bargain and the kilometres were low. It's silver.
Can't say I've noticed lag, although there is a hill-start delay function which I find very handy.
I hired a Kia Grand Carnival for a recent holiday and the kids wanted to know where the tray tables were.
Posted 26 January 2013 - 11:52 AM
My kids are just discovering the tray tables. I may need to bring some if the middle row seats forward for them to use on long drives (as my drivers seats is very far forward as I am under 5ft).
Had a a Dodge Journey for the day as a loan car (servicing place previously sold Ctiroen, but now does Dodge/jeep but kept their servicing credentials including Wareanty recall stuff). OMG I felt like I was in a submarine. No interior room whatsoever. Very lucky I didn't have to put DS1 in the frnt seat as DDs Compaq thankfully just fitted in the middle seating position and I could then just do up the boys boosters. The boot space was tiny too.
Posted 26 January 2013 - 11:55 AM
Actually my dream car would be Black, tinted windows, Yellowstone leather pack, diesel, Bluetooth (although I think this is std now), front parking sensors and parking assist(in on foreign models), and get someone to be able to hard wire ipad minis into the area where the tray tables are (ie area meant for DVD screens).
Ahh must win lottery for custom job. I don't think they do the exclusive or Yellowstone here in Aust anymore.
Posted 26 January 2013 - 06:57 PM
you have sold my husband with your reviews, he wasnts to see it in the flash now, thanks for all of your replies, Isolabella is there a particular dealership that you have dealt with that you like? we are in melb vic and i am assuming you would be close by
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