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#1 Poussey

Posted 22 January 2013 - 08:55 PM

Can someone please tell me...

Are there any supermarket brands of pork that are truly ethical?

Is Otway Free Range worth buying? Is Coles' claim re: sow stalls enough? Or are these pigs still miserably treated?

I don't have an organic butcher convenient to me, it is much easier for me to buy from Coles/Woolworths.

And while we are at it, I buy the Sunny Farms Organic eggs and Lilydale Freerange chicken (Inglewood Farms is prohibitively expensive).

Am I buying quality products or hype?



#2 skylark

Posted 22 January 2013 - 08:58 PM

I have found the Otway free range pork to be much higher quality to usual supermarket meat.

#3 **Xena**

Posted 22 January 2013 - 09:35 PM

Sow stalls are banned in Tasmania so any Tasmanian meat.

ETA: Sorry it looks like it's actually aimed to be phased out by mid this year along with caged eggs so there may still be some Tassie farmers that haven't made the transition yet:

http://www.ausfoodnews.com.au/2012/05/21/b...f-tasmania.html

Edited by **Xena**, 22 January 2013 - 11:35 PM.


#4 Guest_3Keiki_*

Posted 22 January 2013 - 09:38 PM

otway is sow stall free

#5 axiomae

Posted 22 January 2013 - 09:43 PM

Sunny Farm eggs are a company that still have cage chickens. They just have *some* hens pastured, You want to support a company that doesn't use cages at all.

Ecoeggs are great. More expensive, but worth it.

www.ecoeggs.com.au

#6 Green Fairy

Posted 22 January 2013 - 09:47 PM

Haven't Coles just announced all their pork is sow stall free? I thought that was backed up by the RSPCA as well?

Actually looking into it a bit further, I'm not so sure they have gone far enough to really be ethical sad.gif

Edited by Green Fairy, 22 January 2013 - 09:50 PM.


#7 The Fright B4 Xmas

Posted 22 January 2013 - 09:50 PM

QUOTE (Stan the Fan Man @ 22/01/2013, 09:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Can someone please tell me...

Are there any supermarket brands of pork that are truly ethical?

Is Otway Free Range worth buying? Is Coles' claim re: sow stalls enough? Or are these pigs still miserably treated?

I don't have an organic butcher convenient to me, it is much easier for me to buy from Coles/Woolworths.

And while we are at it, I buy the Sunny Farms Organic eggs and Lilydale Freerange chicken (Inglewood Farms is prohibitively expensive).

Am I buying quality products or hype?


Otway is fine.

Sunny Farms is owned by Ingham, who factory farm.
Lilydale is owned by Baiada who also factory farm.

Inglewood and Cleavers are the only two big ethically produced poultry/egg brands around (you may find good small local producers).

Visit www.ethical.org.au


#8 Clever Clogs

Posted 22 January 2013 - 09:50 PM

You could not eat it

#9 i-candi

Posted 22 January 2013 - 10:06 PM

Coles fine print on the pork say they are sow stall free which means the sows can 'socialise'.

You tell me what that means???? what they talk between the shorter fences??? I'm sceptical

#10 againagain

Posted 22 January 2013 - 11:58 PM

Coles media release. Not all the Coles stuff will be stall free until 2014
http://www.coles.com.au/Portals/0/content/...0Initiative.pdf

#11 B.feral3

Posted 23 January 2013 - 12:27 AM

Is Lilydale free range chicken not as they say? I buy this and pay about $17 per kg for thigh and breast. There is a picture with a chicken on a green hill or something on the packet. When they describe 'free range' I assume this means they can wander free outdoors in the sun soaking up the vitamin D, searching for and eating insects as they would in their natural diet and overall they live a quality existence.  Are you saying that Lilydale are being deceptive and this is not true? I would like to know if I'm being conned.

#12 Feral Grey Mare

Posted 23 January 2013 - 12:42 AM

QUOTE (Bek+3 @ 23/01/2013, 01:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Is Lilydale free range chicken not as they say? I buy this and pay about $17 per kg for thigh and breast. There is a picture with a chicken on a green hill or something on the packet. When they describe 'free range' I assume this means they can wander free outdoors in the sun soaking up the vitamin D, searching for and eating insects as they would in their natural diet and overall they live a quality existence.  Are you saying that Lilydale are being deceptive and this is not true? I would like to know if I'm being conned.


The official definition of "free range" is something like  9 hens per square metre in a shed that has outdoor access for minimum  8 hours per day. This does not mean the hens at the back of the shed actually get outside, they just could in theory if they could get past all the others. "Free range" does not mean that the hens are wandering about in a sunny green paddock all day.

#13 IShallWearMidnight

Posted 23 January 2013 - 01:41 AM

interested too (though I dont eat pork, but I eat chicken and lamb)

#14 jessie123

Posted 23 January 2013 - 08:58 AM

Check out ethical.org.au

About Otway Pork

Some criticism that the label is misleading and open to abuse by  producers. 'Bred free range' piglets are born outdoors, to mothers that  live in the open, but once weaned (at about three weeks) and then housed  inside and unable to range for the 16-18 weeks before slaughter. The  mothers are however spared confinement in farrowing crates which many  people believe to be the most inhumane aspect of intensive pig farming.

There is interesting reading about Lilydale too.

Simply being organic or free range doesn't necessarily mean they are great products.




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