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#1 tiefbloom

Posted 22 January 2013 - 01:25 AM

I've been looking at the websites of the primary schools in the area we're looking to move to and very few have school uniforms (inner north of Melbourne) and I found this strange.

What are your thoughts on school uniforms? Do you children have to wear one/do they not wear one?

I've always liked the idea of uniforms precisely because they unify!

#2 ~sydblue~

Posted 22 January 2013 - 03:33 AM

I've never heard of a school that doesn't have them. Except for the one I attended when I was about 7-9yrs old.
DD8's uniform this year is black skorts and a maroon polo or the dress. She has 2 dresses & 3 skorts & polos.
DD13's is bottle green long pants or green tartan skirt & white blouse. She has 2 pants, 1 skirt & 3 blouses.

#3 Mummalovin

Posted 22 January 2013 - 03:43 AM

We have uniforms, sky blue polo - navy shorts/skort.  

I love the idea of a uniform.  No having to decide what to wear and having to keep up with the latest fashions.

My kids know they have to wear them and that some things in life are not negotiable.

#4 newphase

Posted 22 January 2013 - 04:34 AM

A lot of schools around Brunswick, Carlton, Princess Hill etc don't have uniforms, I don't no why, I too found this interesting when I found out as I persumed all schools had a uniform these days...in VIC anyway. I always knew University High didnt have a uniform and Princes Hill SC, didn't know a lot of the PS around same area din't either. Wonder why when all others these days do. I know when I was a kid many moons ago uniform was optional, but nowadays was surprised to find quite a few without.

#5 TinyTeddys

Posted 22 January 2013 - 04:57 AM

A friend of my cousin went to school in Canberra...they didn't have a uniform but were suppose to wear school colours (red, black & white). In saying that but, apparently it wasn't strongly enforced.

#6 liveworkplay

Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:07 AM

I am very pro uniform for many reasons one bring it saves all the hassle of trying to find something to wear! My kids school has a very strict uniform code, as did the school I attended. we have one local, alternative, independent parent run school that do not do uniforms, all the rest do.

#7 The Old Feral

Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:12 AM

I'm from the same area, our school has a uniform but as you say it's uncommon. I wouldn't read too much into it though, some of those schools without uniforms have a great reputation (Brunswick South for example) so it doesn't seem to make a difference.

I probably prefer no uniform simply because my kids already have a heap of clothes and didn't need more! Plus replacing lost hats and jumpers is a pain in the bum if you are required to use a particular school one.

#8 msro82

Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:12 AM

The only school I can think of in southern Tasmania without a uniform is the local Steiner school!

DD goes to a catholic school and the uniform is quite strict and I love it!

#9 JRA

Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:19 AM

I love school uniforms. I love the "belonging", I love the ease of it.

DS seems to live in a uniform, school uniform, hockey uniform, nippers uniform, basketball uniform

#10 2bundles

Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:23 AM

DS goes to a school with an optional (although encouraged) uniform.

Most of the younger kids wear it. Most of the year 7s (Qld) don't.

After a year in Canada where very few schools have uniforms, my take is it is easier to have a uniform, but its not essential.

#11 kpingitquiet

Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:27 AM

Ohhh where? I strongly dislike uniforms original.gif

#12 Single.mum.nz

Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:32 AM

My daughters primary school (in NZ) doesn't have a uniform, it's getting more common that schools here do but I'm so so glad that my daughters doesnt. There is no competition, I'm a single mum on a low income and the daughter of a quite prominent politician who is in the same class couldn't be told apart, they semi often turn up in the same tshirt etc etc. Kmart clothes are just as common as pumpkin patch or botique type stores, as are cotton on and Farmers the Myer equivalent. I like the individuality it brings. Have to admit the first day oversized uniform pics are cute though!!  Intermediate (2 years between primary and high school so 11-12 year olds give or take) and high school have uniforms and for that I'm grateful as that's when competition is rife!

#13 Handsfull

Posted 22 January 2013 - 07:27 AM

Love a uniform, absolutely hate it when you don't.  I went to school in America when I was young and it was so competitive, had to have the right brand jeans, bag etc to fit in.  

Love that my girls can go to school and not feel different from the rest.  

#14 Genabee

Posted 22 January 2013 - 07:34 AM

The school my DD will be going to doesn't have a uniform. It was the one thing I was a bit iffy about... This is because it relates to the school's philosophy (which I obviously do like). They are also not allowed to wear clothes that have brand names or logos all over them, which I am all for. I don't like the idea of kids competing to outdo each other's wardrobes.

In general, I am pro-uniform though. It makes knowing what to wear so much easier! And as others have mentioned, it creates a sense of belonging and community.

I will probably create a uniform of sorts anyway - a whole bunch of the same t-shirts, shorts and trackies... And they won't be fancy!

#15 farfaraway

Posted 22 January 2013 - 07:40 AM

Pro-uniform all the way here. We're in Canberra, DD1 is at a Catholic primary school with a great sense of pride in their school, in part expressed through how they wear the uniform.

I've taught in schools both with and without uniforms, including a couple overseas. Uniforms are a great equaliser in my experience.

#16 Marchioness Flea

Posted 22 January 2013 - 07:55 AM

Slightly off topic...but do your make your kids get out of the uniform(even if it's just a school polo top and black pants) when they get home from school?
I went to catholic schools with a strict uniform(can't ever wear bottle green or pin striped shirts because of the horrible flashbacks) and we always had to take ours off after school, but the kids next door who go to the local school wear theirs till bedtime.
I find it strange, and they look really crappy by the end of the year, holes in the pants knees etc.
So do your kids get changed after school or not worry?

I'm team uniform too, it looks neater and saves wear and tear on the rest of their clothes, and there's no "my jeans are a better brand/colour/fit than yours!"

#17 B.feral3

Posted 22 January 2013 - 08:27 AM

What a nightmare. I don't think I would send my kid to a school that didn't have a uniform. I experienced it for the 2 years I lived in the US and it was a royal PITA.

#18 seepi

Posted 22 January 2013 - 08:36 AM

I think there are issues with uniforms:

- people hate that colour for the rest of their lives

- kids never learn to coordinate colours

- they end up with heaps of half worn clothes - eg the ones from afteschool

- they have way too many clothes, as they have uniform AND casual/party/outdoor etc outfits.

- uniforms are often expensive

#19 slvhwke

Posted 22 January 2013 - 08:40 AM

My DS's school doesn't have a uniform.  It's a Steiner though so part of their general philosophy.

The clothes aren't allowed to have logos or brands on them. However very few places sell unlogoed t-shirts around here so all the boys have the same range of K-Mart/Target essential shirts and plain cargo pants. biggrin.gif

I ended up getting 7 plain shirts in various colours & some plain cargos.  DS just rotates them throughout the week.  

I may possibly be missing the point of the "self-expression" that the school encourages... ph34r.gif

#20 mombasa

Posted 22 January 2013 - 08:44 AM

I love having a uniform, DD is at a Christian College so the uniform is strictly enforced, they all even have the same bag, I think it looks great and tidy. Was also extremely useful at a recent excursion where there were around 5 other Schools, made it easier picking our kids original.gif

#21 liveworkplay

Posted 22 January 2013 - 08:53 AM

I think there are issues with uniforms:

- people hate that colour for the rest of their lives

- kids never learn to coordinate colours

- they end up with heaps of half worn clothes - eg the ones from afteschool

- they have way too many clothes, as they have uniform AND casual/party/outdoor etc outfits.

I happen to still love the main colour my uniform was Tounge1.gif I don't know about half worn clothes, my kids just need less clothes then if they didn't have a uniform. They are all, fine with coordinating colours. I don't see how 6 hours, 5 days a week in uniform would stifle that. DD3 (who isn't at school yet) has daycare clothes, home clothes and party clothes so I don't see the difference?

IME I have found more and more schools being a lot stricter on uniforms now days then when I went to school so there must be a lot of people that find them a positive.

#22 Soontobegran

Posted 22 January 2013 - 09:00 AM

I would have been reluctant to have sent my children to a no uniform school I am afraid.
Uniforms stop the morning angst when it comes to choosing what to wear, they create a sense of pride and belonging, they stop the peer issues between those who have and those who have not and this is definitely an issue throughout the 13 years of schooling.
On uniform free occasions such as camps, some excursions, some sports it is not uncommon to see children being teased for their clothing and footwear.......it is horrible but it happens so I would rather that there was not this ammunition provided every single school day.

Clothes are not identifying the person so I've never subscribed to the self expression theory. I have worn a uniform my entire school and working life, there was never references made about us that mentioned our uniforms but us as individuals.

OP, if the school is a great one then I would very much consider buying our own 'uniform' of a few clothes that we could rotate throughout the week but then I'd be getting onto the school council or P&C to suggest they think about bringing in a uniform original.gif

ETA- Our kids had navy and gold for primary and navy with a navy and green tartan for secondary, they loved their uniforms so I think it is important that schools do put some thought into the colours and styles of uniform.

Edited by soontobegran, 22 January 2013 - 09:06 AM.

#23 seepi

Posted 22 January 2013 - 09:17 AM

I had egg yolk yellow and baby sh*t brown so maybe that's why I'm not a big fan.

#24 ubermum

Posted 22 January 2013 - 09:22 AM

It's the hippy factor in the area where you are living. A large percentage of parents that want their kids to "express themselves" rolleyes.gif I love uniforms and would be dissapointed if our chosen school chose not to have one.

#25 elizabethany

Posted 22 January 2013 - 09:23 AM

QUOTE (seepi @ 22/01/2013, 10:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I had egg yolk yellow and baby sh*t brown so maybe that's why I'm not a big fan.

I had these too, but it wasn't a problem because everyone wore it too.  I was pleased to see that they have now changed it to yellow and black...

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