Jump to content

Is there a car that meets my obscure criteria?


  • Please log in to reply
47 replies to this topic

#1 RockyV

Posted 21 January 2013 - 08:24 PM

OK, looking for a car that is:

- medium sized
- European
- Fits 3 kids along the back (2 in car seats)
- Diesel
- Manual Transmission
- Boot space enough for pram or other kid related paraphernalia.

There are more diesels now available in Aus but most are auto transmission. As we have kids who will eventually learn to drive in this car, I want to have a manual.

DH prefers diesels for fuel efficiency / eco reasons.

We currently have a VW Jetta which is auto, and I don't love it. There is a lag before take off and it seems to stall a bit (WTF?). For the price tag I don't think it is worth it.

Anyone have any suggestions?

#2 VeritasVinum

Posted 21 January 2013 - 08:30 PM

Apart from manual (although you can do manual mode with paddle flaps) is the Citroen C4 grand Picasso.



#3 katrina24

Posted 21 January 2013 - 08:31 PM

i30 wagon.  We have one and it's great.  It's just won another NRMA award this year I think.  I have 2 in seats. Can't fit a third seat with our arrangement but a small to medium sized adult can sit between the seats and an infa booster cushion fits between the seats as well.  The boot space is great as it's a wagon.  We have the diesel manual and it's fuel efficiency is great. It's not too noisy either (I was worried about this with diesel).  I'm pretty sure it's European designed.

Edited by katrina24, 21 January 2013 - 08:32 PM.


#4 Chief Pancake Make

Posted 21 January 2013 - 08:31 PM

Renault Koleos?

#5 The Old Feral

Posted 21 January 2013 - 08:31 PM

I have a Volvo V50 which meets all your criteria.... mine is auto but manual is an option.

Brilliant car, I love it.

The lag on taking off is pretty standard for a diesel think, though DH has had diesel Mercedes through work which do it less than mine.

#6 debut dad

Posted 21 January 2013 - 08:32 PM

I know you don't like your Jetta, but have you considered the VW Golf Wagon?

It has 2 diesel variants (a 1.6 TDI and a 2.0 TDI)

Mid-sized, Euro and big boot for your pram(s) and other stuff.

Good luck with the hunt!

#7 dadwasathome

Posted 21 January 2013 - 08:35 PM

Technically the DSG transmissions in VAG cars are a twin clutch automated manual. Manuals are a real dying breed - perhaps a Skoda (which I have and happily recommend) but the width for 3 seats and a child will be the problem, along with manual

Edited by dadathome, 21 January 2013 - 08:50 PM.


#8 Gumbette

Posted 21 January 2013 - 08:35 PM

A Volvo XC60? Not sure if it comes in a manual though.

#9 Tea-snob

Posted 21 January 2013 - 08:38 PM

Hi.

Have you thought about a Ford Mondeo? They do a diesel model, have a huge boot, have European styling and they're made overseas.

If you weren't after something European, I would recommend the Ford G6 eco boost. It's their new four cylinder engine, as much grunt as the 6 cylinder but much more environmentally friendly ( can you tell we just bought a new car?! All the research is still fresh in my head!!) the boot is massive, seriously I could sleep in there!!

I think you might have trouble finding all of that in a manual, but others might be able to help!

Good luck!

#10 RockyV

Posted 21 January 2013 - 08:40 PM

Thanks for all those suggestions.

We have a Volvo XC90 (also diesel) and I don't find it has the same lag despite being a much bigger car. Perhaps I just expect it to be sluggish because it is like a truck whereas I expect the VW to be zippy!!

I'm reluctant to give another VW a go.. so not keen on the Golf.

Surely diesel manuals exist other than in buses and outback 4wds?!

I'll do some research on the ones named.

#11 vanessa71

Posted 21 January 2013 - 08:43 PM

Are you looking to buy new? If you are, can't you just order a manual? I did when I ordered my car, but that was 7 years ago. My car fits your criteria except for the fact that it's not diesel, but diesel is definitely available, I have a BMW 320i.

#12 liveworkplay

Posted 21 January 2013 - 08:44 PM

Why does it have to be European?

Mazda 6 fits all your criteria except that.

#13 FiveAus

Posted 21 January 2013 - 08:44 PM

I thought the i30 was Korean, not European. I had one for a week when my X-trail was being repaired and I thought the only bigger piece of sh*t I'd driven was a Kia. But the one I had was a hatch, not a wagon, so the wagon might be better.

Does the Opel Astra meet your criteria?

#14 aphraell

Posted 21 January 2013 - 08:45 PM

Land rover evoque
Audi Q3
Skoda Octavia



#15 katrina24

Posted 21 January 2013 - 08:48 PM

The i30 is Korean but with 'European styling' whatever that means.  Did you drive the diesel manual? I much prefer it to the auto.

#16 RockyV

Posted 21 January 2013 - 08:52 PM

European is the preference just because of safety, quality made, and also because our other car is and we switch between the two and it sounds very lazy but switching indicator sides each time you get in the car is a PITA.

That being said, they are heftier price tags, and expensive to service. It will be bought on a business which helps but still doesn't mean we can spend thousands & thousands (audi and bmw might be getting too pricey?).

I drove a Mazda 6 a few years ago and loved it but at the time we were upgrading there was no diesel available. If I can't find something that fits all the criteria, then I would happily drive one of them again.

Not sure about special order manuals... I can always ask.

I haven't heard of some of the cars listed so I'll do some more research, thanks again!

#17 dadwasathome

Posted 21 January 2013 - 08:54 PM

QUOTE (vanessa71 @ 21/01/2013, 09:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Are you looking to buy new? If you are, can't you just order a manual?


A number of makes are starting to simply not offer manuals any longer - IIRC you can only get manual 3-series (some models) these days in BMW. All others are various autos.

Mondeo is one I hadn't thought of though - I'm pretty sure we get Belgian rather than Thai built vehicles here.

And your request for manula is interesting - the view in the industry is that the lack of an auto is the reason why Mazda 6 and Subaru diesels haven't sold well to date. Skoda had a similar issue until around 18 months ago.

Edited by dadathome, 21 January 2013 - 08:56 PM.


#18 MrsLexiK

Posted 21 January 2013 - 09:05 PM

QUOTE (vanessa71 @ 21/01/2013, 09:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Are you looking to buy new? If you are, can't you just order a manual? I did when I ordered my car, but that was 7 years ago. My car fits your criteria except for the fact that it's not diesel, but diesel is definitely available, I have a BMW 320i.


No, if only it was this easy.
I also would look at the Mazda 6 or the Mondeo. I don't think (nor does my DH who is mechanic and has worked for dealerships and workshops) that euro = safer and better quality.

Edited by MrsLexiK, 21 January 2013 - 09:06 PM.


#19 FiveAus

Posted 21 January 2013 - 09:30 PM

QUOTE (katrina24 @ 21/01/2013, 09:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The i30 is Korean but with 'European styling' whatever that means.  Did you drive the diesel manual? I much prefer it to the auto.


It was an auto, but it wasn't so much the way it drove, it was the crappy build quality. Korean car makers are fantastic at loading their vehicles with cup holders and sunglasses clips, and all manner of cheap electronic gizmos, but they sure don't have a nice solid "thunk" when you shut the door, and the cheap fittings and economy paint job don't inspire confidence that this car will hold a decent resale value. It was definitely not on par with the likes of the Volkswagen Golf or other European hatches. Or the Japanese ones.

#20 vanessa71

Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:57 AM

The next car I wanto to get is a VW CC, which would also fit your criteria, but I am reading that it is an 'automated manual' - is that all that is going to be available to me now?  sad.gif

#21 sammyv

Posted 22 January 2013 - 07:14 AM

What about an Audi A3 or A4 wagon

#22 Gumbette

Posted 22 January 2013 - 07:21 AM

QUOTE (FiveAus @ 21/01/2013, 10:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
It was an auto, but it wasn't so much the way it drove, it was the crappy build quality. Korean car makers are fantastic at loading their vehicles with cup holders and sunglasses clips, and all manner of cheap electronic gizmos, but they sure don't have a nice solid "thunk" when you shut the door, and the cheap fittings and economy paint job don't inspire confidence that this car will hold a decent resale value. It was definitely not on par with the likes of the Volkswagen Golf or other European hatches. Or the Japanese ones.

biggrin.gif Must say I love the "thunk".

#23 mrs

Posted 22 January 2013 - 07:23 AM

I have a Skoda yeti auto diesel with 2 car seats in back, haven't tried a 3rd person in middle yet.  They have the same engine as the Volkswagon Tiguan.

Edited by mrs, 22 January 2013 - 07:24 AM.


#24 2bundles

Posted 22 January 2013 - 07:55 AM

Get VW to change the idle on your car.  That will stop the stall and help with the lag.

I have a diesel golf. I don't notice the lag, but the Jetta is not made in the German factory.

Do people still get manual licences?  Will they in 10yrs time?  Will you still have the car then?  

I like the flat back seat in the golf. Much better for car seats and getting 3 seats across.

#25 dadwasathome

Posted 22 January 2013 - 08:01 AM

QUOTE (vanessa71 @ 22/01/2013, 07:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The next car I wanto to get is a VW CC, which would also fit your criteria, but I am reading that it is an 'automated manual' - is that all that is going to be available to me now?  sad.gif

No manual Vanessa - DSG - dual clutch automated manual, although you can get steering wheel "paddles" to shift gear. Same issue here with the alltrack we're looking at.




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users

 

Decluttering before Christmas: tips for managing the toy influx

Deciding how many toys you want to keep and enforcing a limit can help manage the sheer volume of playthings.

86-year-old taught himself to knit, now makes caps for premature babies

'Anything is possible if you put your mind to it' might just be the motto of 86 year-old retiree, Ed Moseley who despite his age and abilities has been gifting handmade knitted caps to premature babies.

Want healthy kids? Let them play in the mud, feed them allergenic foods - and get a dog

If you read about children's health, you've heard a lot of this before.

Photo captures mum's shock at delivery room surprise

Life can be full of surprises, but for this couple a surprise came in a very unexpected way.

Baby's family in law suit over RAAF base chemicals

A 10-month-old baby has been exposed to significant levels of toxic chemicals around a RAAF base near Newcastle, say his parents.

Childcare worker investigated after threatening toddler's mother

An early childhood teacher has been censured for serious misconduct after she threatened the mother of a young child.

Scottish baby names

Scotland, the wind and water-hewn land of the loch, the kilt and the heather. Bedecked in castles great and small, there are many Australians with Scottish heritage who could look to that fair country for baby name inspiration.

Do we need more parking spaces for parents?

The Give Me Space campaign is collecting stories from mums who have had difficult experiences while trying to find safe parking.

Gender neutral parenting: what it's really like

If you want to take a leaf out of Clare's book in gender neutral parenting, her advice is simple: "Follow the children's lead, and you can't go wrong."

The vital question no parent wants to think about

Since becoming a mother I sometimes wonder what would happen to my babies if their dad and I both died.

6 parents to stop judging right now

It's worth looking a little more closely at some common parenting missteps. Could it be these mums and dads are really just like you and me?

Ryan Reynolds shares delivery room tips for expectant dads

If your partner is heading to the delivery room any time soon, you've got to see Ryan Reynolds' video on dealing with the intricacies of the delivery room.

The trials and tribulations of teenage mums, 10 years later

Having her first baby at 16 was a shock for Simone Miller, but it's not something she regrets.

Grandma falls head over heels for baby - literally

Usually Valerie Sharp's plan to put her granddaughter into her cot works just fine, but when things go wrong it is hilarious.

My toddler wants all my attention all of the time - help!

This is a stage, and you and she will move through it. I can (almost) promise it.

Cotton On KIDS' cute new baby prewalker shoes

Oh watch out folks, Cotton On KIDS' baby range has just become even cuter with the release of its first ever prewalker shoe collection.

Why I love the superhero phase

My twins are heading towards three and have officially entered the superhero phase. It happened almost overnight.

I'm caught in a 'mumpetition' with my friend and I'm losing it

My best friend and I had children within a year of each other. She thinks her child is God's gift to the world.

A year of motherhood: my survival story

Motherhood burns you down, but it rebuilds you too.

Five traps to be aware of when reading IVF clinic websites

Clinics provide IVF success rates in often confusing ways because there is no agreed format on how this information should be presented.

 
Advertisement
 

Top 5 Articles

Advertisement
 
 
 

What's hot on EB

What pregnancy is really like: mums share their honest opinions

We asked real women what surprised them during their pregnancy. They've shared their experiences in the hope of preparing the rest of us better for the ride

The truth about big-headed babies

Research suggests that big headed babies become more intelligent than their smaller peers. One mum shares the positives and negatives of having a big headed baby.

How to encourage your baby's gross motor development skills

There are some everyday things that parents can do to improve gross motor skills and coordination.

'My baby's extra thumb saved her life'

A mum whose daughter was born with an extra thumb says that the extra digit saved her life.

He gave her his liver, she gave him her heart

Heather Krueger and Chris Dempsey's origin story began in a darker place than most: with stage 4 liver cancer.

Toilet training from birth? It is possible

This method, called elimination communication (EC or assisted infant toilet training), is becoming increasingly popular in the West.

Watch hilarious montage of strangest pregnancy questions on Yahoo Answers

Some of the strangest questions about pregnancy - and some of the most bizarre spelling - have made for a hilarious video.

How to reduce your chances of perineal tearing in birth

The use of heat packs, along with other aspects of clinical care, can reduce your risk of tearing in birth.

 

Baby Names

Unusual Celeb Baby Names

Click through the gallery to read the details and see some of the most memorable monikers in show biz families.

 
Advertisement
 
 
Essential Baby and Essential Kids is the place to find parenting information and parenting support relating to conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids, maternity, family budgeting, family travel, nutrition and wellbeing, family entertainment, kids entertainment, tips for the family home, child-friendly recipes and parenting. Try our pregnancy due date calculator to determine your due date, or our ovulation calculator to predict ovulation and your fertile period. Our pregnancy week by week guide shows your baby's stages of development. Access our very active mum's discussion groups in the Essential Baby forums or the Essential Kids forums to talk to mums about conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids and parenting lifestyle. Essential Baby also offers a baby names database of more than 22,000 baby names, popular baby names, boys' names, girls' names and baby names advice in our baby names forum. Essential Kids features a range of free printable worksheets for kids from preschool years through to primary school years. For the latest baby clothes, maternity clothes, maternity accessories, toddler products, kids toys and kids clothing, breastfeeding and other parenting resources, check out Essential Baby and Essential Kids.