Jump to content

Vacation Care...
What do you do?


  • Please log in to reply
21 replies to this topic

#1 *Lib*

Posted 21 January 2013 - 09:35 AM

I work full time, as does my husband. My sister and I work together, so one of us does drop off and one does pick up both during the school term, and during holidays.

As much as I'd love to take the school holidays off, I can't, so we rely on vacation care.

Its about $55 per day, and we get the 50% rebate. In total between us we have 3 kids.

The childcare center has been good, but lately the staff are complaining and leaving in drives so I would love an alternate idea. So what do you do?

Do you think a Nanny would be worth while? I thought of asking one of the daycare girls if they would be interested for $300 a child/week, but I guess they'll move on and get other jobs.

So help please!!!! I'd really like for them to get a chance to just hang on the school holidays, get up when they feel like it, just get some rest, but at the moment its just like a school term and the kids never seem to get a rest.

We tried the local PCYC, but they hated that. Some child lost it and the police had to be called after she started tearing at her sisters hair! ohmy.gif The children are terrified of going back there!

#2 Fr0g

Posted 21 January 2013 - 10:14 AM

Lib, we mix it up. A nanny would be good if you can find one just for hols.

When I don't have leave, I take a day off in the hols and become my own vacation care provider, in that I have a couple of kids over. I then have the favour returned on another day! I know some aren't comfortable asking, but I am and don't mind helping out/ bring helped out.

I also ask MIL to take the kids for one day.

I do use vac care for 2 days a week usually, based on activities the kids will enjoy (always excursion days).

DH also takes RDOs.

#3 MissingInAction

Posted 21 January 2013 - 10:34 AM

Staff leaving in droves from a CC service can mean one of two things, in my experience.

1.  They're all unhappy as they're not being treated well or they know something the parents don't (eg: the service is shutting down soon or losing families in droves and cutting back their hours, etc)

OR

2.  Their boss is trying to get them to try something new (ie; get with the times) and they don't like it, they're stuck in their old ways and don't want to change... so they'll leave.

Or i suppose, 3:  Maybe they're all students (seeing as it's vac care) and now they're either going back to uni, or have just graduated and will be requiring FT work.

Edited by MiaMoo86, 21 January 2013 - 10:34 AM.


#4 *Lib*

Posted 21 January 2013 - 11:05 AM

QUOTE (MiaMoo86 @ 21/01/2013, 10:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Staff leaving in droves from a CC service can mean one of two things, in my experience.

1.  They're all unhappy as they're not being treated well or they know something the parents don't (eg: the service is shutting down soon or losing families in droves and cutting back their hours, etc)

They have a new director, she's pretty strict on them I think. They really don't like her. The kids don't' seem affected by it, but I still would rather they get some down time instead of being rushed around on the holidays.

Unfortunately the nature of my job requires continuity so I can't just take a regular Monday off, or that would be perfect.

#5 -*meh*-

Posted 21 January 2013 - 11:18 AM

i use vacation care... i have no choice.

thankfully as a single parent i am on a high CCR so for the two boys it costs me about $10ish a day.

#6 IVL

Posted 21 January 2013 - 11:22 AM

I am not sure what hours you will require but if it is fulltime $300 is really on the low side. We pay our nanny $26 per hour but she is qualified, we then pay super, tax, insurance etc on top of that. We have her around 50 hours per week at the moment. Even for an unqualifed casual arrangement the lowest I have seen advertised has been about $18 per hour, that is usually for up to 3 children.

There are always loads of babysitters/nannies advertising on the find a babysitter website that are often uni students looking for some pocket money during the holidays, you may be lucky enough to find one that will be available for the longer term.

Good grief, your childrens experience as their last last PYC care sounds horrible. I can understand why they and you would be so reluctant to attend another. I hope an appropriate complaint was made and followed up.

#7 kpingitquiet

Posted 21 January 2013 - 11:29 AM

I think I'd probably go the university student route. I did a lot of teacher-workday/summer-vacation babysitting when I was higher up in high school and I also remember most of my babysitters being 12th grade or uni students on breaks. I imagine you might be able to find one who is working on ECE at school.

#8 Jane Jetson

Posted 21 January 2013 - 11:29 AM

We mix it up, we have to - the school's Vacation Care provider offers a grand total of four days out of this long holiday. DD1 is doing all four. My PIL have been a godsend and taken DD1 for a couple of days a week, I've worked from home a couple of days a week with her "helping" me, and occasionally DH will take her to work where she can watch movies for the day (not ideal). We also take some time off during holidays where we can, as we feel it's important for kids to get to mooch around the house doing nothing much.

Re this:

QUOTE
2. Their boss is trying to get them to try something new (ie; get with the times) and they don't like it, they're stuck in their old ways and don't want to change... so they'll leave.


We very much found this with our LDC a few years ago, about eight months after DD1 started there. A whole lot of people left, and we were worried, but it turned out that higher standards were being put into place. It went from good to fantastic. The good people stayed, though a few did leave recently when the new standards came in (they were great carers who were older and who had been doing it for years, but didn't want to get qualified).

#9 *Lib*

Posted 21 January 2013 - 11:33 AM

QUOTE (IVL @ 21/01/2013, 11:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am not sure what hours you will require but if it is fulltime $300 is really on the low side. We pay our nanny $26 per hour but she is qualified, we then pay super, tax, insurance etc on top of that. We have her around 50 hours per week at the moment. Even for an unqualifed casual arrangement the lowest I have seen advertised has been about $18 per hour, that is usually for up to 3 children.

There are always loads of babysitters/nannies advertising on the find a babysitter website that are often uni students looking for some pocket money during the holidays, you may be lucky enough to find one that will be available for the longer term.

Good grief, your childrens experience as their last last PYC care sounds horrible. I can understand why they and you would be so reluctant to attend another. I hope an appropriate complaint was made and followed up.


That would be $300 each, so $900 a week.

#10 *Lib*

Posted 21 January 2013 - 11:35 AM

QUOTE (Jane Jetson @ 21/01/2013, 11:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
We very much found this with our LDC a few years ago, about eight months after DD1 started there. A whole lot of people left, and we were worried, but it turned out that higher standards were being put into place. It went from good to fantastic. The good people stayed, though a few did leave recently when the new standards came in (they were great carers who were older and who had been doing it for years, but didn't want to get qualified).

Thats what I was thinking!! They could do with a tidy up and some more experienced carers, so I dont see it as definitely a bad thing!

#11 JRA

Posted 21 January 2013 - 11:39 AM

$900/week, plus super?. Is this only for the holidays?


IF only for the holidays, the daycare girls probably wont be interested as they probably need a full time job, not just holidays. A uni type student is more likely.

What hours are you expecting? 40hr week, so from 9-5?  Or do you need longer?  You are getting down to a cheap rate for a Nanny at that. Would you be doing super etc on top of that?

Good luck

#12 Julie3Girls

Posted 21 January 2013 - 11:40 AM

it's a hard juggle.
I only work part-time, so we only to manage care for a couple of days a week.

I do a combination of things ...
- annual leave day for me
- annual leave or RDO for my husband - he gets RDOs so he will often try and save up some for the school holiday period.
- grandparents .. thank god for grandparents!!
- juggling working hours - working fewer, longer days.

So far we have managed it, without needing to use vacation care. If I was full time working though, I think I would have to.

The nanny idea is great ... definitely a market there for it, maybe put up a notice asking for a uni student? Great way for a uni student to earn a bit of cash, even if it's only for part of the week?

In your position, you could also add your sister (and her husband?) into the mix - each of you taking a day a week of leave and having all of the kids. I know you said you can't manage a regular Monday off for example, but given the holiday dates are known, so plenty of notice, wouldn't you be able to arrange annual leave?
Even if between you, you only manage some of the days, it does mean a few days a home for the kids, and saves on vacation care.

I don't think some vacation care is a bad thing. It gets them up and doing things, most of the programs tend to be fun.

#13 MissingInAction

Posted 21 January 2013 - 11:40 AM

Sorry, I kinda went off on my own tangent when I replied before and forgot to actually answer the question!
I would put an ad in the local uni notices (targeting the education students) for someone to care for your kids over the holidays.  Or the local TAFE if you dn't have a uni nearby.  


#14 JRA

Posted 21 January 2013 - 11:41 AM

and remember you wont, or are very unlikely to get CCR for a Nanny in the above circumstances

#15 *Lib*

Posted 21 January 2013 - 11:44 AM

QUOTE (JRA @ 21/01/2013, 11:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
$900/week, plus super?. Is this only for the holidays?


IF only for the holidays, the daycare girls probably wont be interested as they probably need a full time job, not just holidays. A uni type student is more likely.

What hours are you expecting? 40hr week, so from 9-5?  Or do you need longer?  You are getting down to a cheap rate for a Nanny at that. Would you be doing super etc on top of that?

Good luck


Probably 8-4 for 3 kids (7, 8 & 8) I did think the day care chicks would want more regular work than that, thats why I thought a Nanny?

QUOTE (Julie3Girls @ 21/01/2013, 11:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
it's a hard juggle.
I only work part-time, so we only to manage care for a couple of days a week.

I do a combination of things ...
- annual leave day for me
- annual leave or RDO for my husband - he gets RDOs so he will often try and save up some for the school holiday period.
- grandparents .. thank god for grandparents!!
- juggling working hours - working fewer, longer days.

So far we have managed it, without needing to use vacation care. If I was full time working though, I think I would have to.

The nanny idea is great ... definitely a market there for it, maybe put up a notice asking for a uni student? Great way for a uni student to earn a bit of cash, even if it's only for part of the week?

In your position, you could also add your sister (and her husband?) into the mix - each of you taking a day a week of leave and having all of the kids. I know you said you can't manage a regular Monday off for example, but given the holiday dates are known, so plenty of notice, wouldn't you be able to arrange annual leave?
Even if between you, you only manage some of the days, it does mean a few days a home for the kids, and saves on vacation care.

I don't think some vacation care is a bad thing. It gets them up and doing things, most of the programs tend to be fun.

Its not because I can't get the time off, its because of the business I am in, the clients I deal with need the continuity of dealing with the same person from woe to go.

I think vacation care is great, it just leaves them so exhausted by the end! This time they haven't been on nearly as many excursions, my sister and I had a week off each and kept them with us for the 2 weeks, so they've only been in for 6 of the 8 weeks, but they are just so drained sad.gif


#16 JRA

Posted 21 January 2013 - 11:47 AM

I can understand that about holiday program. I look at the program for our school and wonder "but surely they kids need a break".

I would try uni/tafe, given your further clarification. Often a Nanny is wanting something more permanent.

Are there any uni students at your sporting club that you could approach.

#17 fooiesmum

Posted 21 January 2013 - 11:47 AM

I have 1 DD - she loves dancing, and her dance school have a week long holiday program each holidays, it's started today & is 09:00 > 15:00 for 5 days, maybe if your little ones are into a sport there are similar camps available?

With your sister & you together, is it possible for one to start early and collect the kids and the other to finish late and have them in the morning and try and do something little each day? Early morning swim, then into the office by 10:00 etc?

One of the teachers at dance school child minds, she has her cert 4, first aid cert etc - she's keen for work whilst the school has been closed over the holidays so she's had my DD on a Wednesday - from 09:00 > 17:00, they go out and do things together and I've been working from home.  

State sport & rec will have camps etc - does that help at all???? original.gif

#18 Banana Pancakes

Posted 21 January 2013 - 11:56 AM

$900 a week is probably similar to what many employees would get in a centre as a untrained person so I think many people would jump at the opportunity. Especially seeing its a ratio to 1:3 children not 1:15.

I found a great babysitter via gumtree. I thoroughly checked out her references and her first aid and she has been wonderful. The kids adore her and she has proven to be very reliable.

In your situation I would aim to get a babysitter 3 days a week and then 2 days at vacation care just to break the week up a bit.

#19 Julie3Girls

Posted 21 January 2013 - 12:09 PM

QUOTE
Its not because I can't get the time off, its because of the business I am in, the clients I deal with need the continuity of dealing with the same person from woe to go.

I think vacation care is great, it just leaves them so exhausted by the end! This time they haven't been on nearly as many excursions, my sister and I had a week off each and kept them with us for the 2 weeks, so they've only been in for 6 of the 8 weeks, but they are just so drained

Maybe rather than taking a whole week in one go, you could arrange to take just the one day during the week. Not sure what sort of business you are in, but surely your clients should be able to cope with you having an individual day off?  Then your sister does the same.
And make sure you include your husbands in this as well - you said you and your sister both took a week off to look after the kids - did the dad's take time off?

Anyway, so instead of 5 days in one week, you take one day a week over the 5 weeks. And it breaks up the week for the kids. They are still going to vacation care, but not that solid every day of the week.  Breaks up the routine, makes it more relaxed.

Listen to parents who have their kids at home full time during the holidays, and you usually hear them trying to work out what to do to entertain the kids - I know I will have a couple of days at home, and then we'll go out and do something to get them busy and active and stop them from being bored at home.

#20 *Lib*

Posted 21 January 2013 - 12:14 PM

QUOTE (Julie3Girls @ 21/01/2013, 12:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Maybe rather than taking a whole week in one go, you could arrange to take just the one day during the week. Not sure what sort of business you are in, but surely your clients should be able to cope with you having an individual day off? ?

I'm a funeral director, so we like to offer the continuity, so that the families that we are dealing with don't need to swap staff, they deal with the same person for the duration.

Thank you for all of the suggestions, its certainly food for thought! I will do some searching of camps and activities for the next holidays and see how we go! Thanks!

#21 YodaTheWrinkledOne

Posted 21 January 2013 - 01:28 PM

QUOTE (Banana Pancakes @ 21/01/2013, 11:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
In your situation I would aim to get a babysitter 3 days a week and then 2 days at vacation care just to break the week up a bit.

I think this is a great suggestion for your circumstances *Lib* and something worth investigating.

First time I have used vacation care this month and I have been very pleasantly surprised.  Each week, there is one day where there is an excursion for all kids, one day where there is an excursion for a subgroup of kids (eg. today is Kinder-Y2 kids going to a movie, other kids stay behind - I think they are planning a treasure hunt for tomorrow), a "chill out day" and an "active day".  DD1 loves it!

#22 libbylu

Posted 21 January 2013 - 01:36 PM

I mix it up too.  A couple of days in the school holiday program, a couple of day swaps with friends, a couple of days with grandma and a couple of days at home with either DH or myself, and then we have it covered.

If yourself, you sister, her husband and your husband each took just one day off each during each school holidays then you would have four days covered.  Then you could hire a nanny for two days per week or something.




1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users

 

Teaching our son to say no to violence against women

Today, on White Ribbon Day - and every other day - we're teaching our son to say no to violence against women.

Mothers told to breastfeed in 'spacious' toilet

If there is one thing the owners of Tillings Cafe can be certain of, it is that the eatery won't win the award for Britain's best baby-friendly coffee shop any time soon.

Mother gives name to son dumped down drain

A woman who admitted to dumping her newborn baby down a Sydney drain has reportedly been allowed to give him a name.

Taking small steps to reduce stress

Are you feeling used up by life's stress, family problems and a demanding job you can't turn off? Many people are way beyond work-life exhaustion. They are functioning as robots.

Bad news: we're running out of chocolate

The world's biggest chocolate-maker says we're running out of chocolate.

Born at 23 weeks, 'Chopstick Baby' survives first week

A baby who was born at 23 weeks has survived her first week of life outside the womb.

Manic stations: the nesting instinct in pregnancy

It might sound like temporary insanity, but almost obsessive nesting as you near your due date isn’t uncommon – even if you’re not usually a particularly clean person.

How a baby can survive alone for days on end

The baby found abandoned in a Sydney drain may have been alone for up to six days without being fed, leaving many asking how he could have survived.

When it begins to look a lot like Christmas

A child's excitement at Christmas time is a beautiful thing, but one dad ponders whether his toddler daughter is getting into the festive mood a bit too soon.

Hospital lets dads the experience some of the pain of childbirth

A new experience is radically altering men's views of childbirth.

Italian doctors questioned over formula bribes

Italian police have placed 12 doctors under house arrest on suspicion of promoting baby milk formula over breastfeeding.

Heartwarming prank gives single mum the house she was hired to clean

Cara Simmons arrived at work to clean a large and beautiful house in time for a party planned for that evening. It was soon hers.

Those special moments of sibling bonding

Every now and then your child does or says something that is truly memorable.

Why we should stop telling new parents to 'enjoy every moment'

A few weeks ago, some dear friends of mine had their first baby. As the proud dad texted me a picture I had to fight the natural instinct to say “Enjoy every moment!”

Baby monitor footage posted online

Footage of Australian babies and children sleeping in their bedrooms are among the images on a Russian site showing live feeds from thousands of homes and businesses around the world.

Did this new dad really hit on his wife's midwife?

Was there really a man who was actually there by his wife’s side as she laboured and gave birth to his child, all while he was making what he perceived to be meaningful eye contact with a midwife?

Keep calm and ignore the Tantrum Trolls

Tantrum Trolls are a small but growing species of predatory bottom-feeders who delight in picking on parents at their most vulnerable.

It's okay to never 'get over' the death of a loved one

The death of children, siblings, and parents has long term impacts on the rest of our lives.

What Mark Latham needs to know about depression and motherhood

Love has nothing to do with mental illness. But love may drive a mother to do something about it.

'We're just trying to keep our child alive': life with FPIES

We have a beautiful seven-month-old son, and his allergy rules our life.

Transgender dad breastfeeds his babies

A transgender man who breastfed his first baby - despite having his breasts removed as part of his transformation from female to male - has now had a second child.

Couple face $1 million medical bill and bankruptcy after babymoon birth

A Canadian couple were slammed with a million dollar medical bill after their daughter was prematurely during their babymoon.

Cigarettes, junk food dominate supermarket sales growth

One in every five dollars spent at supermarkets goes on cigarettes or junk food, according to industry data.

Teacher under fire for breastfeeding in class

There is no doubt mums have a right to continue breastfeeding after they have returned to work, but one teacher in the US has taken it to the extreme.

Win a family pass to Disney Live!

We have 4 family passes to give away to see Disney Live! presents Three Classic Fairy Tales, touring Australia this December/January.

Download now: Essential Kids Activity Finder app

Got bored kids? Quickly find the best activities for kids wherever you are in Australia with the Essential Kids app.

 
Advertisement
 
Advertisement
 
 
 

What's hot on EB

Join PADDINGTON on the red carpet!

To celebrate the release of PADDINGTON, we are giving five lucky winners the chance to win a family pass to the exclusive Australian Premiere in Sydney on December 7!

The tragedy of losing a favourite teddy bear

We were green and uninitiated, perhaps a little naïve when it came to the favourite toy responsibility.

Video: Baby sniffs beardless dad to make sure it's him

She looks him up and down and then touches his chin, but baby Lindsey still isn't sure this clean-shaven man is her dad.

It's possible to workout while pregnant

Medical experts say intense fitness routines can be done safely during pregnancy - if the mums-to-be follow some guidelines.

What parents really want for their kids

Are our hopes, dreams and expectations for our children what they really need?

'I had a feeling something was seriously wrong'

Before even giving birth, Katie Myers' maternal instincts warned her something was wrong with her baby.

When your pregnancy causes a relationship rift

Some dads-to-be don't miss a beat when their partner is pregnant; others struggle with a range of issues and can become withdrawn, right when their support is needed most.

Couple uses group photo trick to announce pregnancy to loved ones

Katharine and Kris Camilli devised a clever trick to immortalise their family and friends' reactions to their exciting pregnancy news.

Why Tracey Spicer has given up make-up

"After 30 years on television, I had become what I despised: a painted doll who spent an hour a day and close to $200 a week putting on a mask."

Knowing you are one of the lucky ones

I am secure, confident and strong, but the responsibility of protecting my children can almost bring me undone.

Why I am so emotional now I have kids?

There are so many ways in which parenthood changes us as women, but one of the most noticeable, for me, has been the changing state of my emotions.

Baby survives despite sharing womb with 'foreign body'

Baby Maia was conceived against the odds, only to find she was sharing a womb with an ominous "foreign body".

Video: Baby shows dog how to jump - or vice versa

They say dog is man's best friend, but this playful pooch seems to have chosen a jumping baby as her number one buddy.

10 ways to soothe a crying baby

New paernts can get frustrated when their newborn gets fussy and can't settle down. When you're feeling overwhelmed, try some of these simple tips to help soothe your baby.

20 baby names that are becoming more popular every year

The data-lovers at nameberry.com have been at it again – this time, they’ve discovered the names that are continually rising up the ranks, ready to take out some top spots in the next few years.

10 great meals to make for new parents

Ideally, you want to give food that isn’t expensive to make, isn't too difficult to create, and freezes well; stews, bakes, soups and pasta sauces are perfect.

Weird pregnancy products

Some pregnancy products come to market and are just awesome. Others just leave you scratching your head.

Carers admit to force-feeding children

Christa Engles was changing her baby's nappy when tragedy struck.

 

How many weeks til Christmas?

On your To-Do list

Get the "Santa" shopping done without the kids in tow.

 
Advertisement
 
 
Essential Baby and Essential Kids is the place to find parenting information and parenting support relating to conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids, maternity, family budgeting, family travel, nutrition and wellbeing, family entertainment, kids entertainment, tips for the family home, child-friendly recipes and parenting. Try our pregnancy due date calculator to determine your due date, or our ovulation calculator to predict ovulation and your fertile period. Our pregnancy week by week guide shows your baby's stages of development. Access our very active mum's discussion groups in the Essential Baby forums or the Essential Kids forums to talk to mums about conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids and parenting lifestyle. Essential Baby also offers a baby names database of more than 22,000 baby names, popular baby names, boys' names, girls' names and baby names advice in our baby names forum. Essential Kids features a range of free printable worksheets for kids from preschool years through to primary school years. For the latest baby clothes, maternity clothes, maternity accessories, toddler products, kids toys and kids clothing, breastfeeding and other parenting resources, check out Essential Baby and Essential Kids.