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Good or another sleep crutch?


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#1 Lorem ipsum

Posted 20 January 2013 - 05:04 PM

After a disastrous attempt to wrap DS (15 weeks) with one arm out of his wrap yesterday I am looking at getting the SafeTsleep, as it looks like he will be rolling soon.

Is it worth getting or is it something that is going to be another sleep crutch that he will have to be weaned off later? Or am I better off waiting a few weeks and attempting the one arm out thing again?

Thanks

#2 Riotproof

Posted 20 January 2013 - 05:12 PM

Why are you trying to wean the wrap right now?  

I don't know much about the safetsleep, tbh, it doesn't seem safe to me at all.

#3 niggles

Posted 20 January 2013 - 05:12 PM

I looked into this at one stage and it seems you can use it for quite some time. Even for a toddler in a bed. Of course that's as long as your child likes being in it. It's obviously not intended as a restraint and so if the child doesn't like it, it's an expensive waste of time.

That said, I've had issues with both my kids weaning off the wrap and so I would consider using one for future children, starting with it while still wrapped so it becomes part of the routine and they don't develop the habit of moving around in the cot in their sleep.

I wouldn't call anything a sleep crutch and I wouldn't be worried about weaning off. You can wean a child off anything when you are both ready. If it's doing no harm and it's helping them sleep I'd call it an excellent sleep aid.

#4 No-pants Agnodice

Posted 20 January 2013 - 05:15 PM

Why are you trying to solve a problem that hasn't happened yet.

By the time your baby can roll in a wrapped position, they can usually also get their arms out. It's quite hard to roll wrapped - babies roll in sleep later than they roll when awake.

Also the safe t sleep doesn't stop them rolling. My first could roll even with the crotch strap (which ultimately I cut off)


What the safe t sleep IS good for is limiting them sitting and standing when you put them to bed (both mine could still stand with the thing around them, it just requires more persistence). It also is meant to feel secure, like a 'hug'.

Both mine have slept brilliantly with it, and 'weaning' wasn't an issue. We actually used it until, oh, 18 months or so? But probably could have for rid of it sooner.

#5 twinboys

Posted 20 January 2013 - 05:17 PM

I used them and they were a great way to keep a baby lying down and not rolling and crawling all over the cot.
We also used them instead of portacots when we went away as they can go around a single bed mattress

#6 No-pants Agnodice

Posted 20 January 2013 - 05:19 PM

QUOTE (Riotproof @ 20/01/2013, 06:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why are you trying to wean the wrap right now?  

I don't know much about the safetsleep, tbh, it doesn't seem safe to me at all.


What strikes you as unsafe?

Personally, we quite like it. My first got it at six months as part of 'sleep training' as he was a shocking sleeper and slept through 12 hours a night from six months; my second has it from about 8-10 weeks, and slept through almost immediately (went back to a single night feed at four months and spontaneously dropped that at 6.5 months, and slept 12 hours a night from 6.5 months).

It can't get around their neck, and i can't see any other issue with it.

#7 Lorem ipsum

Posted 20 January 2013 - 05:25 PM

QUOTE (AvadaKedavra @ 20/01/2013, 06:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why are you trying to solve a problem that hasn't happened yet.


Mchn mentioned that  you should stop wrapping when they start rolling. I wasn't aware that it didn't stop rolling.  I guess it would keep them in the middle of the bed., stopping him getting stuck in the edges and suffocating?



#8 No-pants Agnodice

Posted 20 January 2013 - 05:29 PM

QUOTE (Lorem ipsum @ 20/01/2013, 06:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Mchn mentioned that  you should stop wrapping when they start rolling. I wasn't aware that it didn't stop rolling.  I guess it would keep them in the middle of the bed., stopping him getting stuck in the edges and suffocating?


My point is only that you may get have months before your baby rolls from back to front (my first did that at 4 months, my second at 6.5), and that it takes even longer to rolls while wrapped.

My first was wrapped with hands by his sides with a 'miracle wrap' and could get his arms out by the time he could roll.

My second was wrapped arms up in a 'love to dream' and could actually push his head up easily and roll back to front in it.

So wait until bub actually starts to roll before you decide if you need to unwrap or not.

All this aside, I DO like the safe t sleep and would recommend it to anyone. I used both wrap and safe t sleep concurrently for both of mine.

#9 Lorem ipsum

Posted 20 January 2013 - 05:38 PM

Thanks AK

I understand your point, I guess I am being hyper sensitive to the  SIDS risks



#10 Riotproof

Posted 20 January 2013 - 05:51 PM

QUOTE (AvadaKedavra @ 20/01/2013, 06:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What strikes you as unsafe?

Personally, we quite like it. My first got it at six months as part of 'sleep training' as he was a shocking sleeper and slept through 12 hours a night from six months; my second has it from about 8-10 weeks, and slept through almost immediately (went back to a single night feed at four months and spontaneously dropped that at 6.5 months, and slept 12 hours a night from 6.5 months).

It can't get around their neck, and i can't see any other issue with it.

I don't know, it just feels like adding something unnecessary. Looking at the how to use instructions on the website, they appear be supporting side sleeping as well. http://www.safetsleep.com/easy-to-use-instructions/ step 5

#11 lucky 2

Posted 20 January 2013 - 09:20 PM

It looks like a product that would be unnecessary in normal circumstances, no specific product is endorsed by SIDs and KIDS.
The SIDs and KIDs wrapping brochure is below with its recommendations I presume would be based on current knowledge about sleep safety.
http://www.sidsandkids.org/wp-content/uplo...12LRsingles.pdf
I'd probably wait a bit and try one arm out again in a few weeks.
I got one of dd's arms out when she started to fight the wrap (around 3 months of age). I cant say it was fun but we got there. Then the second arm came out around 5 months, that was easy so I wasted time worrying and avoiding getting that one out. Then wrapped lower body and eventually a sleeping bag.
All the best.




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