Jump to content

SafeTsleep
Good or another sleep crutch?


  • Please log in to reply
10 replies to this topic

#1 Lorem ipsum

Posted 20 January 2013 - 05:04 PM

After a disastrous attempt to wrap DS (15 weeks) with one arm out of his wrap yesterday I am looking at getting the SafeTsleep, as it looks like he will be rolling soon.

Is it worth getting or is it something that is going to be another sleep crutch that he will have to be weaned off later? Or am I better off waiting a few weeks and attempting the one arm out thing again?

Thanks

#2 Riotproof

Posted 20 January 2013 - 05:12 PM

Why are you trying to wean the wrap right now?  

I don't know much about the safetsleep, tbh, it doesn't seem safe to me at all.

#3 niggles

Posted 20 January 2013 - 05:12 PM

I looked into this at one stage and it seems you can use it for quite some time. Even for a toddler in a bed. Of course that's as long as your child likes being in it. It's obviously not intended as a restraint and so if the child doesn't like it, it's an expensive waste of time.

That said, I've had issues with both my kids weaning off the wrap and so I would consider using one for future children, starting with it while still wrapped so it becomes part of the routine and they don't develop the habit of moving around in the cot in their sleep.

I wouldn't call anything a sleep crutch and I wouldn't be worried about weaning off. You can wean a child off anything when you are both ready. If it's doing no harm and it's helping them sleep I'd call it an excellent sleep aid.

#4 Fright bat

Posted 20 January 2013 - 05:15 PM

Why are you trying to solve a problem that hasn't happened yet.

By the time your baby can roll in a wrapped position, they can usually also get their arms out. It's quite hard to roll wrapped - babies roll in sleep later than they roll when awake.

Also the safe t sleep doesn't stop them rolling. My first could roll even with the crotch strap (which ultimately I cut off)


What the safe t sleep IS good for is limiting them sitting and standing when you put them to bed (both mine could still stand with the thing around them, it just requires more persistence). It also is meant to feel secure, like a 'hug'.

Both mine have slept brilliantly with it, and 'weaning' wasn't an issue. We actually used it until, oh, 18 months or so? But probably could have for rid of it sooner.

#5 twinboys

Posted 20 January 2013 - 05:17 PM

I used them and they were a great way to keep a baby lying down and not rolling and crawling all over the cot.
We also used them instead of portacots when we went away as they can go around a single bed mattress

#6 Fright bat

Posted 20 January 2013 - 05:19 PM

QUOTE (Riotproof @ 20/01/2013, 06:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why are you trying to wean the wrap right now?  

I don't know much about the safetsleep, tbh, it doesn't seem safe to me at all.


What strikes you as unsafe?

Personally, we quite like it. My first got it at six months as part of 'sleep training' as he was a shocking sleeper and slept through 12 hours a night from six months; my second has it from about 8-10 weeks, and slept through almost immediately (went back to a single night feed at four months and spontaneously dropped that at 6.5 months, and slept 12 hours a night from 6.5 months).

It can't get around their neck, and i can't see any other issue with it.

#7 Lorem ipsum

Posted 20 January 2013 - 05:25 PM

QUOTE (AvadaKedavra @ 20/01/2013, 06:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Why are you trying to solve a problem that hasn't happened yet.


Mchn mentioned that  you should stop wrapping when they start rolling. I wasn't aware that it didn't stop rolling.  I guess it would keep them in the middle of the bed., stopping him getting stuck in the edges and suffocating?



#8 Fright bat

Posted 20 January 2013 - 05:29 PM

QUOTE (Lorem ipsum @ 20/01/2013, 06:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Mchn mentioned that  you should stop wrapping when they start rolling. I wasn't aware that it didn't stop rolling.  I guess it would keep them in the middle of the bed., stopping him getting stuck in the edges and suffocating?


My point is only that you may get have months before your baby rolls from back to front (my first did that at 4 months, my second at 6.5), and that it takes even longer to rolls while wrapped.

My first was wrapped with hands by his sides with a 'miracle wrap' and could get his arms out by the time he could roll.

My second was wrapped arms up in a 'love to dream' and could actually push his head up easily and roll back to front in it.

So wait until bub actually starts to roll before you decide if you need to unwrap or not.

All this aside, I DO like the safe t sleep and would recommend it to anyone. I used both wrap and safe t sleep concurrently for both of mine.

#9 Lorem ipsum

Posted 20 January 2013 - 05:38 PM

Thanks AK

I understand your point, I guess I am being hyper sensitive to the  SIDS risks



#10 Riotproof

Posted 20 January 2013 - 05:51 PM

QUOTE (AvadaKedavra @ 20/01/2013, 06:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
What strikes you as unsafe?

Personally, we quite like it. My first got it at six months as part of 'sleep training' as he was a shocking sleeper and slept through 12 hours a night from six months; my second has it from about 8-10 weeks, and slept through almost immediately (went back to a single night feed at four months and spontaneously dropped that at 6.5 months, and slept 12 hours a night from 6.5 months).

It can't get around their neck, and i can't see any other issue with it.

I don't know, it just feels like adding something unnecessary. Looking at the how to use instructions on the website, they appear be supporting side sleeping as well. http://www.safetsleep.com/easy-to-use-instructions/ step 5

#11 lucky 2

Posted 20 January 2013 - 09:20 PM

It looks like a product that would be unnecessary in normal circumstances, no specific product is endorsed by SIDs and KIDS.
The SIDs and KIDs wrapping brochure is below with its recommendations I presume would be based on current knowledge about sleep safety.
http://www.sidsandkids.org/wp-content/uplo...12LRsingles.pdf
I'd probably wait a bit and try one arm out again in a few weeks.
I got one of dd's arms out when she started to fight the wrap (around 3 months of age). I cant say it was fun but we got there. Then the second arm came out around 5 months, that was easy so I wasted time worrying and avoiding getting that one out. Then wrapped lower body and eventually a sleeping bag.
All the best.




2 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 2 guests, 0 anonymous users

 

Tell us what you think

to WIN 1 of 2 $500 Coles/Myer gift cards

Dealing with a toddler's morning tantrums

Your schedule is not important to your two-year-old, and you cannot convince her otherwise. So what can you do?

Child in suitcase 'could have died eight years ago'

A child whose remains were dumped in a suitcase in the South Australian bush is believed to have been a girl aged between two-and-a-half to four.

MP breastfeeds baby during parliamentary session

An Argentinian mum and politician has caused a stir on social media after being filmed breastfeeding her baby.

My baby's first seizure

It was 1am on a cold winter's night when I woke suddenly to the screams of my 12-month-old son. Our lives were about to change forever.

Portable pools 'more dangerous than permanent ones'

Inflatable and portable children's pools may be required to be sold with compulsory fencing to prevent backyard drownings, with some experts even floating the idea of a ban.

Heartbreaking moment mum kisses her one-week-old goodbye

At 11.07am on April 2 this year, Sarah Marriott welcomed baby Sebastian into the world.

The amazing Tee Pee bed and kid-friendly Frankie Bunk bed

These kids' beds definitely fit the brief of providing personality and personal space for little people who are moving up in the world.

The funny things kids say when you're pregnant

Since becoming noticeably pregnant, my son has taken more of an interest in the sibling he'll soon have.

The real problem with having one child

In this age of political correctness, it seems the one subject still subject to discrimination is that of the Only Child.

Six-week-old baby found dead, believed stabbed

A neighbour heard a child screaming before a baby was found dead, believed to have been stabbed, in a house in Newcastle.

The fire hazard in more than 70,000 Australian homes

So far, 206 Samsung washing machines have caught fire and some have exploded. But many remain in people's homes.

How having a baby can bring on OCD

We all know that having a baby can turn your life upside down - and it can also bring a raft of new anxieties and worries.

IVF gender selection being considered for Australian parents

Couples using IVF may be able to choose the gender of their babies and women could be financially compensated for donating their eggs.

The best age to get married (according to the latest study)

Not too young, and not too old. That's reportedly the best age to get married. Not everyone agrees.

Yes, you can get pregnant before your period returns post-baby

After giving birth, the last thing you want to think about is contraception. But you can get pregnant before your period comes back.

Fellow diner rewards mum after toddler's tantrum

Parents of toddlers everywhere know the feeling. After working up the courage to take your child out for lunch or dinner in public you are rewarded with a mid-meal meltdown. 

IKEA begins massive safety campaign after two toddler deaths

Two children were killed when pieces from their Malm furniture line tipped over.

Beaneasy: sweet nursery furniture with a twist

If you're looking to introduce an organic element into your baby's nursery but want to step away from natural timber, we have the perfect alternative.

A dad's guide to hyperemesis

I am in no way qualified to advise women on how to cope with hyperemesis, but I've learnt some lessons that might be worth sharing with other partners.

Woman adopts best friend's four daughters after cancer tragedy

Best friends share everything - and for these two life-long friends, that includes family.

Baby Leo's mum excluded from $500K trust 'for her own protection'

Samuel Forrest didn't want his wife as a trustee of their baby Leo's half million dollar trust for her own "protection", it has emerged.

Confirmed: men gain weight when they become dads

Men who become fathers experience weight gain and an increase in body mass index, a measurement of body fat based on height and weight, according to a new, large-scale study

Carer investigated over washing machine photo posted 'for a laugh'

She said the photo of a boy with Down syndrome in a washing machine was taken just for fun, but no one else was laughing.

Mum's premature labour nightmare after high tea salmonella outbreak

An opulent high tea at a luxury Melbourne hotel has left 44 people with salmonella poisoning - including a pregnant woman, who went into early labour.

The day my son started a fire

Would you know what to do in a fire emergency? How safe is your home and family?

Prince George celebrates second birthday

Prince George's second birthday has been marked by the release of an official picture showing the toddler smiling as he is held by his proud beaming father.

Which beauty treatments are safe in pregnancy?

Is it safe to use fake tan, hair dye and nail varnish during pregnancy?

The five ways I know my 'baby' is no longer a baby

The truth is, I can no longer deny that my walking, babbling, somewhat-independent little miss is no longer a bona fide 'baby'.

Review: Cybex Platinum PRIAM pram

I'm not usually one who believes in love at first sight but that's exactly what happened when I first saw the Cybex PRIAM.

Get your FREE Baby & Toddler Show ticket!

Get your free ticket to the Sydney Essential Baby & Toddler Show for September 25-27 - register online now.

 
Advertisement
 
Advertisement
 
 
 

What's hot on EB

Tell us what you think

to WIN 1 of 2 $500 Coles/Myer gift cards

Why I'm choosing to be a single mother right from the start

I believe that you get out of families what you put into them, and I will give mine my all.

Mother and baby units are a necessity for mental health, not a luxury

I have had two postnatal psychotic episodes. The first when my eldest child was six weeks old, and another after my second child was born.

30 French baby names

French names are always in fashion, but a few have risen in popularity in recent years.

New mum's Spanish maternity nightmare

A British woman who gave birth in Spain has told of her ordeal after spending weeks trying to convince medics the baby girl was hers.

Preparing Rover to be a good dog with baby

Some friends of ours say that it's dangerous to have a dog around a newborn and that we should start looking for a new home for him. Is it?

Company offers to ship working mums' breast milk home

First Apple and Facebook announced they would pay $20,000 towards the cost of their female employees freezing their eggs, now IBM in the US has come up with an innovative new policy aimed at retaining female employees.

Prince William speaks of his pride at wife Kate and 'little joy of heaven' Charlotte

The Duke of Cambridge opened up about family life and his plans for the future in an interview to mark his first day as an air ambulance pilot.

'Glowing' eye saves baby Mason's life

A simple photo taken in front of an evening fire gave new mother Sarah Bowers the power to save her baby's life. 

Parenting and decision overload

Of all the advice people told me before having a baby, no one warned me about the amount of decisions involved.

Proof that toddlers can't be left unsupervised - ever

Parents of toddlers all know the moment when realise your child is being suspiciously quiet. It can only mean one thing - trouble!

Meet Jeremy Ryan, The Voice contestant with seven kids

If you have trouble recalling the ages of Jeremy Ryan's seven children on The Voice, you're not alone. So does he.

Baby's adorable reaction to wearing glasses for the first time

Getting glasses can be a formative moment in a person's life.

Police officer buys supplies for family after mum of six caught shoplifting

When a mum of six was caught shoplifting nappies, clothes and shoes for her kids, the last thing she expected was for a stranger to pay for her haul.

Why pregnant women on antidepressants shouldn’t panic about birth defect claims

The risk of having uncontrolled depression is far greater than the small increased risk of birth defects that may be associated with specific antidepressants.

Arrests made over children's birthday party brawl

Police have raided properties and arrested a number of people over a brawl at a child's birthday party at a play centre in Sydney's west.

Family shares awesome drone baby announcement

Looking for a creative way to share some big news? Look to the skies, like this family did.

Young warrior Owen defies doctors' predictions

Little Owen DiCandilo's name means "young warrior", and it's a description that perfectly fits the inspiring 18-month-old

Advice for dads: when to approach your wife for sex

The exhaustion that comes with caring for young children often means romance between parents becomes a thing of the past.

I might be fat, but I don't need saving

I've been fat for pretty much most of life, besides a few crazy moments of being less-fat, but for the most part I've existed on this earth with a little more meat on my bones than desirable.

The rookie mistakes we make as parents

Since the dawn of civilisation, generation after generation of new parents have had to rely on instinct, trial and error - and sometimes get it wrong.

 

FREE TICKET

See Pinky McKay live in Sydney

Get your free ticket to The Essential Baby & Toddler Show and save $20 - register online now!

 
Advertisement
 
 
Essential Baby and Essential Kids is the place to find parenting information and parenting support relating to conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids, maternity, family budgeting, family travel, nutrition and wellbeing, family entertainment, kids entertainment, tips for the family home, child-friendly recipes and parenting. Try our pregnancy due date calculator to determine your due date, or our ovulation calculator to predict ovulation and your fertile period. Our pregnancy week by week guide shows your baby's stages of development. Access our very active mum's discussion groups in the Essential Baby forums or the Essential Kids forums to talk to mums about conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids and parenting lifestyle. Essential Baby also offers a baby names database of more than 22,000 baby names, popular baby names, boys' names, girls' names and baby names advice in our baby names forum. Essential Kids features a range of free printable worksheets for kids from preschool years through to primary school years. For the latest baby clothes, maternity clothes, maternity accessories, toddler products, kids toys and kids clothing, breastfeeding and other parenting resources, check out Essential Baby and Essential Kids.