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#1 FiveAus

Posted 17 January 2013 - 05:19 PM

I hate seeing ads like this, a beautiful and valuable pet being discarded like it's yesterdays news. Wondered if you know a group who might be interested in responsibly rehoming her for the owners.

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/eltham/dogs...ound/1012542829

#2 Guest_Dinah_Harris_*

Posted 17 January 2013 - 05:23 PM

sad.gif What a beautiful dog.   Two years and then dumped?    That makes me really mad mad.gif


#3 MrsLexiK

Posted 17 January 2013 - 05:28 PM

Nawww what a cutie! I got my boy because the owners were moving and he bolts (and kills chicken if you have any hence why the chicken farmers got rid of him) I did feel sorry for these owners as they were moving to a main road and her kids used to just let him out (they were young) and she was worried he would get killed.

#4 beaglebaby

Posted 17 January 2013 - 05:28 PM

At least she is sterilised so won't have already been snapped up by a puppy farm mad.gif

#5 Feral*Spikey*

Posted 17 January 2013 - 05:33 PM

I will finish swearing a LOT, and then pass on the links to the breeders I know. I'm not sure why they haven't asked the breeder to assist with rehoming.

God I hate people sometimes. "Downsizing". We had our first elkhound in an inner city terrace. Its not really an issue. Bet they haven't trained her. mad.gif

#6 FiveAus

Posted 17 January 2013 - 05:35 PM

QUOTE
At least she is sterilised so won't have already been snapped up by a puppy farm


Yes that's true, although I doubt if Norwegian Elkhounds are puppy farm material.

They are a rare breed and often the breeder will request the dog be returned to them if the owner can't keep it. And often a breed club or group will know of people waiting for one to come up, and not everyone wants a puppy.

She's a lovely girl.

Edited by FiveAus, 17 January 2013 - 05:37 PM.


#7 FiveAus

Posted 17 January 2013 - 05:37 PM

Judging by the background and the stance, she looks like she's been shown.

#8 Feral*Spikey*

Posted 17 January 2013 - 05:55 PM

That's what I was thinking. Bet she isn't in that condition now. sad.gif

If I get a response, I may ask my brother if he'd hang onto her for a day or so while we get organised. I can't really fit another dog in here, but would hate for her to be dumped or worse.

#9 FeralRebelWClaws

Posted 17 January 2013 - 05:58 PM

QUOTE (*Spikey* @ 17/01/2013, 06:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
God I hate people sometimes. "Downsizing". We had our first elkhound in an inner city terrace. Its not really an issue. Bet they haven't trained her. mad.gif

I couldn't believe they got rid of Bandit away at only 8 months old! DF's guess was that they didn't like that he got so big (even though they previously owned Rottis) and/or they didn't train him at all. We don't think he's a purebred. My Mum reckons he's mixed with Great Dane LOL He's very tall, long and skinny.


QUOTE (FiveAus @ 17/01/2013, 06:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Judging by the background and the stance, she looks like she's been shown.

That makes it really strange that she's being given away for free on GUMTREE!

#10 kadoodle

Posted 17 January 2013 - 06:05 PM

Grrrrrr.  

I'm really upset right now.  This is kind of local to me and I'd love a dog like this, but we're not in the position to get one for another few months.

#11 beaglebaby

Posted 17 January 2013 - 06:12 PM

I doubt that is even a photo of the dog being rehomed, it's probably copied from somewhere online.  Surely anyone who had shown their dog would know that breeders and breed clubs will help however they can in this situation.  It all sounds very strange really as they aren't really a breed that you can just buy on a whim.

I hope she finds a loving home.  I've met some lovely Elkhounds.

#12 FiveAus

Posted 17 January 2013 - 06:51 PM

Maybe not so unusual. Not all dogs kept for showing turn out good enough, or sometimes they simply don't like it. Usually it will be a tiny flaw such as a slightly crooked bite, or an incorrect tail carriage, or the wrong shaped feet, too tall or too short.......lots of things can make them unsuitable to keep showing.
And breeders will often make these young ex show dogs available as pets for the cost of having them desexed, or not much more. My son got a gorgeous English Setter this way......18 months old, $200.
If this particular dog is an ex show dog, I'm surprised the breeder wasn't asked to help rehome her.

#13 TillyTake2

Posted 17 January 2013 - 07:02 PM

I don't really get why people are having a go at the owner. Many things can change in 2 years & they may not be in a position to care for the dog anymore. They are being responsible & looking for a new home. They aren't "dumping" her!

#14 Feral*Spikey*

Posted 17 January 2013 - 07:08 PM

Um, because they've had a dog with an expected lifespan close to 20 years for less than 2. Unless you're talking about illness or major disability, etc, then the dog is just a 'disposable item' that they're getting rid of because they don't want it any more.

You don't need a large backyard for an Elkhound.

#15 Jellyblush

Posted 17 January 2013 - 07:16 PM

That is a gorgeous dog. I wonder if it'd get along with Roo.....

#16 TillyTake2

Posted 17 January 2013 - 07:17 PM

QUOTE (*Spikey* @ 17/01/2013, 08:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Um, because they've had a dog with an expected lifespan close to 20 years for less than 2. Unless you're talking about illness or major disability, etc, then the dog is just a 'disposable item' that they're getting rid of because they don't want it any more.

You don't need a large backyard for an Elkhound.



Or they are in financial difficulty & are "downsizing" to a unit where dogs are not allowed...

#17 Guest_Dinah_Harris_*

Posted 17 January 2013 - 07:20 PM

Because when you choose to bring dog (or any animal) into your family,  you do so for life.    They are not disposable items to be discarded when you decide to move into a smaller house!  Or they've decided the dog no longer fits their lifestyle.  Would you give away a child because you lose a job and its terribly inconvenient to have to keep feeding him/her?
I'll bet the dog hasn't been trained properly, too.

#18 FiveAus

Posted 17 January 2013 - 07:23 PM

They are being irresponsible. Not only in rehoming her, but offering her up on Gumtree as "free".  She is very young, and in that regard, you don't take on a dog then decide once it's two that it's no longer convenient to keep it. They're "downsizing"......so why aren't they getting rid of kids too? Oh yes, that's because it's illegal. Easier to off the dog.

My blood boils when I see ads like this.

#19 Guest_3Keiki_*

Posted 17 January 2013 - 07:26 PM

I'll take her!
God knows I have the room!
The kids would love her and although I have the time for training housetraining a dog is beyond me while I got one in nappies
Is this breed ok with kids

#20 TillyTake2

Posted 17 January 2013 - 07:27 PM

QUOTE (Dinah_Harris @ 17/01/2013, 08:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Because when you choose to bring dog (or any animal) into your family,  you do so for life.    They are not disposable items to be discarded when you decide to move into a smaller house!  Or they've decided the dog no longer fits their lifestyle.  Would you give away a child because you lose a job and its terribly inconvenient to have to keep feeding him/her?
I'll bet the dog hasn't been trained properly, too.


I'm sorry but I don't put a dog at the same level as a child. If I had to move into a unit to keep a roof over my human family then I would (very sadly) rehome my dog. It would be heartbreaking but I would do it for my kids.

I have had many dogs over my life & fortunately never had to rehome one. My only experience of rehoming was being the new home to a beautiful 2year old ridgeback. She was posted for rehoming in an ad like this. She was in fact beautifully cared for, perfectly trained (embarrassingly actually better than our own staffy wink.gif) and her owner was absolutely distraut to give her up. She used to email us for photos every month! She was giving her up because she had bought her with her then husband (2years earlier as a puppy) but they had since divorced & she was having to downsize to a unit which would not allow dogs.

Don't assume you know the full story or that the dog is poorly cared for or unloved. A dog is not a child and sometimes people have to make difficult decisions sad.gif

#21 shelly1

Posted 17 January 2013 - 07:38 PM

They are probably too embarrassed to contact the Breeder for help. Would be interesting if this ad was linked on Dogsonline if a breeder would recognise her. I also wonder if her microchip has the breeder details on it as a backup. I know a few breeders who do that

I am sure these people have their reasons  - sure it may be more than just the fact that they dont want her anymore but GUMTREE and FREE is possibly just condemning her to an "impulse" buy then another rehoming in a few years. Even asking for a token amount of money will give her some value and may stop people who arent really interested in taking her for the hell of it just because she is a freebie

#22 Stellajoy

Posted 17 January 2013 - 07:39 PM

Their full story should have included a place for their dog.

Some people shouldn't be allowed to own pets.

#23 Guest_Dinah_Harris_*

Posted 17 January 2013 - 07:42 PM

I've been there - I know what it's like.
We couldn't find a rental for love nor money which would accept dogs.  But I'm not going to give up my dog.  So we kept looking until we found a house which would accept her.  She is part of our family.  She is seven years old, and although much is changed in our lives, including drastically reducing income levels due to the GFC, a change in living circumstances and the arrival of two children, I would never, ever get rid of her.  Never.
If everything in the world went upside down, I would contact the breeder.  My dog wasn't suitable to be a show dog because she was too friendly and smiled too much.  But if we had any problems, I know the breeder would take her in an instant.




#24 FiveAus

Posted 17 January 2013 - 07:45 PM

If I had to "downsize" it would be to a place where I could have dogs. They are around.....they might not be in the most convenient locations, they might not be the most modern of residences, but they are there if you look hard enough.
Dogs don't take up much space.....mine each take up the equivalent of one section of the couch.

#25 beaglebaby

Posted 17 January 2013 - 07:53 PM

Even if I had to downsize and really really really couldn't have a dog anymore there are so many better ways to find someone new to love your pet.  There are breeders, breed clubs, rescue groups, foster groups, shelters, even the pound etc, all of whom will do checks on prospective owners and their homes and will offer trials to ensure the dog is placed in the right home.

Then again, maybe the publicity of how many dogs wind up is shelters and how they are doomed has pushed people into thinking rehoming them themselves on gumtree or through the paper is a better option.




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