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#1 Jellyblush

Posted 16 January 2013 - 07:35 PM

Hiya. Witnessed the following scene in a restaurant tonight and am interested in what the general parent consensus of it is (me not being one).

Restaurant is a Mexican. Not super fancy, but not a chain one either.

Patrons are some single people, some small family groups, some couples of all ages. One big table has two couples and four kids. They are all happy, and the kids are singing a song together (over and over and over lol). Parents smiling. Kids start singing louder and the word poo is in the song which must be exciting for them because they get even louder.

An older couple next to me gives the table some cranky looks and starts tutting. Waitress goes over and offers kids some colouring books.

Little girl at table starts making a noise like some sort of dying pterodactyl. Squealing.  The table is getting lots of attention now. The parents are chatting together.

Girls keeps squealing, and a single guy in a business suit moves tables to further away from them.

The older couple get up too, and the woman goes over to the parents and says "do you realise people are leaving because of you?"

Parent says 'and?'. About 15 minutes later the parents and kids leave, and as they do the parent complains to the girl at the counter about 'being harassed by the people in here'.

What do you think? Were the parents out of line, or was the lady? Or the restaurant for not keeping everyone happy.

#2 3spunkymonkeys

Posted 16 January 2013 - 07:39 PM

Yep parents out of line. I've got three boys & I wouldn't want to hear that behaviour from my kids while dining out, so certainly don't want to hear it from other peoples kids.

#3 casime

Posted 16 January 2013 - 07:40 PM

Parents are twats.

Restaurant should have stepped in to ask them to stop disturbing everyone.

$100 says someone will come in and say "but she might have special needs".

#4 Lauren Bell

Posted 16 January 2013 - 07:40 PM

Does anyone wanna go to a restaurant and listen to kids singing loud and squealing? Personally I wouldn't care coz I have kids but I know most people wouldn't and I think they (the parents) shoulda told the kids to keep it down!

It disgusts me that the parents complained to the poor waitress who's done nothing wrong!!

#5 Hands Up

Posted 16 January 2013 - 07:41 PM

What an unpleasant parent/adult. Some people have no manners do they? That would have driven me nuts!

#6 capper

Posted 16 January 2013 - 07:42 PM

Parents are put of line.  Children need to learn to sit and not disturb other diners in a restaurant.  If they can't, take them to a more child friendly place.  I would be annoyed if I had paid to go out for dinner and had children being noisy and not controlled.

#7 Mercurial

Posted 16 January 2013 - 07:43 PM

No bet.  

Way out of line.  Kids chattings and even singing a little song is fine - screaching and carrying on is not.  And everybody gets annoyed with the parents seem to do nothing about it.  

And the parents are rude.

#8 Prickly

Posted 16 January 2013 - 07:45 PM

Can I hazard a guess that it was your family ?

#9 bubmakes3

Posted 16 January 2013 - 07:46 PM

I am not sure who is responsible but this is how Ibehave/react when eating out with DS (usually we do breakfast)
If DS (2y10m) is laughing and having fun but not being overly loud I do not worry. If DS is yelling/screetching like a dying cat for no apparent reason then hell yes he will be told to use his inside voice and calm down. If DS was singing kids songs, christmas carols, the alphabet at normal volume (a common thing at the moment) he would not be told to be quiet. If he started singing inappropriate for the time and place songs (poo songs in a restaurant being one of those) then yes he would be asked to be quiet and encouraged to engage in a quiet activity.

While I am there to enjoy a nice meal out with my family - all of the other patrons are trying to do the same and are entitled to do so - I am mindful of this whenever we are out in a public place with DS.

#10 TinyTeddys

Posted 16 January 2013 - 07:46 PM

It's hard to pass judgement without actually being there. In my experience with three young children, the expectations on kids to 'behave' are quite high. If they are too noisy you get funny looks, same if they are being quite and are entertaining themselves with a smart phone. Seriously, it's not that much fun for them to just sit in a restaurant.
In saying that, I am aware of how easily my kids can get carried away in the presence of others. I probably would have pulled them up with if they were getting too loud and started to get silly.

#11 a letter to Elise.

Posted 16 January 2013 - 07:49 PM

Parents were rude. They should have intervened when the poo song started.

#12 Feral*Spikey*

Posted 16 January 2013 - 07:49 PM

Screeching etc is out of line.

However, the passive-aggressive statement from the lady was also out of line.

#13 Guest_Sunnycat_*

Posted 16 January 2013 - 07:53 PM

OP How do you know what a pterodactyl sounds like, let alone a dying one? Tounge1.gif

#14 sparassidae

Posted 16 January 2013 - 07:56 PM

Parents were out of line. Sure, a bit of excited conversation or talking volume appropriate song, but louder than that and we distract or issue warnings with consequences.

#15 Jellyblush

Posted 16 January 2013 - 07:56 PM

QUOTE (Prickly @ 16/01/2013, 08:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Can I hazard a guess that it was your family ?

biggrin.gif  gosh no! I am a single person with no kids who's in that town for business.

To be honest, I probably over-tolerate poor behaviour from kids because I'm so conscious of not having any and therefore being that single person that doesn't know what kids are like.

These kids were loud though, I've just got back to my hotel with a headache and have had to pop two aspirin.

The parents seemed to be just leaving them to it and enjoying their catch up as two couples.

QUOTE (bubmakes3 @ 16/01/2013, 08:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
If DS (2y10m) is laughing and having fun but not being overly loud I do not worry. If DS is yelling/screetching like a dying cat for no apparent reason then hell yes he will be told to use his inside voice and calm down. If DS was singing kids songs, christmas carols, the alphabet at normal volume (a common thing at the moment) he would not be told to be quiet. If he started singing inappropriate for the time and place songs (poo songs in a restaurant being one of those) then yes he would be asked to be quiet and encouraged to engage in a quiet activity.

I like this ^^

#16 Jellyblush

Posted 16 January 2013 - 07:56 PM

OP How do you know what a pterodactyl sounds like, let alone a dying one?

Good question! NFI, that's definitely what it was though!  tongue.gif

Edited by Jellyblush, 16 January 2013 - 07:58 PM.

#17 bakesgirls

Posted 16 January 2013 - 08:02 PM

Parents were rude. They may enjoy hearing their kids screech, but not everyone else has to enjoy hearing it also. The other patrons are also paying customers that have the right to enjoy their meal/night out.

QUOTE (*Spikey* @ 16/01/2013, 08:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
However, the passive-aggressive statement from the lady was also out of line.

Really? I just see it as the lady stating a fact.

#18 ~sydblue~

Posted 16 January 2013 - 08:05 PM

My parents used to take us to a mexican restaurant at coolangatta all the time when I was young. It was very much a family type atmosphere and about the only thing we got into trouble for, was running around. We were allowed to sing.

So for me it just all depends on the place. Had the kids of been running around being stupid, then yeah I might laughingly tell them to settle down. However if they were just singing out loud, then so what.

And before I get crucified for letting kids be kids. My 2 know when and where to behave. I have no problems where ever we take them for dinner and never have.

#19 Bluemakede

Posted 16 January 2013 - 08:05 PM

I think the parents should've told the children to stop screeching, if they were singing or laughing at a normal level with the odd bit of loudness it would be fine, but no not screaming and screeching.

Funny enough I was talking to my mother about this type of thing today, after watching 2 children in the macca's play area at masters have a contest to see who could scream the loudest. The parents just sat there smiling at their children, whilst most others in the area were cringing at the pain it was causing everyone's ears (and made me think I'll be investing in ear plugs when this baby is old enough to go play).

#20 liveworkplay

Posted 16 January 2013 - 08:07 PM

You have your consensus biggrin.gif

As a mum of three kids, I often get really annoyed at other kids behaving inappropriately for the setting when their parents sit around doing nothing.

#21 Aimless

Posted 16 January 2013 - 08:08 PM

I'm surprised the parents didn't get a headache from all that screeching. I know I get migraines when my boys try to talk on top of each other. Parents should have said something to the kids. As much as I enjoy adult conversation, if my kids were being obnoxiously loud, I would have taken them out of the restaurant or told them to behave.

#22 Jellyblush

Posted 16 January 2013 - 08:08 PM

QUOTE (bakesgirls @ 16/01/2013, 09:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The other patrons are also paying customers that have the right to enjoy their meal/night out.

It was seriously not possible for anyone in their vicinity to be enjoying the meal.  If I had been paying for my meal, or on a date or something I would have been extremely p*ssed off.

Did the restaurant have an obligation to their other customers to say something do you think ?

Last night, in a different town, there was a couple with a toddler, the toddler was taken outside to run around whenever she got a bit fidgety and chatty. In that instance, she wasn't even really that noisy. Chalk and cheese.

#23 Feral-as-Meggs

Posted 16 January 2013 - 08:08 PM

What time was it.   The rudeness factor increases the later it was.  If it was 5-6pm then I think it's expected in a family type restaurant.  If after 7 then super rude.

#24 icekool

Posted 16 January 2013 - 08:11 PM

I don't mind other kids behaving badly but mine have to behave well.

I think both parties are to blame. Parents should know how to teach their kids etiquette and they are being a bit precious though parents protecting their kids. The others/lady should know that you will get all sorts in different restaurants. If you want peace and quiet, go somewhere where they play the violin with your meal or take away and drive through.

#25 Copacetic

Posted 16 January 2013 - 08:12 PM

Families with the kids were out of line. Old woman was out of line.

And so is this:

100 says someone will come in and say "but she might have special needs".

I wasn't going to. It never even occurred to me. Until I read that. Because the experience in the OP is not foreign to me. I have been the family described in the OP. I just would have done whatever I could to make sure it didn't get out of hand. Which would probably include bringing iPads to the table. Which I'm sure someone would end up b**ching about.

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