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#1 ~~~

Posted 16 January 2013 - 05:47 PM

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/parenting...a-1226555303135

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A MOTHER of three has been forced to leave a public pool in tears after staff insisted she stop breastfeeding her 11-month-old baby.

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With her children Kylan, 6, and Jayda, 5, happily playing in the pool while she cooled her feet in the water, Ms Webster thought nothing of breastfeeding her 11-month-old daughter Rori.


I'm just amazed..... and not in a good way sad.gif  Makes me wonder about BFing legislation in different states as it has been a while since it was relevant to me. I never had any negative experiences BFing in public, and its terrible that this is still going on.

#2 kadoodle

Posted 16 January 2013 - 05:50 PM

WTF?  That is utterly obnoxious and loco.  Why would any institution place do that?

#3 Agnodice the Feral

Posted 16 January 2013 - 05:54 PM

It was after another family complained. Sigh.

#4 Funwith3

Posted 16 January 2013 - 05:56 PM

Have I read this right - is it illegal to breast feed in a public place in Queensland!?

#5 Cacti

Posted 16 January 2013 - 05:59 PM

QUOTE (Funwith3 @ 16/01/2013, 05:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Have I read this right - is it illegal to breast feed in a public place in Queensland!?


No, the opposite - "In Queensland, breastfeeding is protected by law and discrimination on the basis of breastfeeding is illegal in all areas of public life."

I'm really surprised at this - I went to a public pool the other day and was thinking it would be the best place to breastfeed - after all, top is already off, it's not like any more skin than normal is showing.

#6 Zarlias

Posted 16 January 2013 - 05:59 PM

Shameful.

Unfortunately, as a new and nervous public feeder, it will make me think twice next time I need to feed :-(

#7 StopTheGoats

Posted 16 January 2013 - 05:59 PM

I don't give a wombats backside about the fact that the other family were ignorant, had improperly sexualised this woman's breasts and were self entitled enough to complain. It was managements responsibility to tell this 'family' to pull their head out of their backsides and point out that it is entirely legal to breast feed anywhere any time. Why was the breast feeding mother even informed of this other personscomplaint?

#8 ~~~

Posted 16 January 2013 - 05:59 PM

QUOTE (Funwith3 @ 16/01/2013, 06:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Have I read this right - is it illegal to breast feed in a public place in Queensland!?


I don't believe so from the article, but I'm in NSW.

From the article:
QUOTE
In Queensland, breastfeeding is protected by law and discrimination on the basis of breastfeeding is illegal in all areas of public life.



#9 erindiv

Posted 16 January 2013 - 06:01 PM

QUOTE (Funwith3 @ 16/01/2013, 06:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Have I read this right - is it illegal to breast feed in a public place in Queensland!?


Not right.

QUOTE
In Queensland, breastfeeding is protected by law and discrimination on the basis of breastfeeding is illegal in all areas of public life.


Basically what this pool staff person did is illegal as they have discriminated against her by asking her to stop.

It is most certainly not, as the idiot staff member said, a 'grey area'  mad.gif

I would have refused to leave. What are the going to do, pluck the baby off you, or push you into the pool? I'd smile cheerfully and say "No thanks, I'm comfy right here. It is perfectly legal to breastfeed in public." Then turn away and ignore them.

Maybe if people started being more bold about it then these fools would think twice about trying such stupid tricks.





edited to correct angry spelling mistakes.

Edited by erindiv, 16 January 2013 - 06:01 PM.


#10 Guest_Sunnycat_*

Posted 16 January 2013 - 06:04 PM

Pretty pathetic in today's day and age, but not surprising either. Their p*ss poor excuse makes it even more embarrassing for them.

#11 Cacti

Posted 16 January 2013 - 06:05 PM

QUOTE (Zarlias @ 16/01/2013, 05:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Shameful.

Unfortunately, as a new and nervous public feeder, it will make me think twice next time I need to feed :-(


Think about this way - when it happens, it's worthy of outrage and a newspaper article, so it can't happen that often. I've been feeding in public for six months and never had a bad comment or look - at a recent airport trip where there were hours of flight delays, the flight attendants were handing out water and pringles, I was feeding bub so couldn't get up and someone I didn't know sitting next to me jumped up to get me both. This was after I'd had to ask for a chair - at first the person I asked said no, sorry, that chair wasn't spare, his wife was coming straight back, when I said it was to feed the baby, he said, "Oh, of course!" and moved his stuff.

#12 bakesgirls

Posted 16 January 2013 - 06:10 PM

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"The staff member was concerned about the comfort of the breastfeeding mum and offered her access to the centre's mothers' room or alternatively a chair for the convenience of both mum and baby,'' the council statement says.


What a load of BS. The staff member was not concerned for the comfort of the mother and child. They were uncomfortable with seeing a woman feed her child, and chose to agree with the family that complained. Concern, does not involve telling someone that they are not allowed to BF where they are and must refrain from feeding in the open. Sounds like the council is just trying to cover their own backside.

#13 Milly Molly Mandy

Posted 16 January 2013 - 06:11 PM

Zarlias, please don't let that worry you. As Cacti said the fact it made the news means it doesn't happen often. I fed all three of mine whenever and wherever and never even got a sideways glance.

Enjoy your little one!

As for the story, sigh.

#14 ~~~

Posted 16 January 2013 - 06:12 PM

QUOTE (Zarlias @ 16/01/2013, 06:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Shameful.

Unfortunately, as a new and nervous public feeder, it will make me think twice next time I need to feed :-(


QUOTE (Cacti @ 16/01/2013, 07:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Think about this way - when it happens, it's worthy of outrage and a newspaper article, so it can't happen that often. I've been feeding in public for six months and never had a bad comment or look - at a recent airport trip where there were hours of flight delays, the flight attendants were handing out water and pringles, I was feeding bub so couldn't get up and someone I didn't know sitting next to me jumped up to get me both. This was after I'd had to ask for a chair - at first the person I asked said no, sorry, that chair wasn't spare, his wife was coming straight back, when I said it was to feed the baby, he said, "Oh, of course!" and moved his stuff.


I BF 2 children 6mths+ and never had a negative experience other than my BIL leaving the table when I was feeding DS. Granted I was wearing a maternity singlet thing (it was summer), so a bit more flesh was on view.... but it didn't seem to bother anyone else shrug.gif
As Cacti said, it doesn't happen very often and there is legislation in place to prevent this exact type of discrimination.

Having said that, does anyone know if the anti-discrimination laws with regard to breastfeeding are the same all over Australia?

Edited by ~~~, 16 January 2013 - 06:13 PM.


#15 StopTheGoats

Posted 16 January 2013 - 06:15 PM

QUOTE (erindiv @ 16/01/2013, 07:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Not right.



Basically what this pool staff person did is illegal as they have discriminated against her by asking her to stop.

It is most certainly not, as the idiot staff member said, a 'grey area'  mad.gif

I would have refused to leave. What are the going to do, pluck the baby off you, or push you into the pool? I'd smile cheerfully and say "No thanks, I'm comfy right here. It is perfectly legal to breastfeed in public." Then turn away and ignore them.

Maybe if people started being more bold about it then these fools would think twice about trying such stupid tricks.





edited to correct angry spelling mistakes.


It really shouldn't be up to the post partum woman with her breast out and a hungry toddler to be bold though. Her rights are very logical, straightforward and legally protected.

QUOTE (Cacti @ 16/01/2013, 07:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Think about this way - when it happens, it's worthy of outrage and a newspaper article, so it can't happen that often. I've been feeding in public for six months and never had a bad comment or look - at a recent airport trip where there were hours of flight delays, the flight attendants were handing out water and pringles, I was feeding bub so couldn't get up and someone I didn't know sitting next to me jumped up to get me both. This was after I'd had to ask for a chair - at first the person I asked said no, sorry, that chair wasn't spare, his wife was coming straight back, when I said it was to feed the baby, he said, "Oh, of course!" and moved his stuff.


True. I was only made to feel uncomfortable once - by a tourist from the States where from what I can gather public breastfeeding is more of an emotionally charged issue than here. The fact that this is newsworthy should be celebrated, though it would be even better if it never happened at all.

#16 ImpatientAnna

Posted 16 January 2013 - 06:19 PM

I would have just stayed. When pushed further I would have said 'do you plan on calling the police to remove me? Please do so and they will tell you that I am protected by the law to feed wherever I choose'.

Shame on the employee for not telling the uncomfortable family to sod off!  If she had of simply told them 'I am sorry, breast feeding mothers are welcome here', one family might have got their backs up. Now, I am imagining and hoping a lot of people will boycott this pool.

#17 Coffeegirl

Posted 16 January 2013 - 06:22 PM

At first I thought maybe it was for safety reasons as the mum couldn't be properly supervising her children who were in the water while she was also sitting on the edge of the pool feeding her baby.  I know at our centre you must be within an arms length of all children under 7 and the 'lifeguards' are not there to supervise your children.  If one of her other children got in trouble, what is she supposed to do with the baby?  

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b]With her children Kylan, 6, and Jayda, 5, happily playing in the pool while she cooled her feet in the water, [/b]Ms Webster thought nothing of breastfeeding her 11-month-old daughter Rori..


But then I read this part and changed my mind.

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"I said I was sure it was illegal to tell me to do that but she said it was a grey area...and had to insist I didn't feed there.''
The staff member offered alternatives to Ms Webster, including going to a changeroom or moving to the corner of the centre and covering her baby with a towel while she breastfed.



Bad move on the part of the staff and I hope they have been suitably reprimanded and made aware of the law.  

The aquatic centre should also be contacting the mum and offering her a free annual pass !!!

#18 snuffles

Posted 16 January 2013 - 06:25 PM

I have certainly breastfed in 5 states and one territory, in public, with no issues at all.

Once when we were in Qld I was breastfeeding my youngest in a shopping centre, and I noticed an older woman looking at me, looking away, looking at me.  After a while she approached me and I mentally prepared myself, thinking of all the smart 'I am allowed to breastfeed where I choose' comments that I had read on EB.  She came right over to me, bent down and said in a ringing voice, "Good on you love!"

Made my day!



#19 ~~~

Posted 16 January 2013 - 06:30 PM

Thanks Sassy Girl. I had thought it would be federal but hadn't looked it up. Good to know though original.gif

#20 Cat People

Posted 16 January 2013 - 06:30 PM

I thought it might have been safety or even an issue if the mum was in the water, but that all seems unlikely when you read what the staff member said.

It's easy to say you'd just stay or say this or that, but when you're sitting there with a boob out and someone is telling you it's wrong, you feel very vulnerable.  Especially if it's in public and you know there's been a complaint.  



#21 deejie

Posted 16 January 2013 - 06:32 PM

I hope someone local organises an enormous group breastfeed at Bribie Island Aquatic Centre ph34r.gif

Edited by deejie, 16 January 2013 - 06:33 PM.


#22 axiomae

Posted 16 January 2013 - 06:34 PM

Yes yes! Bribie ladies - do it!

#23 Leafprincess

Posted 16 January 2013 - 06:35 PM

QUOTE (deejie @ 16/01/2013, 06:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I hope someone local organises an enormous group breastfeed at Bribie Island Aquatic Centre ph34r.gif


I was thinking the same thing!



#24 ShelleyH

Posted 16 January 2013 - 06:36 PM

QUOTE (deejie @ 16/01/2013, 06:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I hope someone local organises an enormous group breastfeed at Bribie Island Aquatic Centre ph34r.gif



I believe there is one being planned for this Saturday from what i've read on the facebook group the mother from the article is also in.

#25 MintyBiscuit

Posted 16 January 2013 - 06:37 PM

I find it amazing that there are still people who think it's ok to tell breastfeeding mothers to move on, and then when they're called on it their employers give some BS excuse rather than apologising profusely and thinking that perhaps they need to train their staff.

Grey area my a*se. That poor woman.




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