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#1 Around_the_world

Posted 16 January 2013 - 04:11 PM

I know a man who has an almost 3 yr old DS. I was just amazed at how many words he changed for his son. When DS eats something dad has got him to believe he is pecking it. He never says eat it all up, or what are you eating. It's pecking.
So here I am imagining this kid in school asking his friend "what are you pecking for lunch?"

Another one is for teeth. Everytime his hurt or he gets another one it's " are your pegs ok? Or are you getting more pegs?"

Then he goes to daycare once a week, but dad introduced it as school. So that's what he has always known. just makes me think that when he does finally go to school maybe it won't be so special for him?

So do you call things something different? Or do you think it will be damaging for the children when they are older?


Posted 16 January 2013 - 04:17 PM

They learn the proper words eventually. I don't discourage when the kids say cute words even if they're incorrect, because it's such a short time. I don't see the big deal - and lots of people say "toothie pegs".

#3 Always amazed!

Posted 16 January 2013 - 04:18 PM

I call daycare school. Baby school and then kindergarten is big school.

My parents call my kids teeth toothie pegs.

I can't see a problem with it?

#4 Fr0g

Posted 16 January 2013 - 04:19 PM

Our kids have 'hooves' rather than feet.

As long as genitalia have proper names, I can't see the potential for too much harm.

DS 11 and DD 7 have survived so far.

#5 Beanbag Warrior

Posted 16 January 2013 - 04:20 PM

First incident is a bit weird.  2nd sounds like it's an old family/dad term that he's using with his own son.

And 3rd, eh, who cares.  What makes so school special anyway? You're stuck there for the next 12 years!

the kid will pick up the socially appropriate terms soon enough.

I thought this was going to be about genitals.  in that particular case, I was going to say that I can't see how they'd come up that often in conversation, so might as well teach them the real word!

#6 ///

Posted 16 January 2013 - 04:21 PM

Think you are over thinking the school thing. The other things are just irritating.

#7 liveworkplay

Posted 16 January 2013 - 04:22 PM

I get where you are coming from. As long as they know the correct word for things then I don't see too much of a problem. Personally I like my kids to call things what they are, but that's just me. That said, they do still have (and use) multiple names for things like bum, bot bot, tushie, deriere, bottom.

#8 Around_the_world

Posted 16 January 2013 - 04:25 PM

Oh the amount of different names I've heard for genitalia.

But I guess you're right. I don't know, I guess it's just me. I feel funny saying things like that to DD and don't want Others to either. I do find it interesting though listening to other parents and their children and what they call things and sometimes wonder how they came up with it.

#9 Alacritous~Andy

Posted 16 January 2013 - 04:25 PM

I am a huge fan of slang.  I am also a big one for nicknames.  I think it is just my love of language in general, and I love how colourful and descriptive slang can be.  

That said, I think it is important to also use the "proper" words for things too.

For example, I love that DS calls morning tea "smoko" thanks to his great-great-uncle.  It makes me smile because it reminds of the connection the two of them share, and the bond that has blossomed over watered down cups of tea and pieces of fruitcake.  But he also knows what "morning tea" is.  

So, I guess I am a fence-sitter.

#10 Isolabella

Posted 16 January 2013 - 04:26 PM

Is it patent teaching child or parent following child?

We have "red bread" fajitas, " baby cheese" baby belle cheese.

We have " normal Kindy" daycare and "new Kindy" 3/4yo kinder.

School is referred to as DS1s name school ( yes we did have a moment issue when DS2 was asked if he was going to St X school and he replied that he would be going to DS1 Name school.

As PP said so long as it is not for private parts I don't care.

DD currently insists ham is Bacon. I go with the flow.

#11 erindiv

Posted 16 January 2013 - 04:28 PM

Pretty much everyone I know calls day care or kindy "school" to their kids.

I also say toothie pegs. I love any excuse to say toothie pegs. I wish DS would get some toothie pegs...

#12 HRH Countrymel

Posted 16 January 2013 - 04:29 PM

I got absolutely slated once when playing with a friend's toddler sister.  I was making animals out of playdough (bloody good ones too I don't mind saying so!) and was jumping the bunny around saying "Here comes Mr Bunny.." and other such Shakespearean sentencery..

In jumps Mum (friend's stepmother) with vicious glare: "Rabbit!  We don't use babytalk in this house!" then directed at child..  "It's a RABBIT darling, RABBIT!"

Never felt more humiliated in my life!  And as my friend said as we left - "It might well be a 'rabbit' but her Mum has never sat and played playdough with her in her life, I think she was enjoying the bunny myself!"

As for school.. all my teacher friends call daycare 'school' to their little ones - "I'm going to school, big brother's going to school and you are going to school.."  when they go to 'real' school they know the difference.

And 'pegs' - we called them toothypegs when I was a child too - so you could shorten that to 'pegs' or 'tooth'... didn't seem to hold my sister back from becoming a dental nurse!

We had a multitude of  made up/non standard words when I was growing up, hell I still do!  Where my Mum hails from they speak in a dialect, we used lots of those words (and still do, and teach them to others) as it made Mum feel less homesick, plus they were just really awesome word!

But it never seemed to hold me back verbally or with written language - in fact I would like to think that they are two of my strengths!

Specific vocabulary is how groups bind themselves together - if you have a 'family dialect' then it is just part of what binds your family together as a unit.

Viva diversity!  More words not less!

#13 katniss

Posted 16 January 2013 - 04:31 PM

We are talking to DS2 about going to school this year even tho it's day care. Mainly because DS1 goes to school and DS2 loves to be exactly like big brother so I'm hoping it'll ease him into day care easier. I'm sure he'll be just as excited going to proper school because it'll be at the same place as big brother!

Pecking is a bit weird but I think over time they progress to saying the right words.

Edited by katniss, 16 January 2013 - 04:31 PM.

#14 BadCat

Posted 16 January 2013 - 04:32 PM

We enjoy playing with language.  We call all sorts of stuff by odd terms.  As long as you aren't stupid enough to let them go into the world thinking that they have pegs instead of teeth I don't see a problem.

If you never teach them the right words, or you actually tell them they're wrong when they do learn the right word from someone then your a moron.  But who would do that?

#15 FlamingoG

Posted 16 January 2013 - 04:42 PM

He's a pre-schooler, not a Rhodes Scholar. Has he taught him an alternative word for killjoy?

#16 Lolpigs

Posted 16 January 2013 - 04:48 PM

Nothing wrong at all playing with language, you just have to make sure they know the difference when they are old enough, and not keep reinforcing the play word as the real one.

#17 TeaTimeTreat

Posted 16 January 2013 - 04:54 PM

Daycare and Kindy have always been called Kindy, and my pet hate with babytalk is people teaching them Ta for thankyou.

I cannot stand it, "say Ta Jade" aaarrrrggg nooooooo!

I don't know why I hate it but I really really do.

#18 HRH Countrymel

Posted 16 January 2013 - 04:59 PM

QUOTE (sparkler @ 16/01/2013, 05:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Daycare and Kindy have always been called Kindy

Not kindergarten?  Tut tut!

My mother could not abide the word 'kindy' - which was a bit difficult as she was a kindergarten/prep teacher!

It caused I would imagine a similar tooth squeaking reaction as 'Ta' does to you!

#19 Copacetic

Posted 16 January 2013 - 04:59 PM

Its far more annoying when adults do it when they're talking to other adults (ie, Bubs instead of baby etc).

#20 loubee

Posted 16 January 2013 - 05:02 PM

I don't have a problem with some silly names but I do hate it when kids mispronounce something as they can't say it properly and parents continue to repeat this to the child who in turn thinks they are saying it correctly.

Again possibly not the end of the world but I have a friend who has done this with each of her children and each of them had speech problems and subsequent therapy. No one could understand them until they were quite old which is a problem imo and the younger two still have problems.

#21 kiam

Posted 16 January 2013 - 05:03 PM

Not "made up words" but there were many words that I didn't know in English until I started school. I never really hindered me. There are still names for things now that just don't sound right to me in English.

That said, I have to admit, the pecking one would make me cringe if I had to hear it often, it just makes me imagine a child repeatedly banging their face into a plate of food. It would take every ounce of willpower to not correct that one, solely because it would annoy me.

#22 erindiv

Posted 16 January 2013 - 05:05 PM

QUOTE (countrymel @ 16/01/2013, 05:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I got absolutely slated once when playing with a friend's toddler sister.  I was making animals out of playdough (bloody good ones too I don't mind saying so!) and was jumping the bunny around saying "Here comes Mr Bunny.." and other such Shakespearean sentencery..

In jumps Mum (friend's stepmother) with vicious glare: "Rabbit!  We don't use babytalk in this house!" then directed at child..  "It's a RABBIT darling, RABBIT!"

ohmy.gif  Holy moly.

#23 B.feral3

Posted 16 January 2013 - 05:07 PM

QUOTE (FrogIsAFrogIsAFrog @ 16/01/2013, 04:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Our kids have 'hooves' rather than feet.

As long as genitalia have proper names, I can't see the potential for too much harm.

DS 11 and DD 7 have survived so far.

I agree. For me, I can't stand hearing parents and kids refer to a penis as a willy or a doodle/doodie and a vagina as a muffin/mini mini/wee wee/petal/mouse/jae jae etc.  sick.gif   rant.gif

Milk in this house on the other hand has been 'mook' for a long time. DS1 started it as a baby. It kind of stuck!!

#24 raven74

Posted 16 January 2013 - 05:17 PM

I think many families have "pet" words.  Armpits have always been bodsalodels to us.  DD call em her 'lodels.
I don't see the issue apart from the fact that some terms can be twee and irritating when often repeated to the unititiated.

#25 Around_the_world

Posted 16 January 2013 - 05:23 PM

To be completely honest I think it all bugs me just because of the pecking comments. It does make me cringe. The others not so bad, though he did try and call my DD's teeth ( that haven't even surfaced yet) pegs. I said to him we call them teeth and he said nah she wants to call them pegs like I do. He understood after I made it clear that I will be telling her they are teeth.

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