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#1 mum2jp

Posted 14 January 2013 - 09:36 PM

I need to lose probably 10 to15 kg and tone. I am carrying a lot of extra weight since DS 2 years ago, feel very yuck and we are TTC without any luck so far. I Have PCOS so losing weight will improve my chances of conceiving and help me not to put on even more weight next  baby. My question is if you had to choose where would you invest your money. I am thinking either.1) getting a gym membership with a few persona trainer sessions to get me started an trying to adjust and change my eating habits myself    Or2) joining on of the food related weight loss programs such as weight watchers or light nd easy and trying to establish and maintain the ex cerise by myself.
I guess I m just not sure which sort of assistance would give me a better chance at successfully losing the weight. TIA

#2 MahnaMahna

Posted 14 January 2013 - 09:44 PM

I have always been told weight loss is 80% healthy diet/portion control and 20% exercise.



#3 mez70

Posted 14 January 2013 - 09:58 PM

To be honest I would look at seeing a dietician or a specialist in eating and metabolisim. You can exercise all you want but if you are eating the wrong foods in the wrong portions etc then you won't get great results,

Exercise is "part" of the issue. You need to find out what foods your body is able to process most efficiently and don't just store as fat. Excercise can be incidental as well.. Playing with kids dancing to the wiggles etc all add up.


I have been on a similar journey and have lost approx 5 of the 15-17 kgs I need to loose. I have been going to the gym and to be honest although I am feeling fitter and able to do more the results are not happening as good as I like. I know my answer is in the food I eat. when the kids go back to school and kinder etc and all sports term fees etc are paid up I will actually be getting a referral from my GP to a specialist Physician (DR) who specilizes in Clinical Nutrition and Metabolism. Her special interests are diabetes and eating disorders amongst other things. She is brilliant and I had my dad referred to her recently when he was diagnosed with Type 2. I was a patient of hers many years ago so knew she would help dad and she has pegged issues with his weight and how we can manage it with his other co conditions, changed 1 medication etc. The best part was she remembered me and why she was seeing me and has agreed to work with me in my journey as she pegged me when I asked about possibly coming back to her (know me too bloody well lol)

For me when we can get to the bottom of medical issues I know the weight will then start to drop so for me I would really look at the medical and food side of things but with specialists not so the Lite n Easy which really doesn't teach you anything about food choices and selections or WW which is good but again not the medical background.. Good luck it is bloody hard but even just feeling fitter is helping me more and more each day


#4 pitzinoodles

Posted 14 January 2013 - 10:08 PM

Definitely put the money into the food side, either a dietician or weight loss program. Exercise IS good, but you are very unlikely to loose a significant amount of weight by increasing exercise alone. In fact quite a few people actually put on weight when they exercise as it stimulates appetite and then they over eat.

Weight loss will be more about what you eat, than getting to the gym. Of course getting to the gym will also be great for you, but probably won't result in the weight loss you'd like.

good luck!!

#5 B-B-M

Posted 14 January 2013 - 10:37 PM

Yep - agree i'd go with the "food" side.

SIL did Lite n Easy and lost 20kgs! She looks amazing - she exercises (now) but the majority of her loss was changing the way she eats. She said it has taught her portion control which she thinks was her biggest problem.



#6 Roxi

Posted 14 January 2013 - 10:47 PM

I think you need both. There is so much information out there on the internet about healthy eating that I don't see why you would really need to see someone about it. But with exercising you really need to guidance and help from a PT.

#7 José

Posted 15 January 2013 - 12:57 AM

For me I would choose the gym. I have bought exercise dads to do at home but I don't enjoy doing that as much as I enjoy going to the gym. Sure you don't need to go to a gym to exercise but if I don't find too many excuses- it's too hot to go for a talk or its raining or I really need to do x around the house.  But if I schedule a gym session I find I go and I stick it out. So I think in part it depends on you. If ur highly motivated and will exercise at home and have a good idea about a range of exercises you can do then go with the food option. If ur more like me and have a good idea of where the failings in ur diet are' not enough veggies and too many jollies and soft drinks then go to the gym.

#8 WizzFizz

Posted 15 January 2013 - 06:16 AM

Personally I don't think you need to spend money on either.

You can easily track food using My Fitness Pal - its easy, free and if you use it every day keeps you very accountable.
Exercise wise, all you need to do it move more. Go for a walk every day, go for a run, swim some laps at the pool, ride a bike with the kids.

Losing weight is not overly complicated. Eat Less. Move More.

My biggest advice is set yourself some realistic goals, tell EVERYONE you know about them and reward yourself along the way.

Good luck !

#9 vitaechel

Posted 15 January 2013 - 06:27 AM

I would say it depends on how you are now. The kind of diet you have now and how much you exercise. If you are prone to eating unhealthy food choices or large portions then you would benefit from food related weight programs. But if you eat relatively well and know what you need to cut from your diet to assist you with weight loss then perhaps exercise is the key for you.

My DH and I find exercise is the key for us. We eat fairly healthily and have a fair amount of food and portion knowledge between us (DH was an athlete most of his life and I have a "foodie" family who like to grow vegies and I worked as a cook for a while). I find I need the motivation of going to a gym or doing dance classes to get my butt moving, but DH will happily go for a 2hr ride or dance for hours without a problem.

#10 Phascogale

Posted 15 January 2013 - 08:03 AM

They are both important but food is probably moreso than the exercise at this point.  Maybe look at a dietician or some sort of lifestyle change diet that you can continue for the rest of your life.  There's no point going on a 'shake' diet for a couple of months and losing weight but having no idea about a balanced diet because you'll just put the weight back on when you come off the diet (not saying you'll do this but using it as an example).

You're also not going to lose much weight if you spend 2 hours in the gym and then come home and eat the wrong foods (or too much food regardless of how healthy it is) but you will probably be fitter.

With the PCOS I'd also be looking at metabolic stuff too as that may be preventing weight loss as well ie do you have insulin resistance as part of the syndrome.

#11 lozoodle

Posted 15 January 2013 - 08:05 AM

I'd go the weight loss program (weight watchers is the one I swear by), there is lots of free exercise you can be doing along with that. Gym is useless until you learn to eat properly.

Edited by lozoodle, 15 January 2013 - 08:05 AM.


#12 ByzantineEmpress

Posted 15 January 2013 - 08:11 AM

What about something like the Michelle bridges 12wbt? It incorporates both. There is another round starting shortly.

#13 Tree Sage

Posted 15 January 2013 - 08:15 AM

Dont eat anything from a packet.
Keep it clean.

Go see a pt who will help you with diet AND exercise and work out a plan for you.

I do boot camp. Love it! Heaps better than a gym and lots of advice to be had. Plus it works your whole body and your fitness improves incredibly. the weight just falls off.

If you have 'issues' with food go see your GP. You can get a referal to a counsellor. I think you get 10 free sessions a year.

Stay away from weight watchers as all their food is loaded with sugar and sodium and really isnt good for you. Its so processed.
Avoid other gimicking diets as once you lose the weight and start eating normally you will pile it back on again.

Dont think of this as a diet. Its a change in your eating which you are going to do the rest of your life. SO it needs to be manageable.

Oh , and watch your portion sizes.


#14 lizzzard

Posted 15 January 2013 - 08:20 AM

Without a doubt, I join WW or similar. Food is the majority of the issue for most people, but WW also provides support and encouragement on the exercise side as well whereas a gym membership won't provide any support on the food side. I also don't think you *need* to spend money on a gym to incorporate exercise into your life...but that's probably just me - I prefer my exercise to be free Tounge1.gif

#15 Leafprincess

Posted 15 January 2013 - 08:25 AM

I would not do either.

I have PCOS too and seeing a dietician years ago was the best thing I ever did.
Learning to cook & make your own foods specific to your condition is way better than relying on someone else to do it for you. Because unless you have an endless steam of money at the end of the day you will need to do it yourself.

Key points for healthy PCOS eating:
No sugar besides fruit
Whole wheat & grains only - no white pasta, bread etc
Whole foods - hardly eat any processed foods
Include lentils & pulses into your diet (these keep you feeling full too)

I agree with pp that portion control is very important. I eat off an entree plate not a mains plate. I don't do seconds either. Because it takes up to 20 minutes for your body to register you are full. Drink lots of water.

I needed to lose weight to TTC my DS and to do so
I walked, skipped (with a skipping rope) hula hooped and once a week my PT came to my house and we doing a boxing based session. He coming to my house meant I had no excuse.

All the best OP on your weight loss journey-  happy.gif

Edited by Leafprincess, 15 January 2013 - 08:25 AM.


#16 strawberrycakes

Posted 15 January 2013 - 08:27 AM

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I would invest in diet but not the conventional diet that is pushed on us but rather removing all grains from your diet & adopting a primal way of eating.

Through my research I honestly believe that it is grains/wheat that are causing all the weight issues in the world.  We humans are not designed to eat grains.  Just check it out & you'll be amazed.

I have been eating primal 80% of the time for the past month & the weight is falling off. In 3 months I have lost 13kg but the last 5kg has been the easiest with absolutley no exercise.  I feel amazing.

IMO I would invest in researching primal eating & buy a few hand weights to use at home.

ETA I have PCOS & since I greatly decreased my grain intake most of my symptoms are going: I no longer get hormonal headaches, I no longer get period pain, my periods are shorter & lighter & the hormonal chin hair grows alot slower.

Edited by strawberrycakes, 15 January 2013 - 08:30 AM.


#17 Reader

Posted 15 January 2013 - 08:31 AM

QUOTE
Stay away from weight watchers as all their food is loaded with sugar  and sodium and really isnt good for you. Its so processed.


Weight Watchers doesn't 'require' you to eat their food though. It's a few years since I did it, but their meal plans were all things you prepared for yourself.

#18 YodaTheWrinkledOne

Posted 15 January 2013 - 09:19 AM

QUOTE (beansidhe @ 15/01/2013, 08:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Stay away from weight watchers as all their food is loaded with sugar and sodium and really isnt good for you. Its so processed.

Well, maybe their packaged stuff is, but I never bought any of their packaged stuff.  You can easily do WW without buying any of their food products.  In my experience, you are encouraged to prepare your own meals from scratch or eat raw/fresh food as much as possible.  Thus taking on responsibility yourself for what you prepare, what you eat.  I was never told I had to eat WW foods, nor was it even mentioned at meetings.

OP, I'd invest in either a eating program where you are accountable for what you eat (eg WW) or some appointments with a dietician/nutritionist to help you meal plan.  As a few PP have said, weight control is more to do with what you eat than how much exercise you do (although it helps).  And whatever changes you make, they have to be sustainable.

Portion control was/is my biggest fault.  And snacking.  If/When I get a good handle on that, it's easy.  

If you don't want to join a program, I'd also suggest MyFitnessPal, which is a website/app that allows you to track your consumption of food during the day.  It's pretty easy to follow, can install an app on your phone to fill it during the day while you are out and about.  You can scan foods in (has an in-built barcode reader), as well as select from the huge range of foods already listed in the database.  Very handy.  And it's free.


#19 T_Baby

Posted 15 January 2013 - 09:23 AM

They're both equally important – invest in a programme which incorporates both. One of the only ones around is Vision PT, I've been going almost 3 years, lost 25 kilos and never been healthier or stronger.
And now that I've just found out I'm pregnant (conceived only 6 weeks after my wedding), it puts me in a much better place for a healthy pregnancy – I cannot recommend them highly enough www.visionpt.com.au


#20 Rachaelxxx

Posted 15 January 2013 - 09:27 AM

I second the people that have said food is 80% of the equation, so that is where I would be putting my money.  I'm the same, I have about 20kgs to lose and I feel awful for it, so once the girls are back at school I will be looking at reducing my calories and possibly incorporating a 30 minute walk in the day somewhere.

#21 MrsLexiK

Posted 15 January 2013 - 10:03 AM

Hi OP, just remember if you don't see instant weightloss due to the PCOS what you are doing (the exercise cutting out certain foods) will still be helping the PCOS.  

I think lite n easy and weightwatchers would not be the best for PCOS becuase alot of women who have it have experienced that when they cut down the carbs and eat low GI and more protein they find the PCOS symptons/issues are helped.  From my experience lite n easy was very carb based (for me)

I joined a gym and saw a PT, about 4 months after joing I joined a challange.  This was metabolic eating (which is alot of protein and veg only consuming carbs/grains after a workout and only using certain carbs/grains ie not white nd preparing most things yourself) and incorporated "free" cardio sessions, cooking lessons/book, along with sticking to 2 - 3 PT sessions (which were weight based) I did see improvements (I changed my body shape and went from not being able to complete 5km run to being able to do the Melbourne 10km and City 2 the sea)   I kept a food diary, which my PT went through too make sure I was on track, had regular weigh ins and measurements.

#22 Charlies Angel

Posted 15 January 2013 - 10:07 AM

As a starting point I would invest in a set of food scales and download My Fitness Pal (free online). Start recording what you are eating now, and you will soon see areas that you can cut back on.

It's so informative. I know a fair bit about food, yet was surprised when I logged the peanut butter on my toasted muffin on Sunday - 200 cals! (would have estimated around 100 cal.). It really helps with decisions, and knowing that you are going to be logging it helps motivate you to making better choices.

Logging your cals, together with regular exercise, is a sure fire way to start on the track to a healthier you.

#23 I*Love*Christmas

Posted 15 January 2013 - 10:16 AM

I would personally spend the money on the food related side. I joined the gym last year and by the personal trainer I was told losing weight is mostly about the food. I guess she was referring to people who join the gym but continue to eat badly and expect weight loss.

#24 Coffeegirl

Posted 15 January 2013 - 10:37 AM

QUOTE (Leafprincess @ 15/01/2013, 09:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I would not do either.

I have PCOS too and seeing a dietician years ago was the best thing I ever did.
Learning to cook & make your own foods specific to your condition is way better than relying on someone else to do it for you. Because unless you have an endless steam of money at the end of the day you will need to do it yourself.

Key points for healthy PCOS eating:
No sugar besides fruit
Whole wheat & grains only - no white pasta, bread etc
Whole foods - hardly eat any processed foods
Include lentils & pulses into your diet (these keep you feeling full too)

I agree with pp that portion control is very important. I eat off an entree plate not a mains plate. I don't do seconds either. Because it takes up to 20 minutes for your body to register you are full. Drink lots of water.

I needed to lose weight to TTC my DS and to do so
I walked, skipped (with a skipping rope) hula hooped and once a week my PT came to my house and we doing a boxing based session. He coming to my house meant I had no excuse.

All the best OP on your weight loss journey-  happy.gif


^^^  This

PCOS is a strange thing and it does weird things to your insulin levels - so you need to work with that.

Fad diets like shakes and removing grains or carbs etc, will not help.  Spend the money on a good nutritionist and increase your exercise.  Even just a 30 minute brisk walk every day will help.




#25 BeccaBoo88

Posted 15 January 2013 - 12:10 PM

I haven't read all replies, so sorry if this doubles up what others have said.

I don't think you need to spend money on either to lose weight. Make healthy decisions when you shop for food and add some exercise to your days by going for walks, or rides or joining a sports team.

My DP is a PT and he told me he won't be spending our money on a gym membership for me before my eating was worked out (I only had a few kgs to shift) and without doing any extra excerise I lost about 10 kilos in a month. That was just eating regular, healthy snacks and nutritious dinners.

In saying that, I have worked at a gym and can see how paying for a gym membership motivates some people to get up and start working out - but others sign up at $20 a week and I never saw them again.

I think at the end of the day it comes down to you. I found writing out my eating plan each week (with some help from the internet) much easier than slogging it out at a gym. I am no good at doing it alone, so a gym would never work for me. Make little changes, stairs not escalators, an apple not a chocolate, park further away at the shops.

Good luck and I hope it all works out for you. original.gif




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