Jump to content

Magic Bullet Please?
For sleeping without a swaddle


19 replies to this topic

#1 Feral_Pooks

Posted 12 January 2013 - 09:33 PM

DS still sleeps in a love to dream swaddle.

He is almost 11 months old.

He is a very "particular" sleeper and though he does sleep well, it is only when very strict conditions are met.

A big, big, big one is his swaddle.

He resisted earlier gentle attempts to release him from it. I bought the wrap where you can take one arm out, then the other. Does. Not. Work.

I tried wrapping him in a sheet and slowly loosening it. No way, Jose, he just busts out and crawls around the cot.

And... He screams. And screams. And screams. You put the wrap back on, and he is asleep within 5 minutes.

Today my darling son was awake from 8am til 4.30pm. He slept for 30 minutes in the car then was up til 8pm. I sh*t you not.

My main reasons for getting him out of the wrap are...
Pressure from others. At least I'm honest about this one.
He is physically outgrowing the largest size one. Doom is pending!
He is one in a month or so. One! I mean... When does it end?? At some point this is going to have to happen.

This kid is a really challenging sleeper in a lot of ways. The only way I could get him to sleep in a cot was by going to sleep school, and I've tried some responsive settling as taught there (when he was just under 6 months old) but it hasn't been very effective, I'm guessing because he is so different developmentally.

I keep thinking... I am screwed. I'm going to have to go back to sleep school to change this. I just have no idea what to do here.

Anyone got a magic bullet for me??

I'm pretty sure I can't keep doing what I am doing, babies need more than 30 minutes of crap sleep in a 12 hour period.

Eta. And he was getting so upset he was gagging to vomit- I picked him up right away and soothed him. Then went for the drive, where he slept a little.

Edited by Pooks_, 12 January 2013 - 09:35 PM.


#2 Guest_divineM_*

Posted 12 January 2013 - 09:50 PM

I released DD from swaddling at just 4 and a bit months... What followed was a week or so of horrible sleep especially naps. I did it while at sleep school for various sleep issues and they had no magic bullet for this. Just told me I had to ride it out. It was avert long week but she adjusted and went back to sleeping as before. I don't know how you settle him now  it could you introduce something else to comfort him- a cot toy,patting ?

#3 Feral_Pooks

Posted 12 January 2013 - 10:00 PM

Thanks divineM. He has his dummy, and I pat him until he is calm and relaxed and leave, returning as necessary.

I was worried someone would say I'd have to endure a tough week or so biggrin.gif but you're probably right.

#4 Liadan

Posted 12 January 2013 - 10:01 PM

I had the same problem with my DD and her need to be swaddled. Have a look at sleepy wings.

It is just a comfort/routine thing, he will eventually grow out of it.

#5 Feral_Pooks

Posted 12 January 2013 - 10:03 PM

QUOTE (Liadan @ 12/01/2013, 11:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I had the same problem with my DD and her need to be swaddled. Have a look at sleepy wings.

It is just a comfort/routine thing, he will eventually grow out of it.


ohmy.gif Awesome!! Thanks!!

#6 tick

Posted 13 January 2013 - 03:56 PM

Peke Moe worked wonders for us.  Transition to Peke Moe was fairly painless whereas all other attempts to do one arm out etc had been a disaster.

#7 Lokum

Posted 13 January 2013 - 04:07 PM

I wouldn't worry that much. DS1 was swaddled until past 10 months and we only stopped because he was ready. I think he wanted to stop because we were o/s and it was so damn hot overnight.
We were using flat cot sheets to swaddle. There are other EBers who have wrapped for heaps longer, like maybe 18 months? Our kid was a mostly great sleeper, provided we followed his lead and met his rules (ie wrap, cuddle to sleep.) if something works now, I'd keep doing it until it doesn't!, for whatever reason.

#8 FizzlingFireboxes

Posted 13 January 2013 - 04:17 PM

We would tuck DS in with a sheet so his arms were held down fairly tightly to begin with, he would eventually wriggle out but to start with he would settle with his arms down.

He also loved being swaddled.

#9 JaneDoe2010

Posted 13 January 2013 - 04:25 PM

QUOTE (Regular Show @ 13/01/2013, 05:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You do know 'Magic Bullet' is the name for something else ??  wink.gif   biggrin.gif  ph34r.gif



QUOTE (Sassy Girl @ 13/01/2013, 05:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
roll2.gif roll2.gif roll2.gif roll2.gif roll2.gif roll2.gif      

I was thinking the exact same thing  dev (6).gif


Me too! I was bitterly disappointed to click on it and find it was in the "Sleeping" section. sad.gif

laugh.gif

#10 Escapin

Posted 13 January 2013 - 04:36 PM

But what else DOES it meeeeeaaaaaan? I feel very left out of the joke now!

And to the OP, I have heard of people swaddling their kids in sheets, so they must have been more than just babies. If it works, i'd just keep doing it. No need to tell everyone either, just carry on.

#11 CourtesanNewton

Posted 13 January 2013 - 04:41 PM

QUOTE
But what else DOES it meeeeeaaaaaan? I feel very left out of the joke now!

Let's just call it a battery operated self soother. For adults.

#12 Marchioness Flea

Posted 13 January 2013 - 04:46 PM

lol redkris!

We all know how important it is to be able to self soothe!

#13 Chelly_M

Posted 13 January 2013 - 05:02 PM

Being wrapped has become a strong sleep association for him, so you will need to teach him how to fall asleep again without it. I imagine it will be very hard to do, but if you persist, he will learn, eventually.
Just an idea ... Have you tried settling him on his tummy, unwrapped? We took our dd to sleep school when she was 12 months (which she failed) but they taught us to settle her on her tummy and pat her nappy loudly and shoosh. Just thinking, he might feel more secure on his tummy, he's old enough now.
However, if it were me, if he sleeps well wrapped and its not doing him any harm, I'd be inclined to leave it for now and try again in a few months, he might be ready then.

#14 2 Gorgeous Girls

Posted 13 January 2013 - 05:11 PM

See now when I hear magic bullet I think of those mini food processors that were on the infomercials for years. And no matter how desperate you are you should not put your child in a food processor.  wink.gif

In terms of the swaddling I eventually had to just to bare the sadness for a few days, but we had a whole host of sleep associations to break.

#15 JaneDoe2010

Posted 13 January 2013 - 05:16 PM

QUOTE (redkris @ 13/01/2013, 05:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Let's just call it a battery operated self soother. For adults.


*snort*

#16 mandala

Posted 13 January 2013 - 05:21 PM

We stopped swaddling relatively late - 8 months - and it was a rough week at the time. It now seems like such a short time, though. I would guess that the transition would take longer for a 12 month old.

We had had a couple of attempts when DS was younger to get rid of his wrap and gave up. We only did it when we absolutely had to - when his sleep was getting worse with the wrap, because he was rolling onto his stomach and getting stuck and upset. That is the only reason I did it. I was quite prepared to be wrapping a two year old in a cot sheet! And if he still needed it when he was 12, and he could figure out how to wrap himself, I was all for that too original.gif

Our approach was to get rid of it one day for all sleeps, and use those sleep school responsive settling techniques.  We also introduced a comfort toy (in his case, a piece of his favourite wrapping sheet).  I wanted to keep as much of the sleep association that I could from the wrap.

The other thing that I took from sleep school was the torso wrap. If DS had had a few goes at trying to settle himself and was still struggling, I'd go in and wrap his torso and legs which was enough to distract him enough to relax. We then used the torso wrap again when DS started crawling and then standing in the cot. Like getting rid of the swaddle/wrap, it took about a week each time for DS to get used to sleeping again.

Have you tried calling the sleep school and asking for their advice? I found they were great when I had questions once I was home again.

Good luck.

#17 kadoodle

Posted 13 January 2013 - 06:01 PM

I swaddled all my kids until they stopped wanting it.  DS2 is 17 months and right now is wrapped in a bunny rug and drinking some boobie milk before I pop him in his cot.  At 4yo, DD2 still wraps her doona around herself like a cocoon to sleep.

Use flat cotton cot sheets as bub gets bigger.  There's little merit to being harsh with a baby.

#18 CupcakeMumma

Posted 13 January 2013 - 07:06 PM

Our last two were wrapped until 18 mths, we just bought wide muslin from spotlight and used that.  I have a pretty good way of wrapping and even now my 9 yo will wrap himself inside his sheet.

#19 melodypond

Posted 13 January 2013 - 07:21 PM

My only suggestion is a boring one - keep him in the wrap just a little bit longer?  Even just 3 - 4 weeks?  I did this with my second and after an attempt at 9 months failed (much the same result as you have found this time) bub transitioned really easily a month later - go figure!

We were using the Love to dream 50 / 50.  

Good luck. Ignore the people who pressure you - I did get sick of the amount of times I was told I was putting my baby in a strait jacket (among other things) - because of course cruelly restraining my baby is my number one desire!  mad.gif


#20 Feral_Pooks

Posted 13 January 2013 - 07:49 PM

I hadn't heard that particular term before... Well, self soothing is the theme here!

Thanks everyone.

I have just been letting it go... Because it works! But people look at me like I have two heads if/when they realise he is still wrapped.

It's nice to know that DS and I aren't the only ones still loving the wraps.

And thanks for all of the tips to help with wrapping an older baby.

original.gif

I guess at some point it will stop!




Reply to this topic



  


1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users

 

Get your FREE Baby & Toddler Show ticket!

Get your free ticket to the Sydney Essential Baby & Toddler Show for September 25-27 - register online now.

A solo birth, a wasp swarm and a forest fire: mum and baby's amazing story of survival

Desperate, out of petrol and low on food, a new mother lit a fire in the hope of attracting attention.

Boy found on swing died of hypothermia and dehydration, autopsy finds

The story was chilling and heartbreaking: a three-year-old boy was found dead in a Southern Maryland park, his mother pushing him on the swing.

Child's play and laughter help battle fatigue

Feeling fatigued? Uh-huh, thought as much. Join the queue.

Dad shares entertaining 'how to hold a baby' clip

For many new dads, their own child is the first baby they have ever held. So one dad has posted an instructive YouTube video titled "How to Hold a Baby".

The Australian baby with 100,000 Facebook fans

She may be only eight months old, but Egypt has already amassed more than 100,000 fans and received a letter from royalty - Hollywood royalty that is.

Public welcome outside church for Princess Charlotte's christening

Duke and Duchess of Cambridge have invited well-wishers to see Princess Charlotte outside church in Sandringham on day of her baptism.

Tongue tie: what you need to know

Tongue and lip tie can lead to many problems for babies - and their parents. Here are the signs of tongue tie and how it's treated.

My daughter is small but that doesn't matter

My daughter may be small, but it's my job as her parent to refocus back where it belongs - on who she is as a person

Wet wipes linked to rise in allergic reactions

The government has issued a health warning after a rise in allergic skin reactions has been linked to a preservative found in some wet wipes.

Gay couple in their 80s first to wed in Dallas after Supreme Court ruling

Love may have won, but it came with quite the wait.

William Tyrrell's family marks birthday with cake and renewed appeal

The family of missing boy William Tyrrell will mark his fourth birthday on Friday making a cake to share with friends and family as NSW police renewed their public appeal for information on his disappearance.

What all parents should know about safe babywearing

A picture of Ryan Reynolds always gets the girls talking, and a recently shared photo has done exactly that - but this time, it's for all the wrong reasons.

Baby's head shape reveals potentially fatal condition

Thinking her baby just had an unusually shaped head, a mother was shocked to discover it was instead linked to a dangerous condition.

'Help - my toddler hits me!'

My toddler has started hitting when he gets frustrated, is feeling ignored, or just thinks it might be fun.

Why IVF success rates may not be what you think

Transparency, accountability and responsibilityare essential measures to protect IVF vulnerable patients.

On the 10th anniversary of my son's death

This day marks a significant day. Today marks 10 years since I lost my son Kai.

Mother-in-law 'from hell' inspires survival guide

The happily ever after Nicola Milan had imagined wasn't to be – and she blames her mother-in-law.

Name your baby Quinoa, win a $10K gift card

Choosing a name for your little bundle of joy is always a major decision. It can be something traditional, trendy, creative … or inspired by the menu of your favourite chain restaurant.

Owning a pair of nail scissors does not make me a hairdresser

It's been a whole year since sleeping in until 10am. A whole year since having a peaceful shower.

The 83 children who were tragically let down in the last decade

Over a 10-year period, 83 children died from domestic violence abuse in NSW, with three quarters of the victims aged five years or under, the NSW Ombudsman has revealed.

Expert Q&A: Gross motor skill development in toddlers and preschoolers

Dr Katie Heathershaw answers questions about jumping, toe walking, riding a bike and being pigeon toed.

Is it reasonable to expect your partner to give up drinking in pregnancy?

From the moment that I fell pregnant with my son, I realised just how much my life had already started to change.

Stroke victim joins class action against makers of popular contraceptive pill

"I was terrified I would always be this way. The pill needs to come with a much higher warning."

Sexy time

Why you should get excited about scheduling sex

Unfortunately, the belief that sex should always be spontaneous is a myth. It just isn't.

When newborn photoshoots get messy

When it comes to newborn photoshoots, it is all about the timing.

Orphaned baby daughter Ayla wakes from coma

Former All Black Jerry Collins' critically injured orphaned daughter has awoken from her coma and is able to bottle-feed.

Dad takes miraculous catch while feeding baby

One American father has taken multitasking to a new level at a Cubs-Dodgers baseball game at Wrigley Field.

'Samuel is our firstborn, and he will never be forgotten'

Having lost their firstborn at one day old, the Carrolls were overjoyed to welcome their daughter Isobel into the world a year later.

Channel 10's Sarah Harris expecting first child

The Studio host Sarah Harris doesn't mind if her first baby is a boy or girl, but she does hope it is born with one thing in particular.

 
Advertisement
 
Advertisement
 
 
 

What's hot on EB

27 funny ultrasound pictures

Ultrasounds give you a look at your growing baby ... and sometimes what appears to their womb-buddy, or your bub in an amusing position.

The top 6 misleading parenting terms

From 'morning sickness' to 'the terrible twos', there are many parenting terms that are misleading.

When 'good' nannies go bad

While most nannies take pride in their work, there can be some who have a hidden side.

Woman hospitalised for skinny jeans injury

Beware: skinny jeans might be bad for your health.

Gauze seeding: the bacteria-breeding birth trend

A number of women having caesarean deliveries are now taking steps to give their baby a better 'microbiome' start in life.

Jimmy Fallon writes new children's book for dads

Jimmy Fallon, host of NBC's The Tonight Show, recently wrote a children's book about every father's secret wish for their baby's first word to be "dada" - not "mama".

28 names for babies born in winter

Looking for some baby name inspiration for a bub born during the colder months? Here are 28 options from around the world to consider.

The horrible act that sparked a brawl at child's birthday party

The uncle of the seven-year-old girl at the centre of the brawl at child's birthday party in Sydney's west has described the events leading up to the alarming show of violence.

Babies 'benefit from iPads at a young age': study

More often than not, you'll read that screen time for children should be kept to a minimum - but some scientists are now challenging this way of thinking.

Do mums really just obsessively talk about their children?

Natalie Reilly describes three main types of conversations mothers have. And, surprise, they're not all about kids.

Why some dogs might attack babies or young kids

A baby's smell, the noises it makes and even its gaze can contribute to the potential for a dog attack.

Mum demands refund for 'beargina' christening cake

It was meant to be a tasteful cake to help celebrate a three-year-old's christening.

5 things no one warns you about after giving birth

How many times have you been warned about all the sleepless nights you have to 'look forward to' when you become a parent?

Police officer sang nursery rhyme as heartbreaking photo was taken

A police officer arrived at a devastating scene on Thursday: a car crash resulting in all passengers being thrown from the vehicle.

Don't worry, working mums: Just leave Dad in charge at home

Want to open the boardroom doors for women? Encourage - heck, praise - dads who stay home with their children.

Hilaria Baldwin shares post-baby selfie

Just two days after giving birth, actor Alec Balwin's wife posted a post-baby picture on social media.

'Help - my child won't ever do what I ask!'

Compliance is part of the parent-child relationship, but so is resistance. It's all natural.

Postnatal depression support gets $23 million boost in NSW

The Baird government will include $22.8 million in Tuesday's NSW budget to expand a program designed to help parents at risk of postnatal depression (PND).

'I'm just as tired, scared and stressed as you': stay-at-home dad's plea

I'm really lucky to have two great kids, but I found it really tough with so much being aimed at the mothers and not the fathers.

 

FREE TICKET

Get your FREE ticket to the Baby & Toddler Show

Get your free ticket to the Sydney Essential Baby & Toddler Show for September 25-27 - register online now.

 
Advertisement
 
 
Essential Baby and Essential Kids is the place to find parenting information and parenting support relating to conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids, maternity, family budgeting, family travel, nutrition and wellbeing, family entertainment, kids entertainment, tips for the family home, child-friendly recipes and parenting. Try our pregnancy due date calculator to determine your due date, or our ovulation calculator to predict ovulation and your fertile period. Our pregnancy week by week guide shows your baby's stages of development. Access our very active mum's discussion groups in the Essential Baby forums or the Essential Kids forums to talk to mums about conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids and parenting lifestyle. Essential Baby also offers a baby names database of more than 22,000 baby names, popular baby names, boys' names, girls' names and baby names advice in our baby names forum. Essential Kids features a range of free printable worksheets for kids from preschool years through to primary school years. For the latest baby clothes, maternity clothes, maternity accessories, toddler products, kids toys and kids clothing, breastfeeding and other parenting resources, check out Essential Baby and Essential Kids.